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The Rationale for Bloomberg

by BooMan
Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 12:03:56 AM EST

Michael Bloomberg is considering an independent run for president and he has found some partners that are encouraging him to run. I have no objection to independent runs for president, but I do wonder about the rationale.

On Sunday, the mayor [Bloomberg] will join Democratic and Republican elder statesmen at the University of Oklahoma in what the conveners are billing as an effort to pressure the major party candidates to renounce partisan gridlock.

Former Senator David L. Boren of Oklahoma, who organized the session with former Senator Sam Nunn, a Democrat of Georgia, suggested in an interview that if the prospective major party nominees failed within two months to formally embrace bipartisanship and address the fundamental challenges facing the nation, “I would be among those who would urge Mr. Bloomberg to very seriously consider running for president as an independent.”

A brief look around the blogosphere shows that many of my fellow bloggers are objecting to the idea that bipartisanship is a virtue. I don't think I need to reiterate those points. What strikes me is the role the administration plays in all of this. It's true that the Republicans in Congress have been a rubber stamp for the administration, but that could begin to change if the Republican nominee has significant policy differences with Bush and Cheney. David Boren wants the leading presidential candidates to embrace bipartisanship and address the fundamental challenges facing the nation but that's awfully difficult to accomplish if the administration is vetoing bipartisan legislation (like the Defense Authorization Bill and S-CHIP) and constantly pushing the envelope on separation of powers issues.

I think the big issues facing the country are the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, instability in Pakistan, the dismal state of Israel-Palestine relations, the federal budget deficit, a host of factors that collectively are battering the middle class, and global warming, energy, and energy independence. It's conceivable that we could come to some bipartisan solutions to these problems, but not without the Republicans changing their tune.

Bush and Cheney won't formally admit that global warming exists and they think 'conservation may be a sign of personal virtue but...not a sufficient basis for a sound, comprehensive energy policy'. They won't consider raising revenues to deal with the deficit. They see nothing wrong with outsourcing American jobs. Their recent initiative on the Israeli-Palestinian question is going nowhere and is insincere in any case. And they readily admit that their Iraq policy is designed to keep us occupying that country for years to come.

In this environment there just isn't a whole lot the Democratic contenders can do to reach out. In fact, it's not at all clear to me what Mr. Bloomberg could do to tackle our big problems that would be different or more successful than what the Democrats have already tried. It's the Republicans that need to make the initial moves. They could pass the energy bill over Bush's objections. Or S-CHIP. Or support a timetable for withdrawal from Iraq.

Needless to say, the major Democratic contenders are not proposing unpopular ideas. The public supports the Democrats' positions and trusts them to handle pretty much every issue they are polled about. What's needed isn't bipartisanship for its own sake. What's needed is either huge Democratic wins that make it possible to govern without Republican support, or for a significant bloc of the GOP to come to Jesus and start working with the Democrats to override Bush's vetoes and force his hand.

Going forward, the next president is going to have to work with a Democratic Congress. Let the GOP come to us. And what can Bloomberg do to change things? I think, nothing.



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1-He can buy the election with his own personal fortune. And then run on an "I am independent of outside influences" ticket. Even though that is a total falsehood. See Tarheel Dem's " the Congressman from Phillips Petroleum" reference above for a part of THAT iceberg that is already protruding above the surface.

2-He can..and will...gentrify the entire country in the way that he has gentrified the poorer (read minority) neighborhoods contiguous to upper upper middle-class Manhattan.

New York Magazine gone national. Gone berserk.

The Sex In The Citying of America.

The Yuppie Era redux.

Gordon Gecko to the rescue.

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Bet on it.

A smarter, cleaner Giuliani.

Real estate money is scared shitless about the economic climate here. So are the banking interests that are ready to tank due to a bad housing/lending/mortgage market. he would support a massive fix in that department.

3-He can...and will...support Israel. Both the DemRats and the RatPubs are inching away from that. Bloomberg got elected in NYC on the Jewish vote. Here come the AIPAC supporters from both sides. MORE money, more media.

4-He can counter Obama if Obama indeed seems about to get the nomination. Bloomberg is Jewish. There are large parts of the power structure that would be MUCH more comfortable with a Jewish front man who is friendly to their aims...and bet on it, Bloomberg in the Mayor From Wall Street...than they would be with a blackish/Barakish candidate who has already publicly redressed the executives of Detroit for having failed to make auotomobiles that can compete with Asian products.

Remember...Bloomberg made his fortune selling information to Wall Street. He has earned the trust of the management. So of course has Hillary Clinton earned that trust. But if she falters and it is evident that whatever front man the Ratpubs put up is doomed from the get-go because of the unblelievably massive, ongoing fuckup that we laughingly refer to as the Bush Administration (Or...a really threatening, loose cannon-type Rat candidate emerges like Paul or Huckabee) , then in rides the Mayor on a white horse to save the day. the real big monery establishment ion Am,erica is white, protestant and deeply anti-Semitic on very deep levels. But given a choice of allowing a Jew or an African American to join their giant country club and perhaps even have some power over its affairs...? Well, YOU know the answer to THAT one.

Watch.

Hillary wins, no Bloomberg.

Obama wins...or that outside shot, Edwards...here comes da MAYOR!!!

Bet on it.

AG

Goodness had nothing to do with it, dearie.-Mae West

by Arthur Gilroy (arthurgilroy<at>earthlink.net) on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 07:35:45 AM EST
Bloomberg cannot operate as a politician except inside a police state.  The NYC Mayor is a strong mayor form of government.  The mayor essentially sets the budget and assigns priorities and the city council affects those priorities very little.  The NYC mayor has almost no checks-and-balances set against the office.  In essence, the NYC mayor is a dictator within NYC with a large military arm available to enforce diktats.

If you don't believe that, just look at what Bloomberg did during the 2004 Republican Convention.  He had his police force regularly round up potential demonstrators and then hold them illegally under terrible conditions for long periods of time.  Violent criminals were held for shorter periods than potential political demonstrators during the convention.  Worse, Bloomberg had had the NYPD violate the civil rights of political groups by conducting clandestine investigations before the convention to determine who to arrest preemptively.    If this doesn't define a police state, I don't know what does.  He ran NYC just like the Wizard ran OZ from the play "Wicked".  Hmmmm....life reflects art?

Bloomberg would have no better success as chief executive governing the US than Ventura did Minnesota.  He has no constituency.  He will have no mandate.  He will secure little trust from either party in the Congress.  If we want a caudillo, then let's be honest and admit it.  At least we'll be going down the road to  Third World Banana Republic with our eyes open on that basis.

by VizierVic (VizierVic@hotmail.com) on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 08:11:42 AM EST
I think it's a shot across the bow of the wingnuts and neocons who have highjacked the Republican party.  All of the so-called partisan gridlock -- all of it -- is coming from that side.  Reid and Pelosi and a lot of Democrats are trying to work across the aisle to deal with a whole host of problems that real and serious and urgent.  That's why so many of us are either angry or disappointed or both with them.  And all of the Republicans currently in power, or almost all of them, are giving the Democrats and us and the world a big finger.  They aren't the least bit interested in actually dealing with anyone.  They are dogs in the manger.  If they can't have their schizo agenda, then they're not going to allow any agenda.

I've said before, if Bloomberg gets in the race, the Republican coalition will fracture like an overheated plate.  The corporatists and the real Republicans, the old money and the big money and the real conservatives, who have been held hostage all this time, will bolt to Bloomberg.  The theocons and the neocons will ride their twenty some percent right into the ground, taking the Republican brand with them.  I think that is a fitting and proper outcome.

Then the real race will be between corporatism and the rest of us, between Bloomberg and our Democrat.  Which is the way it should be.  We'd probably loose some independents, even some Democrats, but the real question would be whether our government exists to serve the people or the corporations.  I'm not at all sure what the outcome would be, but it's a race I would really like to fight and win if we can.  

Have I mentioned I like Edwards?

Have I ever told you about my poor memory?

by ignorant bystander on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 08:27:58 AM EST
your last sentence sums it up! NOTHING!
 Just what we need! Another rich dabbler. I guess be is getting bored.
Anyhow- hang on Boo, the ride is just starting!
A happy NY to you!
by billjpa (billjpa@aol.com) on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 08:56:05 AM EST
Well, you're right: change absolutely nothing! You presumably take that to be a put-down, criticism. His backers instead would more likely see it as a compliment, recommendation. Such levels of cynicism and narcissism have become national viruses, epidemics. See Glenn Greenwald today in salon.com on Mr. Bloomberg, his game and character. Simply the way he conflates the well-being of New York (City) with Israel's and that of Israel with New York's is enough to make him unsuited to the office of U.S. president. Such bigotry is abhorrent. And that's what it is: bigotry! And that is what might be called partisanship in other contexts. Furthermore he has turned New York City into a gated community for the rich. It has become more boring than any hole in the suburbs.
by Quentin on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 09:52:06 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Correction: I meant to say 'He has helped to turn Manhattan into a gated community for the rich.'
by Quentin on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 10:08:24 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Bipartisanship is, as the folks back home used to say, a blivet -- ten pounds of manure stuffed into a five pound sack.

People only call for bipartisanship when their party is being blocked by the other party. No one calls for bipartisanship when their party is running roughshod over the other party. Calling for bipartisanship is essentially calling for the opposition to capitulate. There's nothing wrong with that -- everyone wants to get their way, after all -- but covering it in a thick layer of bipartisan bullshit is objectionable.

I don't want my representatives working with Republicans. I want them working to bury conservatism in the dustheap of history.

---Cthulhu for President: Why vote for the lesser evil?

by eodell (eodell at naqada dot org) on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 09:43:12 AM EST
"Going forward, the next president is going to have to work with a Democratic Congress. Let the GOP come to us. And what can Bloomberg do to change things? I think, nothing."

Disagree. Just look at the current offerings:

1. Aptly reviewed by Steve Clemons. I wager, most Americans will say spot on:

"Despite all of the drama of this campaign process, when I think this through, I can very easily constrain my enthusiasm for any of the candidates."

2. What's coming in 2008, as smart money sees it, is the tip of the iceberg - those fWMDs (financial weapons of mass destruction)- fWMDs that were exported by the USA and now impacting global finance. So much so, USA big banksters are being rescued by sovereign wealth funds - from Asia to the Middle East.

On the weekend Gordon Brown warned Brits 2008 will be bleak, "prepare for turbulence to come'" "The global credit problem that started in America is now the most immediate challenge for every economy."

The U. S. financial debacle ahead is expected to last 3-4 years. In August 2006 Nouriel Roubini warned we were facing - the worst housing recession in 50 years- in some areas 1 in 60 homes under foreclosure.
It does not take rocket science to conclude that the housing crisis compounded by $100/b oil and rising food prices will be the No: 1 issue that will aid a Bloomberg-Hagel ticket.  

Americans see little difference between the repub liars and impotent demrats. The ranks of 'Independents' looms large.

Booman, sometimes in life all it takes is one man to destroy or rebuild.  

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 09:53:22 AM EST
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Chancellor of the Exchequer didn't leave his department in a great shape. Besides the UK has followed the US administration in it's financial mismanagement and easy credit, causing housing prices to rise astronomically and now just waiting for the crash and crunch of mortgages on the public.

Brown tells Britain to prepare for 'global financial turbulence' in 2008. 'Our strong economy is the foundation,' Brown writes in his new year message.

Brown's sober analysis comes in the wake of the autumn credit crunch that caused the first run on a British bank in more than a century after the Bank of England bailed out Northern Rock. The sight of thousands of depositors queuing outside branches across Britain to withdraw their savings was one of the factors that contributed to the dramatic fall in Brown's ratings in the autumn.

Pound Falls to Record Low Versus Euro as U.K. House Prices Drop

Asian, Mideast funds unleash cultural revolution on Wall St.

WASHINGTON7 (AFP) Dec. 24, 2007 - State-run investment funds from Asia and the Middle East are unleashing a cultural revolution on Wall Street, buying up big stakes in ailing US banks, but the deals are also raising national security fears.

Merrill Lynch announced Monday that Temasek Holdings Pte. Ltd., a Singapore state-owned investment group, was buying a 4.4-billion-dollar shareholding in the company.

The deal follows hot on the heels of Morgan Stanley's announcement last week that the China Investment Corporation (CIC) had obtained a five-billion-dollar stake in the firm.

...
Beijing's financial firepower has been swelled by over one trillion dollars of foreign currency reserves while the energy-rich UAE's coffers have been fattened by rocketing oil prices.

"The most obvious consideration is national security," Robert Kimmitt, the deputy US Treasury secretary, wrote in the latest edition of Foreign Affairs , a high brow journal published by the Council on Foreign Relations and read by elite policymakers.

"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."

by Oui on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 11:48:53 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Sorry I can not buy into..We do this for the Country..BS.  Mike seems to be joined at the hip with people like Henry K.  I don't think he has saving my America in mind.
by MEP on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 10:40:37 AM EST
Since when does he have a dog in this race?  Why step down from on high after 10 or so years of being above the fray to make threats against the party?  I'm from OK (and OU) and thought I knew DB better than that...

The Wages of Sin is about $5.15 an Hour
by hz on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 04:35:50 AM EST
My take.  Corporate America fears that even if Hillary Clinton wins there will be enough progressive momentum in Congress to begin to affect them.

And Boren?  The only thing that makes sense to me is that he always was the Congressman from Phillips Petroleum.  And Nunn?  Mistakes the neo-con vision of foreign affairs for the Scoop Jackson military vision of the 1970s and 1980s.

But really afraid that GA and OK will be the only states that vote Republican and do so in a way that almost kills the Democratic Party in those states.  The spokespeople for the frightened enablers of the stealing of the Senate seat from Max Cleland, engineered by a clueless Democratic Secretary of State.

50 states, 210 media market, 435 Congressional Districts, 3080 counties, 192,480 precincts

by TarheelDem on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 06:36:50 AM EST
Keeping in mind that Bloomberg is a closet NY Democrat who changed parties, like Bill and Hillary CLinton changed clothes in order to pander to Republican ideas and enhance their electability, he is not going to affect the Republican candidate, but could affect the Democratic one in the general election.

With the country still split down the middle, Bloomberg could be the spoiler a la the Nader effect for the Democrats, again, in those critical states like Florida and Ohio.

by shergald on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 09:08:13 AM EST
Well, therein lays the timing that Bloomberg may be optimizing. In order to succeed, he would have to capitalize on a single item resume - he's a non party candidate. So he waits for the Rep's to throw up their collective hands that there is no one to save their souls from Hillary's occupation and in frustration they'll cast their lot with the guy who has a bumper sticker resume, limited exposure of being under the national microscope, a clean candidate...the perfectly defensible vote for Rep voters who feel raw & bleeding from their own choices and want OUT. Of course he's far from clean but with so much trash to read about the existing Rep candidates, who will have the time or energy left to get to know Mike?

by mainsailset on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 11:15:12 AM EST
(D) Edwards
(R) Huckabee
(I) Bloomberg

Bloomberg siphons the country club Republicans away from the religious zealot Republicans.

Wall Street's Dream Election
(D) Clinton
(R) Romney
(I) Bloomberg

Heads they win, Tails they win, On-Edge they still win.

by The Voice In The Wilderness on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 03:38:09 PM EST


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