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I Know We Are, But What are They?

by BooMan
Mon Aug 13th, 2007 at 04:56:29 PM EST

If you want to know why the Democrats are caving on FISA, refusing to invoke inherent contempt, and are not ending the war, look no further than Stan Greenberg's latest poll results (.pdf). Simply put, the Dems are sailing with the wind at their back and they feel little need to take risks.

Right now, the Democrats enjoy an average lead of 12 points in the generic presidential race (51 to 39 percent) and 9 points in the named congressional ballot (51 to 42 percent). But let us point to some of the trends underneath that make 2008 look like a very big election.

• The Democrats’ lead in both the Presidential and Congressional races is undiminished in the ‘core’ group of the most likely voters. Usually, the Republicans cut some of the margin on Election Day because of turnout patterns, but that is not likely in 2008.

• Education – one of the best predictors of vote over the past decade – is losing its power, with both well-educated and blue collar voters moving to the Democrats. In the Congressional ballot, for example, the high school educated give the Democrat an 11-point lead, dropping to 10 points among those with some high school and 8 points among the college educated. In short, the rush to be done with the Republicans is turning America a little classless.

• The ‘opinion elite’ in the country – those with a college education and earning more than $75,000 – are supporting the Democratic presidential candidate by 11 points (52 to 41 percent). The elites are apparently fed up with the state of the country under George Bush.

• While the Democratic Presidential candidate is winning the Kerry counties by a two-toone margin, the Republican candidate is only winning the Bush counties by 1 point (46 to 45 percent). The Republican nominee will struggle to come back in the battleground states. Just as important, a lot of Republican incumbents will be running in supposedly ‘red’ districts and states, but find them evenly divided. The Republican Presidential candidate is barely ahead among white rural voters (48 to 41 percent).

The Democratic Presidential candidate is carrying those with family members serving in Iraq by almost the same margin as for voters overall, 50 to 43 percent. Democratic Congressional candidates who have been prominently trying to change Iraq policy have an even larger lead, 53 to 42 percent.

• The Democratic Presidential candidate is carrying all Catholics by 18 points and white Catholics by 13 (51 to 38 percent). This would represent a major change in political direction. In fact, the Democrat is running marginally ahead among white Catholics who attend Church every week.

• The big difference in the race is independents: Presidentially, Democrats are ahead by 19 points; Congressionally, by 14 points. It is the crash with independents more than Republican defections that is driving the Republican vote down.

• The Democrats are getting landslide margins with voters under 30; they are even winning whites under 30 by 14 points.

• Instead of losing younger white non-college men by 19 points as in 2004, the Democratic Presidential candidate now is losing them by only 2.

• Union voters have not in recent decades been as solid for the Democrats as now. In fact, Democrats are winning white union households by two-to-one.

• One of the key blocs of ‘swing’ voters is married women. They are breaking marginally for the Democrats this year after swinging strongly for the Republicans in 2004. White married women are breaking even in the Presidential, and Congressionally, the Republican candidate is ahead by only 4 points.

• One of the key blocs of ‘base’ voters for Democrats is unmarried women – who could comprise a quarter of the electorate. The Democrats are winning them by two to one; they are winning white unmarried women by over 20 points.

The big question is why the Republicans are staying the course. Are they freaking nuts? Don't answer that question.



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On this subject, check out today's Tom tomorrow cartoon. It's bound to be a classic.
by RandyH on Mon Aug 13th, 2007 at 05:13:11 PM EST
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Karl Rove, who will still believe him?

Rove to Leave White House at End of August

(NPR) - Rove also told the Journal that he believed Mr. Bush would bounce back from historically low public opinion polls, saying Bush would move up from about a 30 percent approval rating to 40 percent, and "higher than Congress."

He predicted Iraq would be "a better place" as the surge continues and that the Democrats would nominate Hillary Clinton for the presidency, a candidate he called "tough, tenacious, fatally flawed." He also said he believes Republicans have a very good chance of winning the White House again in 2008.

 

"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."

by Oui on Mon Aug 13th, 2007 at 05:13:35 PM EST
Good numbers if you are a Dem, but might I point out no one is getting elected this month/year. With GW at the helm, who knows what can transpire between now and election day to make the Dems "lead" disappear. Iran? N. Korea? Another 9/11 type event? With the corporate control of the media, what is up today could just as easily be down tomorrow. If any one party can screw up a good thing, it is what passes for the Democratic party today. Someparty take my vote, please!

We need to push for Progressive change, now more than ever.
by keepinon (jaukkuri@sbcglobal.net) on Mon Aug 13th, 2007 at 06:04:58 PM EST
A 12-point generic lead, and yet Dem presidential frontrunners are statistically tied with the GOP frontrunner. Something wrong here. Dems were just as confident right before Reagan took the lead in The Destruction of America, Part 1.

Supposed leads based on anger at the other side, rather than Dem accomplishments, can evaporate over a weekend.

FDR's response to progressive demands: "I agree. Now go out and make me do it."

by DaveW on Mon Aug 13th, 2007 at 06:17:45 PM EST
Let's see if I have this correct: before Jan. '07, the Dems caved because they were in the minority in both Houses - after Jan. '07, they caved because "[they] are sailing with the wind at their back and they feel little need to take risks."

Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music. (George Carlin)
by tampopo on Mon Aug 13th, 2007 at 06:25:22 PM EST
That's about the size of it. Either they say they have to be cautious because they're too weak, or they say they can't take risks because they're too strong.

It's an interesting dilemma. Reminds me of a wise saying:

"I'm an innovator. I'm always looking for new ways to waste time."

Please don't read my blog!

by Winter Patriot (Winter Patriot at Gmail dot com) on Mon Aug 13th, 2007 at 07:47:36 PM EST
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