Booman Tribune

What If McCain Can't Save the GOP?

by BooMan
Thu Dec 20th, 2007 at 11:50:48 PM EST

It's impossible to know whether this story has any legs, but John McCain has lawyered up. And a presidential candidate lawyering up on the eve of the first caucus is certainly a concern.

The Arizona Republican has hired a prominent Washington criminal attorney, Robert Bennett, to deal with the matter. "What is being done to John McCain is an outrage," Bennett said in an interview.

Bennett said he sent prepared answers yesterday to written questions submitted by New York Times reporters who have spent weeks investigating questions about whether the senator did favors for a Washington lobbyist or her clients. She has also retained a lawyer, according to a knowledgeable source who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was discussing legal matters.

There's literally nothing more to the story at the moment. Make of it what you will. I just want to make a few observations.

If John McCain does not emerge as the Republican nominee, there's a good likelihood that the GOP is going to be in for a long, strange ride. Let's walk though this.

If Mike Huckabee wins in Iowa, I expect McCain to surge ahead of Romney in New Hampshire and win that state. This will set up a death match between McCain and Huckabee that will go down to the wire. Giuliani could conceivably get into the mix by winning Florida, but he seems too damaged by recent scandals to have much hope. Fred Thompson will go nowhere.

But if McCain has some bad news in the next three weeks that prevents him from capitalizing on a Huckabee win in Iowa, then Romney will likely prevail in the Granite State. We could easily see McCain, Thompson, and Duncan Hunter drop out after New Hampshire or South Carolina. We could see Giuliani drop out after Florida. And we'll be left with Huckabee, Romney, and Ron Paul. And Ron Paul will have enough money to compete everywhere on Super Duper Tuesday, while Huckabee will not, and Romney will have to spend his own fortune.

Even in this scenario, I do not expect Ron Paul to win the nomination, or even any states (although he could win a couple). But he could easily rack up a fifth of the available delegates in a three-way race. Imagine the Republican convention if Ron Paul has the third biggest block of delegates.

Let's go even further here. Assuming that Romney's delegates are more Mormon than his overall universe of support and that Huckabee's delegates are more Southern Baptist than his overall universe of support, and that Ron Paul's delegates are...well...the most enthusiastic and dedicated of Ron Paul's supporters...the Minneapolis conventions is going to be a assembly of the cultural fringe. It's hard to picture your average Martha's Vineyard Republican fitting in, exactly.

The Democratic competition is no less fluid, but all the candidates are at least culturally acceptable to the whole range of the Democratic electorate. Our convention will be one big inclusive feel-good party no matter who wins the nomination.

I guess my question is: what will it mean for the GOP over the short to medium term if their convention is completely dominated by Huckabee, Romney, and Paul supporters? Will there be fisticuffs between the Paul people and the Romney people on the platform committees? Will the McCain, Giuliani, and Thompson establishment delegates even show up? Or will they stay at home throwing up at the spectacle on their teevees?

And how bizarre could it get? Will mainstream America even recognize the bizarro world being conveyed to them from inside the Metrodome (or wherever they're holding this thing)?

I don't know the answers. But if McCain, Thompson, and Giuliani all get knocked out early, it's going to be strange...and frightening...and it will change the world is some unpredictable way.



Display:
Worst matchup:

McCain v. Clinton.  That's a winner for the GOP.  The media orgasm over McCain and its concomitant trashing of Clinton will be the worst media train wreck since the Bill's impeachment.

Best matchup?

Anyone (other than Clinton) vs. Huckabee

Obama is a Patriot

by Steven D on Fri Dec 21st, 2007 at 09:14:37 AM EST
Cause I don't think the repubs are gonna be salvageable. Nor do I want them to be in the short term.

I use to think that since there had been respectable repubs, even repubs with integrity, that my repub senator had the possibility of remaking himself (Senator Bond).  But now I don't think so.  They have all banded together in some insane group think mode that leaves them totally out of any ability to regain rational thought.

Grandma Jo

by glitterscale (glitteryscale@yahoo.com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2007 at 09:25:46 AM EST
Get your press passes now!

Both of these conventions have the potential to be very interesting.  I agree that there will be a slugfest between Huckabee and whoever wins NH (assuming the Huckster wins Iowa).  Here is to hoping that they take the time to air all of their dirty laundry.

My job is not to represent Washington to you, but to represent you to Washington- Obama
Philly for Obama

by Luam (LuamDK at gmail.com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2007 at 09:51:38 AM EST
I think it boils down to Romney against Huckabee, and I don't see Ron Paul as being a strong factor.  I think the Martha's Vineyard crowd goes for Romney (they didn't seem to mind having him as governor, after all).  I don't think the Mormon thing bothers them a bit, and they'll support him because they think deep down he's a pragmatic businessman (which I think is correct).

If the race is extremely close, there could be a deadlock at the convention if the stray delegates make up the margin of difference, but that's unlikely if the other candidates drop out as early as you speculate.

The Huckabee-Romney choice could be the unraveling of the GOP coalition, although I doubt it.  I think Romney will end up with the nomination, and he will win over the family values crowd.  If Huckabee wins the nomination, it's less likely that the corporate GOP will go along.  I think they get behind a Bloomberg third party ticket.

I don't think Giuliani drops out after Florida.  He's looking at NY and NJ on February 5, and a shot at California as well.  He's in the race until at least then.

If the convention seems like it will end up in a deadlock, I think the party leaders will try to impose a compromise choice, someone who wasn't in the primaries and so would have escaped the bloodletting.  The last thing they want is half of the GOP voters staying home on election day and killing them in the Congressional and state races.  Bill Frist could yet be resurrected.

by JLG on Fri Dec 21st, 2007 at 10:58:07 AM EST
Romney used to be an investment banker. The big money Republicans will support him. They will even rally behind him if the only other choices are Ron Paul and Huckabee.

They will also support McCain. They know from the Savings and Loan scandal that he can be bought and his prostituting himself to Bush proves he hasn't changed his spots.

by The Voice In The Wilderness on Fri Dec 21st, 2007 at 11:28:42 AM EST
[ Parent ]
If the convention seems like it will end up in a deadlock, I think the party leaders will try to impose a compromise choice, someone who wasn't in the primaries and so would have escaped the bloodletting.

Newt.

He has said almost as much.

"You can lead a horticulture but you can't make her think." -- Dorothy Parker, who must've known Jeff Gannon's grandmother

by PDiddie (pdiddie@gmaildotcom) on Fri Dec 21st, 2007 at 06:18:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]


Display:
Go to: [ Booman Tribune Homepage : Top of page : Top of comments ]
Menu
Login
. Make a new account
. Reset password





Find textbooks at Alibris!

NOTE: Overstock bests Amazon's prices and is "blue."

THE BOOKS WITH "BUZZ":
______________

Learn the real story behind the CIA's War on Terror:

The Dark Side: The Inside Story of How the War on Terror Turned Into a War on American Ideals
by Jane Mayer

Read Barack Obama's vision for America:

The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream
by Barack Obama

DaveW recommends:

I Am a Strange Loop
by Douglas Hofstadter

Need some laughs?

I Am America (and So Can You!)
by Stephen Colbert

rae recommends:

Dark Ages America: The Final Phase of Empire
by Morris Berman.

On BooMan’s shelf:

Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln
by Doris Kearns Goodwin

This looks interesting:

Adventure Divas
by Holly Morris

Here’s a good one from
Elizabeth Gilbert:

Eat Pray Love
by Elizabeth Gilbert

"Crash" * Best Motion Picture, Academy Awards * Only $11.79 at Overstock * 2006 SAG Winner, Best Ensemble

Check out
Powell's new section:
NEW FAVORITES

Selected new arrivals at 30% off

Recommended by Indianadem and ejmw:
The Conscience of a Liberal
by Paul Wellstone

From northcountry’s bookshelf:

The New Golden Age:
The Coming Revolution Against
Political Corruption and Economic Chaos
by Ravi Batra

A novel about contractors in Iraq from the woman that runs The Spy That Billed Me:

Outsourced: A Novel
from RJ Hillhouse.


SOTW-120x90
Download Sleeper Cell on iTunes (Better than "24") Download Weeds on iTunes (Hilarious 1/2-hour adult comedy starring Mary-Louise Parker) Download Late Nite with Conan O'Brien on iTunes
John Belushi - SNL
Download South Park on iTunes
Verve Vault

James Hunter - People Gonna Talk:
James Hunter - People Gonna Talk
icon


Great Deals
----- * ^ * -----

Find mystery novels by Nancy Pickard ("Kansas")



Challenging Empire: How People, Governments, and the UN Defy US Power by Phyllis Bennis (interviewed on DN!)


Featured by Keith Olbermann, New (Powell's Sale): Rogue State: A Guide to the World's Only Superpower by William Blum (whose other books merit serious consideration)


"Explosive" State of War: The Secret History of the CIA and the Bush Administration
by James Risen


The book the CIA doesn't want you to read: Jawbreaker: The Attack on Bin Laden and Al Qaeda: A Personal Account by the CIA's Key Field Commander
Larry Johnson's review


BT's all-time best seller:

PERMACULTURE:
A Designers' Manual

$79.95 * Sale: $59.95


Unequal Sisters: A Multicultural Reader in U.S. Women's History (Third Edition)


The Undercover Economist: Exposing Why the Rich Are Rich, the Poor Are Poor And Why You Can Never Buy a Decent Used Car!


The Worst Hard Time: The Untold Story of Those Who Survived the Great American Dust Bowl
by Timothy Egan


Green Press Initiative
----- * ^ * -----


Journalistas: 100 Years of the Best Writing and Reporting by Women Journalists by Eleanor Mills * NYT review


Bury Me Standing: the Gypsies & Their Journey


1491: New Revelations of the Americas before Columbus



Brokeback Mountain
by Annie Proulx
----- * ^ * -----
Check out Powell's
"At The Movies"


Imperial Ambitions: Conversations on the Post-9/11 World by Noam Chomsky (Power & Terror: Post 9-11 Talks)


The Price of Privilege:

How Parental Pressure and
Material Advantage Are Creating a Generation of
Disconnected and Unhappy Kids

by Madeline Levine


Save 35-70% on
name brand clothing,
footwear, and outdoor gear
at SierraTradingPost.com

:





We listened to PEN American Center's "State of Emergency" and found 1940s books by Curzio Malaparte only at Alibris. (Selection (MP3) excerpted from "The Skin.")

Alibris - Books You Thought You'd Never Find
Banned Books * Are you a fan of Film Noir, Art House, Documentaries or Hong Kong Action? * Searching for a long-lost children's book or a first printing of Miles Davis' Kind of Blue on vinyl? Find it at Alibris!

:
:
www.Patagonia.com


Listed on BlogShares

© 2009 Booman Tribune