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Bushies Want Another 9/11

by Steven D
Tue Sep 4th, 2007 at 11:53:00 AM EST

Who would want another massive terrorist attack on US soil? The Bush administration, that's who.

They can't wait for another one, because that means they could scare us into giving them everything their little black hearts desire. Don't take my word for it. Take the word of former Department of Justice staffer Jack Goldsmith, whose book about his time at the DoJ exposes the control freak behind the head control freak in the Bush administration, Vice President President Cheney. It's Cheney's current Chief of Staff (and former counsel) David Addington, the head of the spear in Cheney's unitary executive takeover of the government (via TPMMuckraker):

Goldsmith delves even further in establishing Addington as a relentless legal force for unbridled executive authority. Take the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. Since 9/11, the court has rejected only four requests for surveillance in the U.S., about as many as it's rejected in its entire 30-year existence. Yet for Addington, the court's requirements for niceties like probable cause represented an unacceptable hindrance, putting the country at risk of devastation.

“We’re one bomb away from getting rid of that obnoxious [FISA] court,” Goldsmith recalls Addington telling him in February 2004.

From Goldsmith's description, Addington can be reasonably said to consider the machinery of republican government to be a strategic asset of al-Qaeda. If the FISA Court was a meddlesome institution that needed scaling back, an impertinent bureaucrat like Goldsmith was vastly more irksome, representing as he did a mere executive appendage like the Justice Department. Addington would rebuke Goldsmith with stunning phrases like this one:

"The president has already decided that terrorists do not receive Geneva Convention protections,” Addington replied angrily, according to Goldsmith. “You cannot question his decision.”

Addington comes across as a Himmler in waiting, does he not? And yes, I know I'm breaking Godwin's law. Big whoop. Some people deserve being compared to the Nazis, considering they are responsible for illegal aggressive wars that have killed hundreds of thousands, made millions homeless, and have eliminated many of our cherished legal and constitutional protections by executive fiat. Just imagine a fanatic like Addington as Attorney General. He'd make Abu Gonzales look like a piker.



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In retrospect, of course, we find none of this information Goldsmith supplies to be at all surprising.

What surprised me, and still boggles my mind to this day, was echoed today by Glenn Greenwald.

Perhaps most infuriating is the fact that, as it turns out, violating these laws in secret was not even necessary -- because Congress was, and still is, more than happy to legalize whatever they wanted to do. Almost immediately after the Supreme Court finally imposed some mild limitations on the President's detention and interrogation powers -- first in Hamdi, then in Hamdan -- Congress, as Goldsmith says, "promptly passed a law that gave him everything he asked for, authorizing many aspects of the military commissions that the Supreme Court had struck down."

Given the actual and rhetorical record of those in the administration who have salivated for this for so long, we certainly cannot be surprised.

But for those on whom rely to be a "check and balance" for the prevention of rampant executive power grabbing, it is truly, truly disturbing that we had such complacent capitulation to the administration's fear-mongering.  And, unfortunately, this tactic is still found by this administration to be an effective tool against the Democratic majority.  Capitulation continues to this day.

"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity"

by MikeInOhio on Tue Sep 4th, 2007 at 12:38:31 PM EST
I guess Gen. Franks knew what he was talking about.

Gen. Tommy Franks says that if the United States is hit with a weapon of mass destruction that inflicts large casualties, the Constitution will likely be discarded in favor of a military form of government.

Franks, who successfully led the U.S. military operation to liberate Iraq, expressed his worries in an extensive interview he gave to the men's lifestyle magazine Cigar Aficionado.

In the magazine's December edition, the former commander of the military's Central Command warned that if terrorists succeeded in using a weapon of mass destruction (WMD) against the U.S. or one of our allies, it would likely have catastrophic consequences for our cherished republican form of government.

Discussing the hypothetical dangers posed to the U.S. in the wake of Sept. 11, Franks said that "the worst thing that could happen" is if terrorists acquire and then use a biological, chemical or nuclear weapon that inflicts heavy casualties.

If that happens, Franks said, "... the Western world, the free world, loses what it cherishes most, and that is freedom and liberty we've seen for a couple of hundred years in this grand experiment that we call democracy."

Franks then offered "in a practical sense" what he thinks would happen in the aftermath of such an attack.

"It means the potential of a weapon of mass destruction and a terrorist, massive, casualty-producing event somewhere in the Western world - it may be in the United States of America - that causes our population to question our own Constitution and to begin to militarize our country in order to avoid a repeat of another mass, casualty-producing event. Which in fact, then begins to unravel the fabric of our Constitution. Two steps, very, very important."

Franks didn't speculate about how soon such an event might take place.

by BooMan on Tue Sep 4th, 2007 at 01:03:52 PM EST
Franks didn't speculate about how soon such an event might take place.
Barring a significant effort to undo the worldwide damage wrought over the last six years, along with getting serious about addressing terrorism beyond randomly invading countries with no significant involvement in terrorist activities, it would not surprise me to see this scenario played out in the next 20-25 years.

Maybe that's being too cynical but when I see how far we have fallen in such a short time it brings out the most dreadful fears imaginable.

"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity"

by MikeInOhio on Tue Sep 4th, 2007 at 01:26:35 PM EST
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l disagree that these statements, made in 2003 [Addington] and 2004 [Franks], can be pointed to as indicative of the prevailing attitude today. l find it extremely difficult to fathom why or how they'd come to the conclusion that another nine one one style attack would be to their benefit at this juncture. lt may have been effective at achieving their goals in 2004, chimpy was, after all, re-elected, but things have changed considerably since those heady days at the beginning of the GWoT. A super-majority of the country has turned on the Iraq misadventure, and impeachment of both chimpy and darth are increasingly preferred by nearly a majority of those polled...in fact, more than 50% for darth.

Given their braggadocio about how they've prevented another similar attack, and their insistence that it is precisely the infringements upon the liberties and constitutional rights that have allowed that to take place. l would posit, that another major catastrophe at this stage would be the final nail in this administrations', and by extension the gop's, coffin. At least l'd like to hope that would be the case.

Even though l have doubts that the somnolent masses would revolt under the yoke of such an overt venture, it seems unlikely that it would be readily accepted, and it's not easy to see how 330 million people could be forcefully subjugated without massive violence and upheaval.

Although l am reminded of H.L. Mencken's quote: Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.

lTMF'sA




the revolution will not be televised...

by dada on Tue Sep 4th, 2007 at 01:47:27 PM EST
terrorism will always favor the power of the state.  Always.  It used to be that the right in this country was against the use of federal power, but those days are long past.  Another 9/11 type of attack would favor the state first and those that advocate for more state power second.  It would do nothing for those of us that have been saying the threat of terrorism is exaggerated.  
by BooMan on Tue Sep 4th, 2007 at 01:53:35 PM EST
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That's my thinking also.  "We're fighting them over there so we won't have to fight them here" might then ring a tad hollow to even that simplistic 30% of the country that still buys into this bullshit prez.
by Second Nature (denn1214 at gmail) on Tue Sep 4th, 2007 at 01:58:12 PM EST
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Given their braggadocio about how they've prevented another similar attack, and their insistence that it is precisely the infringements upon the liberties and constitutional rights that have allowed that to take place.
 I think anyone voicing of this viewpoint after another attack would be squashed like a bug.
Even though l have doubts that the somnolent masses would revolt under the yoke of such an overt venture, it seems unlikely that it would be readily accepted, and it's not easy to see how 330 million people could be forcefully subjugated without massive violence and upheaval.
You don't have to subjugate 330 million people. You only need to focus on the ones who won't submit to the supreme authority of the state.  What I glimpsed in the run-up to and the early days of the Iraq invasion and occupation scared the shit out of me.  I thought the whole misadventure was a colossal mistake from the beginning.  Does everyone remember what it was like to be a vocal opponent of what the government was doing at that time?  And this was just around friends, family and co-workers.  You were looked at as a freaking nut case, traitor and a threat to democracy.

Imagine, if you will, that expressing that thought is now against the law.  And a large percentage that 330 million people might just report you to the government.  And don't forget, Guantanamo is still in business.

It is not unreasonable to contemplate that scenario.

"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity"

by MikeInOhio on Tue Sep 4th, 2007 at 02:16:28 PM EST
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4 years ago, l would have been more inclined to agree with you; today, not so much. l'm as jaded and cynical as anyone, but l cannot, will not, buy into this scenario. lt would require too great a leap in logic, and a complete abandonment of my core beliefs to do so.

l remember those times, and l also remember the 60's and 70's... Vietnam. Believe me, it was a hell of a lot worse then in terms of being considered a traitorous hippy, and a threat to the homeland, as well as being hazardous to your health.

The point l would make is that the conditions we have today are not the same that were prevalent in 2002 -2004, and are in fact, nearly the polar opposite. Another attack would be viewed as a complete and utter failure on the part of the administration.

These clowns can't subdue a country roughly the size of California with approx. 25 miliion people, using the most destructive and high tech military in the world...how the fuck are they going to pull off subduing this one? lt's the old "we had to destroy it to save it"  BS, and destroying it would be required. There're aren't enough cells in Gitmo or Halliburton's camps to hold every one, and presumably the military would have to go along with the idea...which, again in my opinion, is highly unlikely.

l weary of contemplating worse scenarios than what already exist. How about we work a little harder to change things, instead of dragging up old quotes in an effort to do what?...instill some more fear? That's BushCo's™ job, not mine.

Nobody said it would be easy.

lTMF'sA




the revolution will not be televised...

by dada on Tue Sep 4th, 2007 at 03:28:43 PM EST
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about the same time as habeas corpus.  And before the Magna Carta.  

You can talk about it now.  

A false flag operation is on the way.  Another Reichstag fire.  Soon I fear.  Next month?  Within a year.  

The Fates are kind.

by Gaianne on Tue Sep 4th, 2007 at 08:03:34 PM EST


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