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A Tale of the Tapes

by gadfly
Sun Dec 9th, 2007 at 03:47:18 AM EST

Gadfly is Marty Aussenberg, a columnist for the alternative weekly Memphis Flyer. Marty is an attorney in private practice in Memphis, Tennessee.

I don't understand the scandal that's arisen over the destruction by the CIA of the tapes it made of interrogations. I mean, isn't this SOP for the Bush administration, and, indeed, its Republican forebears? Isn't that what the Bushies did with millions of e-mails that disappeared from the White House's servers, as well as with (and about) billions of dollars in Iraq that have disappeared into the ether (a/k/a Halliburton). And, isn't that the way Papa Bush (and Reagan before him) handled the coverup of the Iran-Contra scandal?

It's obvious what happened here. The CIA (and others for whom it was apparently acting as a proxy) was faced with the choice of the least of several evils: risk having the tapes come out, with the resulting blowback from the Muslim world the likes of which hasn't been seen since Abu Ghraib, or destroy the evidence and throw yourself on the mercy of the courts (and the public) by saying (as the director of the CIA has) “hey, there was nothing illegal in the tapes,” or, “we did it to protect our agents,” or some other such nonsense. Risk having anyone who participated in “enhanced interrogation” (read: torture) prosecuted, both domestically and as a war criminal (with the tapes being “Exhibit A”), versus risk pissing off a few senators, congressmen and federal judges about the destruction of evidence (read: obstruction of justice). The choice seems pretty obvious, if you're a Bush acolyte.

More after the jump

Remember what happened when the images of Abu Ghraib were released to the public? The Bushies weren't going to let that happen again. So, this was obviously a cost/benefit analysis that was performed by the CIA, probably with the complicity of the Pentagon (which authorized "enhanced interrogation"), and arguably with the knowledge of the White House (now that it's come out that the President's counsel, Harriet Miers, knew about the tapes), and the determination was made that the consequences of destroying the tapes were far less damaging than the consequences of having them come out.

If Republicans learned any of the lessons of Watergate, it was that (a) that tapes can easily be destroyed, erased or altered (e.g., the Rosemary Woods 18½ minute gap), and (b) that if you don't destroy, erase or alter tapes, they can be used to impeach and/or prosecute you (e.g., the Butterfield taping system in the Nixon White House). The conventional wisdom about the Watergate tapes, which eventually did Nixon in, was that if he had destroyed them before they came to light, he might have been able to withstand (or avoid altogether) impeachment, since they were the most damning evidence of his criminality. So, why not destroy evidence of war crimes?

Part of the cost/benefit analysis done in reaching the decision to destroy the tapes was the likelihood that, just as happened with Abu Ghraib, only the low-level flunkies would ever be held accountable for their destruction, and for the mayhem they recorded. We're already seeing that, with the finger being pointed at a single, now-retired CIA official. The Republicans have learned how easy it is to hoodwink the public, not to mention the Congress and the judicial system, into believing that anything they or their minions do, is only the responsibility of the dupes who've done it, not anyone who was responsible for the policy that allowed it to happen. That's how everyone in the chain of command at Abu Ghraib avoided their accountability moment.

In the case of these tapes, can there be any doubt that the the folks who authorized the "enhanced interrogation techniques," including Rumsfeld, his deputy, Steve Cambone, David Addington (now Cheney's consigliere), Alberto Gonzales and, last but not least, John Yoo, would have been at risk for criminal prosecution if the graphic result of their authorization had ever come to light? And since no one has admitted to waterboarding (except for the accusations of its victims), and there is no independent evidence of its having been practiced, the people responsible for implementing the policy that allowed it look like they might skate.

And, of course, despite the flurry of demands by members of Congress that the tapes' destruction be investigated, Congress won't do anything, at least not anything meaningful. Oh sure, there will be some "show hearings," but nothing will come of them because Congress (read: the Democrats) is a paper tiger. Hasn't it proved that by its failure, despite a lot of table-thumping, to hold in contempt any of the witnesses who've evaded its subpoenas, something it clearly has the power to do. It's never done its own investigation of how or why we invaded Iraq (we're still waiting--for two years now---for the Senate Intelligence Committee to release the second part of its report on that issue), Abu Ghraib, the many remaining unanswered questions about 9/11, or the entire Katrina debacle, has it? It still hasn't found out who was responsible for the billions of dollars that went astray in Iraq, and it still hasn't begun to hold Bush and Cheney accountable for all the things (illegal wiretapping, rendition, etc.) we already know they did that warrant accountability (read: impeachment).

And getting the Justice Department to investigate the tapes' destruction would be another example of asking the fox to investigate a break-in at the hen house. The new attorney general, Michael Mukasey, judging from his confirmation hearings, in addition to having an obvious dilemma about whether or not waterboarding (which is apparently shown on the destroyed tapes) is torture, was actively involved, as a judge, with aspects of the detention of suspected terrorists whose lawyers were either denied access to the tapes or told they didn't exist. And, most importantly, the techniques which are undoubtedly demonstrated on the tapes were facilitated by the justice department itself. Remember, it was people like John Yoo, and (now, circuit court judge) Jay Bybee who, when they were part of DOJ's Office of Legal Counsel, issued opinions that sanctioned torture. That is the legal authority the new CIA director, Michael Hayden, was relying on when he told his employees, just before the story of the tapes' destruction broke in the New York Times, that the techniques recorded in the tapes were "legal."

So, the Congress obviously isn't going to (or at least, not effectively) investigate the tapes' destruction, and the justice department can't investigate it (or shouldn't, on conflict of interest grounds). So who does that leave to investigate it. A Special Counsel, maybe, like Patrick Fitzgerald, who couldn't even nail the obvious malefactors in the Plamegate scandal, settling for the minor (relative to the treason that was committed) charges that were brought against Scooter Libby? And, of course, Congress has little stomach left for Special Counsels. The Democrats remember all too clearly the excesses of Ken Starr, and the Republicans are still fuming from what they consider the excesses of Patrick Fitzgerald. No, I doubt a special counsel will be appointed.

The only thing that will happen as a result of the destruction of the tapes will be sanctions imposed by the courts where terrorist prosecutions are pending against the government's lawyers for lying about the existence of the tapes. And it is possible that one of those sanctions may end up being the dismissal of one or more of those prosecutions. Big deal. Other than that, I expect no one will be prosecuted for what is an obvious obstruction of justice (except maybe the poor schnook, Rodriguez). Nor will they be prosecuted for authorizing the techniques that were apparently graphically displayed on the destroyed tapes. Hey (to paraphrase), no foul, no harm.

So, while the guy they're pointing the finger at for authorizing the destruction may go down for the count, if the past is prologue, we can expect this most recent example of Republican cover ups to be covered up, once again.

Update [2007-12-9 5:2:8 by gadfly]: The Washington Post reportsthat members of Congress (including Nancy Pelosi) were briefed about waterboarding as far back as 2002, and not only didn't object to it, but encouraged it. If this is true, it represents yet another reason Congress will do nothing meaningful about the recent revelation about the destruction of tapes that may reveal waterboarding.



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Who knew and when is the key to the spineless capitulation that has been going on in Washington for the past year. There are many (including DiFi and Pelosi) who simply don't want the investigations to get too serious or too persistent.

That's why impeachment (the process in the House, not the endgame) is so important--Because even Scalia (in an old Clinton opinion) says it precludes executive privilege. And that's why it's "off the table." Because if that table were set, it would serve up a lot of embarrassment and perhaps even successful challenges to existing senior Democrates.

But we simply can't tolerate it!

Michaela

by michaelmt (MrMichael_t@yahoo.com) on Sun Dec 9th, 2007 at 06:55:57 AM EST
not just embarrassment: they may be exposed to prosecution for war crimes.

This is what the GOP has on the Democrats, and it has nothing to do with tapping their phones via "the program the president authorized" as AGAG used to say.

It is that, as Ben Franklin said "we must hang together or surely we will hang separately". The Democrat Party took impeachment off the table because THEY ARE IN ON THE CRIME.  And like all organized crime, there is the code of omerta, silence.

John Mccain Called his wife WHAT??

by brendan on Sun Dec 9th, 2007 at 09:08:12 AM EST
[ Parent ]
You are right that we cannot tolerate it, but what actions are we going to take.  If the Washington Post is correct, Pelosi should  be pressured to step down as Speaker -- at the very least.

If you want things to get better, be prepared to deal with change.
by Kahli on Sun Dec 9th, 2007 at 09:42:44 AM EST
[ Parent ]
"Individual lawmakers' recollections of the early briefings varied dramatically, but officials present during the meetings described the reaction as mostly quiet acquiescence, if not outright support. "Among those being briefed, there was a pretty full understanding of what the CIA was doing," said Goss, who chaired the House intelligence committee from 1997 to 2004 and then served as CIA director from 2004 to 2006. "And the reaction in the room was not just approval, but encouragement.""
[snip]
"In fairness, the environment was different then because we were closer to Sept. 11 and people were still in a panic," said one U.S. official present during the early briefings. "But there was no objecting, no hand-wringing. The attitude was, 'We don't care what you do to those guys as long as you get the information you need to protect the American people.' "

delightful.  what a wonderful speaker we have, and how fitting for the DemocRAT Party.

John Mccain Called his wife WHAT??

by brendan on Sun Dec 9th, 2007 at 09:04:10 AM EST
So lets see. Habeus is gone. The president lies or disregards anything that he doesn't like. The house of representatives does not represent. The senate no longer permits the actual act of a fillibuster. The potential voters are methodically being struck from the voter rolls. The method of counting the vote has been totally corrupted.
  Yup, thats it. I'm done.There is no reason to vote any longer. I think that that is the answer. DON'T VOTE! Boycot the vote! Might as well try that.

 

by billjpa (billjpa@aol.com) on Sun Dec 9th, 2007 at 07:26:03 AM EST
As despicable as what the Dems' acquiescence may have been, how it was explained and who knew what (and remember, it's in Goss' and other BushCo folks' interest to share the blame) remember that there is a difference between the killer and the brother who doesn't turn him in. As bad as the Pelosis and Harmons are, and how they are willing to sell out our constitutional protections, they aren't as bad as BushCo.

Here's my question: Whenever there's a big mall massacre to pull the anti-gun crowd away from the news, and the beans are spilled on torture videos in the same week, is one for the purpose of deflecting attention on the other, are both to deflect attention from something far bigger, or what? After all, if these guys getting tortured had guns, they could have shot the people who were trying to torture them.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sun Dec 9th, 2007 at 11:34:36 AM EST
I think saying the mall massacre was pre-arranged is a bit of a stretch, but I certainly think that someone in DC was capable of saying "let's take advantage of the diversion to leak something embarrassing that's about to come out anyway."

And it's that "about to come out anyway" that interests me - first the intelligence estimate on Iran, now this - are the career folks in various government agencies deciding to spill the beans on everyone who was a party to the crimes (before the next administration comes to town to "close the book" by hanging various career officials out to dry)?  What will we be seeing next?  Time to pop some popcorn...

Ecological collapse is already happening. Your resentment of the word doesn't change the fact that it is occurring.

by Knoxville Progressive (green_planet_2000 (at) yahoo (dot) com) on Sun Dec 9th, 2007 at 01:53:07 PM EST
[ Parent ]
We are in an era when moral pygmies call the shots -- I've got maybe twenty years of life left and I do not think ANYTHING will get better... environment (shot to hell thanks to our addiction to stuff and overpopulation), economy (regressing to the 'Gilded Age' of non-union workplace slavery), race relations (this explosion is yet to come), international relations (we're gonna get our butt KICKED somewhere, somehow).  

The tapes are just the latest wiggle of the worm.  Means nothing beyond a way to fill broadcasting time between murders of pretty white girls by dark-skinned sex maniacs.

by John Brown (ruptured_duck@notmail.com) on Sun Dec 9th, 2007 at 12:53:10 PM EST

I have been thinking about this on and off all day.

One other point that was mentioned in the article was that when Congress was briefed, they weren't allowed to take notes or consult with staff or experts.

So if you were attending such a meeting, how much would you know ahead of time about waterboarding?  Back in 2002, I would say probably next to nothing, so ultimately your opinions at the time of the meeting would be based upon whatever information is being spoon fed to you by the people doing the briefing, which is certainly going to present the technique in a manner to make it seem perfectly lawful, and I am willing to bet that there were no dissenting views presented to suggest that the techniques would be regarded by some as torture.

Once this meeting adjourns, you would have the ability to consult with others about how waterboarding is regarded in the international community.  But then again, you were sworn to secrecy, so merely asking the questions of others could be seen as a violation of secrecy.

Then again, maybe I am simply trying too hard to find a way to excuse the behavior of Congress.  It gets harder and harder as the days go by...

by ericy on Sun Dec 9th, 2007 at 01:46:10 PM EST


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