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Marty Peretz on Scooter Libby

by BooMan
Fri Jul 6th, 2007 at 09:51:05 AM EST

In 1996, when Richard Perle, Douglas Feith and others advised Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu...

Israel can shape its strategic environment, in cooperation with Turkey and Jordan, by weakening, containing, and even rolling back Syria. This effort can focus on removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq — an important Israeli strategic objective in its own right — as a means of foiling Syria’s regional ambitions.

...they had an intellectual framework to justify their belief that toppling Saddam was an important Israeli strategic objective. But it turns out that they were wrong. If you listen to Richard Perle today, he'll tell you that he never advised us to occupy Iraq, just to get rid of Saddam and leave. The problem is, we didn't do that. Yet, there were many prominent Jewish-Americans that were fully supportive of Perle's plans to invade Iraq and many of them are equally pensive about the outcome. Chief among these early cheerleaders were Sen. Joseph Lieberman, who continues to threaten to leave the Democratic caucus, and the editor of The New Republic, Marty Peretz. Look at what Peretz has to say about the Scooter Libby case:

It was from the beginning a politically motivated case, as Dershowitz argues in this morning's Post, the appointment of the special prosecutor, the prosecutor's own obsessions, the case itself with the doubtful and understandably doubtful but diverse memories of many witnesses, including the defendant, the especially harsh sentence pronounced by the judge, the refusal of the appellate court to continue Libby on bail -- all of these were politically motivated. And, thus, in and of themselves, unjust.

This analysis is so detached from reality that it has people as disparate as Andrew Sullivan and Steve Benen scratching their heads. But it isn't all that complicated. Peretz doesn't see the war in Iraq in terms of Republican vs. Democrat. When he says opposition to Libby is political he means opposition to Perle's plan is political. The Republican Attorney General, Deputy Attorney General, prosecutor, judge, and those Republican appellate judges...they weren't on board. But Scooter Libby was on board. When the CIA, and the generals, and the State Department were opposing Perle's plan, it was Cheney and Libby and Rumsfeld and Feith that ignored them and got the job done.

What else can Peretz actually mean? What other interpretation even makes sense?

Let me put it to you this way. The New Republic is a Democratic newsmonthly. Scooter Libby was Dick Cheney's hatchet man. Why would The New Republic feel a strong affinity for Scooter Libby? Why would they consider opposition to Scooter Libby's crimes as political opposition to The New Republic? There can only be one answer. The answer is gratitude and, along with gratitude, loyalty. But this loyalty is confused and untenable. Let's just look at the reasoning of Richard Perle.

RFE/RL: Do you have any regret, remorse, about your advocacy of going into Iraq and what's happened in the wake of that invasion?

Perle: I have great remorse about some of the things that have followed, but I don't think the things I regret were inevitable. I believe it was right to bring down Saddam Hussein's regime. I wish we had then turned things over to the Iraqis immediately. They can build a country. We can't. We could remove an obstacle, but we can't build the structure. So that's my regret, that we didn't do that. But if you go back and look at what we knew, what we believed -- not everything we believed was true or correct -- but if you look at the information we had then, the decision to manage the risk that Saddam could do grievous harm to us was the right decision.

We went into Iraq in the belief that Saddam [Hussein] posed a threat to the United States. We didn't go into Iraq to bring democracy to the Iraqis. Once we were in Iraq, once Saddam was gone, we had an obligation and a responsibility to try to leave the best possible future for the Iraqis and to encourage the development of democratic institutions. And Iraq happens to be a country with a sizable Shi'ite majority and no great tradition of appreciating minority rights. So it's difficult. But the motive was certainly not democracy per se.

There is an internal logic error in Perle's reasoning. How can we simultaneously 'turn... things over to the Iraqis immediately' and 'ha[ve] an obligation and a responsibility to try to leave the best possible future for the Iraqis and to encourage the development of democratic institutions'?

It's this internal logic error that doomed the Iraq enterprise and also what proves that removing Saddam was not 'an important Israeli strategic objective in its own right.' Perle makes the point that destroys his rationale.

Iraq happens to be a country with a sizable Shi'ite majority and no great tradition of appreciating minority rights.

Bingo. Israel has struggled to combat Iranian influence in Lebanon and the occupied territories ever since the 1979 revolution. Their relations with their Sunni neighbors (Syria excepted) have been comparatively good. Ironically, the Clean Break report Perle supplied to Netanyahu made this point, and even went further.

King Hussein may have ideas for Israel in bringing its Lebanon problem under control. The predominantly Shia population of southern Lebanon has been tied for centuries to the Shia leadership in Najf [ed note: Najaf], Iraq rather than Iran. Were the Hashemites to control Iraq, they could use their influence over Najf to help Israel wean the south Lebanese Shia away from Hizballah, Iran, and Syria. Shia retain strong ties to the Hashemites: the Shia venerate foremost the Prophet’s family, the direct descendants of which — and in whose veins the blood of the Prophet flows — is King Hussein.

Who runs Najaf today? Answer: Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, born in Mashhad, Iran. So, first, the Americans did not set up a Hashemite [Sunni] to run Iraq. Second, al-Sistani probably has closer relations with Hizballah than even the Iranians. And, third, whatever reverence al-Sistani might have for the King of Jordan's bloodlines, it isn't translating into support for Israel or for a Sunni dominated Iraq.

The people that supported the invasion of Iraq because they thought it would accomplish 'an important Israeli strategic objective' were basing their analysis on wishful thinking and also without insisting on the minimum conditions that would make their analysis functional. After all, a Shi'a dominated Iraq was not contemplated in the Clean Break strategy. That meant, obviously, that democracy was not contemplated.

And who is ultimately responsible for the strategic decisions that led to a Shi'a majority if not the Office of the Vice-President (OVP)? If anyone screwed up the plan it was the OVP. Even if the decision to democratize Iraq was ultimately a decision made over the objections of Dick Cheney and Scooter Libby (who wanted to impose Ahmed Chalabi), they launched the campaign without assurances that the Shi'a would not be left in control. Even here, Chalabi is a Shi'ite, if not a particularly religious one.

No matter how you slice it, the disaster in Iraq must be laid at the feet of the OVP. And, yet, we see this incredibly misplaced loyalty from so many that fell for Perle's plan.

This is not a criticism of Israel. It's a criticism of people that continue to make bad and misguided decisions about what actually serves Israel's strategic interests.

Their position now seems to be that Israel needs America to stay in place to prevent the situation from spiraling out of control. But this is still a mistake. The weaker America becomes the more the people will begin to question our broader objectives in the Middle East, the worse our relationships will be with our Sunni allies, and the result will be greater insecurity for Israel.



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One of your very best posts.

One tiny dissent, TNR has not been a Democratic publication since Peretz took over. Peretz published Charles Murray and a bunch of other racists. He has always been a troll.

He also played a huge role in sinking the Clinton health plan.

by AliceDem on Fri Jul 6th, 2007 at 10:31:45 AM EST
thanks.

TNR has been an important outlet for ideas within the Democratic Party, particularly when Clinton/Gore were in power.  They are still Gore's biggest backers.  So, I know what you're saying, but their trollishness is selective.

by BooMan on Fri Jul 6th, 2007 at 10:50:25 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Lieberman will not let up.
by BooMan on Fri Jul 6th, 2007 at 11:08:42 AM EST
Joe officially became BatShit Crazy after stating that Iran has declared war on the US. What else is there to say about him....

'Poverty is the worst form of violence'--Gandhi
by chocolate ink on Fri Jul 6th, 2007 at 05:05:53 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The weaker America becomes the more the people will begin to question our broader objectives in the Middle East, the worse our relationships will be with our Sunni allies, and the result will be greater insecurity for Israel.

At this point the cows are out of the barn and the US, Israel, and the Sunni-dominated countries in the Middle East need to accomodate the rising power of 'the Shiites', whether in Iraq, Iran, or Lebanon. The U.S. continuing to play the "our Sunni allies" fantasy game only creates more misery and insecurity for all parties in the Middle East.

And Shiites are no more or less a threat to Israel than are Sunnis. Basically, Israel's security will be more or less secure depending on whether it decides to withdraw from the occupied territories, not on whether it allies with Sunni or Shiite regimes.

For example, in the case of Lebanon, a 'weaker' -- i.e.?, less belligerent -- America and Israel might allow the sub-nationalist group Hezbollah to consolidate its Shia power share within the Lebanese political system. Nasrallah, Hezbollah's leader, is fully on board with a multi-confessional Lebanon. This would create a more stable and representative Lebanon, and would not threaten Israel's security. What does threaten Israel's security is the support of Hezbollah, a Shia group, for the struggle of the Palestinians, by and large Sunnis. And the solution for that, one that really enhances Israeli security, is justice for the Palestinians.

Finally, at this point everyone knows the objectives of the US in the Middle East, to grab its oil and advance Israel's security interests (apparently as Israel's government sees them). So, not to worry on that point, there are any naive Middle Easterners left over who may "begin to question."

I'm important, and everyone else is too. G.K. Chesterton

by fairleft (fairleft(at)yahoo.com) on Fri Jul 6th, 2007 at 11:28:52 AM EST
Now that the Neocons have had another of their insane tactics literally blow up in their faces, (their program of providing funding for Sunni extremist gangs inside Lebanon to serve as a bulwark against Hezbollah), we can all look for them to go on the attack again. The Anti-Syria rhetoric being spun in relation to Lebanon has already morphed into a more aggressive posture again, and I won't be the least bit surprised if a new effort at provocation aimed at Syria is undertaken before the year is out. Then, using the outrage created by this provocation as a pretext, the neocons will ratchet up the pressure to attack Iran.

I fully believe this is the neocons primary quest to be fulfilled before Cheney & Co leave office. And I'm sure Peretz and his ilk at TNR would approve.

Denial is our most dangerous adversary.

by sbj on Fri Jul 6th, 2007 at 12:07:34 PM EST
For those who wish to insert the presence of the US in the politics or other interests of the Middle East, continuing unrest and violence serves those purposes and gives a raison d'etre for continuing the police state we are imposing.

None dare call it 'democracy'.

by hmbnancy (hmbnancy@comcast.net) on Fri Jul 6th, 2007 at 03:27:40 PM EST
Without nit- wonk- picking everything past and current in our FUBAR condition, let me be the first on this thread to say..F** Israel. I have no sympathy for them any more. I am tired of Israel, I have Jew and Israel fatigue. I am tired of seeing my country turned into a larger version of an Israeli state eaten up with paranioa, greed and us,us,us, me,me,me revenge/control upon the world...under the pitful Orwellian "guise" of 'security".

I am personally declaring war on all the orgs and individuals, Israelis, neos, empire builders, their minons within and without congress, who have worked so hard to pervert to their own use what was once America into something unrecognizable to Americans.

by calypso on Fri Jul 6th, 2007 at 03:56:33 PM EST
take it easy man.  'Jew fatigue'?  That's demented.
by BooMan on Fri Jul 6th, 2007 at 04:25:09 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I am demented?

Well let me introduce you to one of my favorite Jewish writers who coined the phase.."Jew and Israel fatigue" and who I borrowed it from.

http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/06/glenn-greenwald.html

I guess he's demented too.

I will check back when and if we end up in Iran and see what your definition of demented is then.

by calypso on Sun Jul 8th, 2007 at 01:34:10 PM EST
[ Parent ]
that piece says nothing of the kind.
by BooMan on Sun Jul 8th, 2007 at 01:40:11 PM EST
[ Parent ]

A much-needed perpective on the "Israel Lobby" --
http://www.merip.org/mer/mer243/plitnick_toensing.html
by priscianus jr on Sun Jul 8th, 2007 at 06:51:02 AM EST


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