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Iowa Caucus Thread

by BooMan
Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 07:34:49 PM EST

In 2000 and 2004 I watched caucus coverage on C-SPAN and they picked a random caucus to focus on all night. I anticipate that they'll do the same thing tonight.

Update [2008-1-3 20:42:35 by BooMan]: My sources on the ground say that turnout is MASSIVE (up 25%-50%) and that Obama is strong. Could be a major blowout coming.

Update [2008-1-3 20:51:8 by BooMan]:
Senator John Edwards : 33.25%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 32.19%
Senator Barack Obama : 31.93%
Governor Bill Richardson : 1.79%
Senator Joe Biden : 0.71%
Senator Chris Dodd : 0.08%
Uncommitted : 0.04%
Precincts Reporting: 415 of 1781

Update [2008-1-3 20:58:45 by BooMan]:
Senator Barack Obama : 32.70%
Senator John Edwards : 32.38%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 32.02%
Governor Bill Richardson : 1.79%
Senator Joe Biden : 0.96%
Senator Chris Dodd : 0.09%
Uncommitted : 0.06%
Precincts Reporting: 530 of 1781

Update [2008-1-3 21:34:50 by BooMan]:
Senator Barack Obama : 36.27%
Senator John Edwards : 30.48%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 30.25%
Governor Bill Richardson : 1.93%
Senator Joe Biden : 0.94%
Uncommitted : 0.09%
Senator Chris Dodd : 0.03%
Precincts Reporting: 1422 of 1781



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It looks like they're going to use 3 different sites.
by BooMan on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 05:45:21 PM EST
Probably head over to the pizza shop next to the Obama field office here in NH to watch around 8 PM or so.
by PsiFighter37 on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 06:26:23 PM EST
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These folks picked the winner in both Republican and Democratic caucus since 1980.

"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."

by Oui on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 06:43:21 PM EST
C-Span junkie here. They will do a live Democratic caucus starting at 7 PM Eastern on C-Span1. They will do a Republican caucus live on C-Span2 also at 7PM Eastern.

Those times are Eastern but it will be 6PM in Iowa, 4:00 Pacific. And this includes a 1/2 hour pre-show. They do the actual caucus at 7:30 ET, 6:30 Iowa, 4:30 Pacific. They have allocated several hours for it. I assume they'll do viewer calls before and after. And it wouldn't surprise me if they re-run it overnight.

by RandyH on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 06:43:42 PM EST
I had to turn away from CSPAN simply because I can get better video from my cellphone.  Maybe I'll go back, as I have MSNBC on right now and I've don't nothing but yell at Matthews for the last 15 minutes.  And I have brochitis right now, so this can't last all night.

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by fabooj (fabooj [at} mail [dot} com) on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 07:42:27 PM EST
anyone watching this shit?
by BooMan on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 08:22:25 PM EST
This is a fucked up way to pick a candidate.
by Ed J on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 08:33:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]
kind of cool in a way though.
by BooMan on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 08:41:07 PM EST
[ Parent ]
What stark differences between the parties. The Republicans do a prayer and nationalistic musical tributes. The Democrats wander around like confused sheep bumping into each other. It's hard to follow the dems because no one knows how to speak into a microphone.

This is a messed up way to do anything.

by RandyH on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 08:41:21 PM EST
too true.
by BooMan on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 08:44:46 PM EST
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The Republicans are doing a very organized meeting (Hitler would be proud.)  A representative from each candidate is making a speech and then I guess they vote. They don't break up and redistribute based on viability though.
by RandyH on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 08:57:52 PM EST
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LOL...It's pretty bad, huh?  I still can't accept that this is the way to go.  I can't wait for the day that every state has it's primary on the same day.  Screw this caucus stuff.

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by fabooj (fabooj [at} mail [dot} com) on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 09:16:30 PM EST
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Someone compared it to a giant game of dodgeball in something I read today. I think I agree. And it's like children picking teams. No one wants to be the last one picked or to be on one of the loser teams. Ugh.

It is interesting to watch though.

by RandyH on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 08:46:54 PM EST
I'm not watching, but just tuned into CNN (no C-SPAN) for a minute and saw that Clinton is at 34%, Edwards and Obama at 33%.

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by Teacher Toni (tacoralatyahoodotcom) on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 08:50:52 PM EST
I'll tell ya if these two win, that means the Populist message is the unifying one in the country.  I know it's early, about 23% reporting but I'm getting my hopes up at this point.

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by Robert Oak (roak <symbol> noslaves period com) on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 08:52:28 PM EST
Obama's been in second place for the past few minutes:

Senator John Edwards : 32.52%
Senator Barack Obama : 32.43%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 32.22%
Governor Bill Richardson : 1.85%
Senator Joe Biden : 0.81%
Senator Chris Dodd : 0.09%
Uncommitted : 0.07%
Precincts Reporting: 513 of 1781

(Percentages are State Delegate Equivalents.)

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 08:55:04 PM EST
jesus fuck that's a tight race.

John Mccain Called his wife WHAT??
by brendan on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 08:55:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]
You can watch the numbers at http://www.iowacaucusresults.com/

Here's a county map too:

And Obama just took the lead!

Senator Barack Obama : 32.70%
Senator John Edwards : 32.38%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 32.02%
Governor Bill Richardson : 1.79%
Senator Joe Biden : 0.96%
Senator Chris Dodd : 0.09%
Uncommitted : 0.06%
Precincts Reporting: 530 of 1781

(Percentages are State Delegate Equivalents.)


"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 08:56:06 PM EST
[ Parent ]
In the dem sample on C-Span Obama and Edwards came in close together vote-wise. Clinton was way behind.

Delegates: Obama got 3. Edwards got 2 and Clinton got 1.

by RandyH on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 09:00:32 PM EST
as much about him as they say about Iowans.
by Ed J on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 09:11:56 PM EST
I'm very disappointed in Dodd's numbers. I was kind of backing him and really wanted to see a strong showing here.  

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by fabooj (fabooj [at} mail [dot} com) on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 09:18:19 PM EST
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CNN and MSNBC are calling for the Huckster.  

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by fabooj (fabooj [at} mail [dot} com) on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 09:18:59 PM EST
by RandyH on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 09:28:56 PM EST
by RandyH on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 09:29:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]
CNN projects Obama.
by Second Nature (denn1214 at gmail) on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 09:29:20 PM EST
Huckabee wins, Repug heads explode.

Oh, there you are, Perry. -Phineas -SLB-
by boran2 (blogistan@yahoo.com) on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 09:57:34 PM EST
all those in favor of Obama starting to travel in an open touring car say aye!!!!!
 Pretty scary stuff.
Oh, lets all not forget who is now running the huckster's national campaign! That true american- r.ailes!
 NH could be alot more fun now!
by billjpa (billjpa@aol.com) on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 10:05:45 PM EST
Watching Brian Williams and Tim Russert on MSNBC right now. Timmmaay looks like he really needs a drink.
by RandyH on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 10:06:17 PM EST
Brian Williams looks like he might have to throw up.
by BooMan on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 10:09:36 PM EST
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Here's an interesting fact: Ron Paul, while way down on the list, has 3 times as many votes as Giuliani.

And Hillary is declaring victory... for Democrats, anyway.

by RandyH on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 10:27:21 PM EST


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