Yeah, but...

What if Bush and his handlers are not Republicans?

Not really.

What if they do not give a shit about "Republicans"?

OR Democrats?

What if their entire game is being played on another level?

What if they WANT a constitutional crisis?

Or...what if their real game is to collapse the government and society of the U.S. completely? Paving the way for true government by corporation.

Government of, by and for the dollar.

The only power left standing.

What then?

These lower level congressmen leave the Oval Office, and there sit Rove, Cheney and the rest, laughing their asses off at the ongoing success of their plans.

From Ron Suskind's 2004 NY Times article Without a Doubt

What if their current "new reality" is almost totally unthinkable to those who still live within the box of American history. Of Civics 101 as it is taught to us all in school.

What then, bubbas?

What then?

If you look at the actions that they have taken...from the Clinton honeytrap and the audacious theft of the 2000 election right on through to today...with the idea in mind that they have been engaged in trying to END the government and society of the United States as it has stood for a couple of centuries, then and ONLY then do their actions make sense. The only other possible explanation is total incompetence, and if that is the case then they are strangely selective in their incompetencies, because when it has suited their purposes...especially politically...they have suddenly turned exceptionally competent.

Reptoids out to destroy our society and enslave us?

Republitoids.

Satan's slaves, out fishing for souls?

Representatives of hostile foreign governments?

Worse...representatives of a NEW form of "government", multi-national corporations.

Corprocracy.

These makes more sense than any OTHER set of explanations, once you look clearly at their actions.

Ye shall know them by their fruits.

Hmmmmmm....

Later...

AG

Goodness had nothing to do with it, dearie.-Mae West

If there is anyone out there that believes for one single second that that liar in the wh is telling anything but another lie, they are either pulling a rip van winkle or is one of the miniscule coolade drinkers that follow the Liar.
 And, to believe that porker biased slob on nbc makes it another joke. "he doesn't want to leave this horror to the next pres"- my ass! That is exactly what his plan is. Every single action coming from the wh is backed by an overall plan to enhance the historic place of the piece of garbage and is also based on the overall plan of the neos that direct the stooge.
 WOW! I do sound angry! AND GUESS WHAT-I AM!
 

Aravosis is reporting that the Blue Dogs are gonna cave tomorrow.

I think maybe we've been punked.

"If Adolph Hitler flew in today, they'd send a limousine anyway" -- Joe Strummer

Our National Media. Timmeh, the "Most Respected Journalist in America", and this is what we get. It sounds like a report on Paris Hilton's in camera arguments. Or maybe what took place in the Ladies Room in London when Lindsay Lohan was snorting up.
Is ther any meat left in this stale-ass faux hamburger?

"Coach Leary, walking on water wasn't built in a day" -Kerouac

No "Leadership" involved?

"It's significant that these are rank and file Republicans. They went around the leadership to talk to the President "

So what is John "Suntan Johnny" Boehner?

Not buying it, especially from NBC.
You know what I'm waiting for.  Reality

M. Defarge

The only anti-Illuminati candidate!
They own all the other Manchurians!

Do you think the congressman who said his district is ready for defeat was referring to his own election rather than the occupation of Iraq?

Doesn't information itself have a liberal bias? Steven Colbert

Mark Kirk a moderate?  Oh, yeah.  That's his line for the two months before each election. His district is largely white and largely rich and very rich. Still, there is a strong liberal contingent there.  He has been master tightrope walker.  Poor baby, must really be feeling the heat.

If you want things to get better, be prepared to deal with change.

they told the President that he has no more credibility and that any news about Iraq must not come from the White House, but directly from General Petraeus

This is unadulterated BS.  No active military person can go before the public and go against orders (likely hidden)from the White house.  To do so would be against the code.  This is also true for anyone in the executive branch, but the penalties for violation are not as potentially draconian.  

Actually many have been looking to the media for blaming-allowing the current propaganda blitz under this administration, but I believe a good whistle-blower law which included the military and all branches of civilian government would work better!

So they're figuring out that people don't buy it when McCaine and others go on their little photo-ops (accompanied by enough troops and attack 'copters) to prove the surge is working.... so they think that if Patraeus instead of Tony Snow or the Shrub recites the current talking points, it will be enough?  Though I think it was significant that they went and also that someone on the Republican side obviously "leaked" this to the media.

My biggest qualm is that the reason Cheney is there to tell them "don't go on vacation" has more to do with the fact that it appears that the nationalist factions of the Iraqi parliment are putting their collective feet down and refusing to ratify the much-desired hydrocarbon law. On Tuesday, they sent a collective petition, signed by 144 out of 275 MPs, calling for the US to set a timetable for withdrawal from Iraq. This didn't even make a peep in the MSM here, but could have triggered Cheney's surprise visit.

What is clear is that while the U.S. Congress dickers over timelines and benchmarks, Baghdad faces a major political showdown of its own. The major schism in Iraqi politics is not between Sunni and Shia or supporters of the Iraqi government and "anti-government forces," nor is it a clash of "moderates" against "radicals"; the defining battle for Iraq at the political level today is between nationalists trying to hold the Iraqi state together and separatists backed, so far, by the United States and Britain.

The continuing occupation of Iraq and the allocation of Iraq's resources -- especially its massive oil and natural gas deposits -- are the defining issues that now separate an increasingly restless bloc of nationalists in the Iraqi parliament from the administration of Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, whose government is dominated by Shiite, Sunni and Kurdish separatists.

By "separatists," we mean groups who oppose a unified Iraq with a strong central government; key figures like Maliki of the Dawa party, Shia leader Abdul Aziz Al-Hakeem of the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq ("SCIRI"), Vice President Tariq Al-Hashimi of the Sunni Islamic Party, President Jalal Talabani -- a Kurd -- and Masoud Barzani, president of the Kurdish Autonomous Region, favor partitioning Iraq into three autonomous regions with strong local governments and a weak central administration in Baghdad. (The partition plan is also favored by several congressional Democrats, notably Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware.)

At stake -- the hydrocarbon law, the one "benchmark" it appears both Republicans and Democrats seem to agree is of paramount importance for the Iraqi government to meet... and the one that will screw them over the most for the next three decades, at least. And there are a lot of Iraqis who are very aware of that, and are willing to resist it, despite all the persuasions the Bush admin. (or its local hit squads) can present.

When Bush said "as they stand up, we'll stand down..." I'm sure this is not the kind of standing up he had in mind -- a weak, divided Iraq, unable to resist the plundering of its gas and oil resources is what they have wanted all along.

So this will be interesting to watch for the next few weeks.... The civil war in Iraq has never really been about religious sects, it's been about the balance of political power and control of those oil and gas resources.  So if the Iraqi parliment stands  up, and votes to ask the US forces to set a timetable and LEAVE.... will we stand down?

Keith Olbermann speaks for me.