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People Need to Tone it Down

by BooMan
Sun Oct 12th, 2008 at 05:37:42 PM EST

I understand the sentiment, but signs don't vote:

PORTLAND, Ore. - Authorities have arrested two men after a Molotov cocktail was thrown at a 4-foot by 8-foot campaign sign for Republican presidential candidate John McCain in a southeast Portland yard.
Karen Scrutton said she was asleep inside her home at 7956 S.E. 17th Ave. in the Sellwood neighborhood when she saw her sign go up in flames after 1 a.m.
"I screamed upstairs to my husband, 'Jean! Jean!" she said.
A neighbor heard a crash and chased off one of the suspects. Jean Scrutton said his son-in-law found another suspect not far away.
Not long after, investigators picked up Leslie Brockette Leudtke and Kevin Carl Robinson, both 23. After interviewing them, the pair was charged with four counts each of manufacturing and possession of a destructive device. In addition, Leudtke was charged with a single count of reckless burning.

Passions are running a little too high for comfort right now.

People Need to Tone it Down | 14 comments (14 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

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I noticed in the Clinton/Biden crowd this afternoon that there was some booing about McCain and Biden stopped it and said that they had to respect McCain's service. People did stop and actually clapped for McCain. Classy

by mainsailset on Sun Oct 12th, 2008 at 06:27:58 PM EST

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If you say so. Myself, I don't see what there is to respect. But the show must go on, and I'm sure Biden scored points.

Bush is "the first President to admit to an impeachable offense." --Former Nixon counsel John Dean

by DaveW on Sun Oct 12th, 2008 at 06:33:11 PM EST
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Come on! What would you rather Biden had done, alienate supporters and voters by joining McPalin in the gutter?

by Hurria (Muslawia@gmail.com) on Sun Oct 12th, 2008 at 06:59:15 PM EST
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More to the tune that Biden showed leadership, not guttership.

by mainsailset on Sun Oct 12th, 2008 at 06:41:55 PM EST
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He was in the cockpit while 4 US Navy planes were wrecked in one way or another. You have to respect that!

Really, I wonder in the entire history of the US Navy, has anyone been in command of more aircraft that were lost?

"Some men see things as they are and say why - I dream things that never were and say why not." George Bernard Shaw.

by benjamink on Sun Oct 12th, 2008 at 06:49:53 PM EST
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Political violence is wrong, whether it is done against Republicans or Democrats. That Molotov cocktail was not aimed at a McCain poster. It was aimed at free speech.

by The Voice In The Wilderness on Sun Oct 12th, 2008 at 07:05:18 PM EST

You understand the sentiment? n/t (none / 1)

by Ed J on Sun Oct 12th, 2008 at 07:13:19 PM EST

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Incitement breeds incitement.

Go view the McCain Ads then ask yourself as Nate Silver does:

Are McCain's Ads Dangerous?
SIlver compares two Ads:
[.]
This is a much darker ad. The viewer is caught in a matrix-like web of television screens. The colors are washed out. There a sinister (although barely audible) low-pitched hum in the background. The female narrator is humorless, scolding.
It is an ad, in short, designed to engage the viewer on an emotional rather than intellectual level, to play to the subconscious mind. And that carries through to the tagline -- "Who is Barack Obama?" -- a question that the ad addresses only obliquely. What, precisely, is that supposed to mean? Shouldn't the ad be telling us who Barack Obama is, rather than asking our imaginations to run wild?
I am no advertising critic, but the McCain campaign's ads are routinely among the most bizarre that I have ever seen, appearing to originate from a sort of parallel universe in which cartoonish Obama heads float disembodied before sepia-toned backgrounds, in which language is distilled to a technocratic shorthand, in which the line between imagination and reality is blurred. I find them exceptionally disturbing, and that is surely the reaction they are meant to evoke.

And McCain is outraged by John Lewis calling him out. Aka George Wallace. McCain is worse. Much worse.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Sun Oct 12th, 2008 at 07:30:10 PM EST

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Absolutely right, Booman. If we do not stand for principle beyond the parochial interests of our tribe, sect, faction, or gender than we take part in the corruption of the side we are loyal to.

Gov. Palin does not think of America as you and I do. She is palling around with Alaskans who want to secede from the United States.

by Multisect on Sun Oct 12th, 2008 at 07:38:17 PM EST

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More than palling around, she is actually sleeping with one.

by The Voice In The Wilderness on Sun Oct 12th, 2008 at 08:03:30 PM EST
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V.I.T.W. along with the abuse of power finding of the Alaskan legislative investigator this is another disqualification for national office ignored by the conglomerate electronic media. It isn't being smeared with something 25-35 years in the past like Obama's involvement with Ayers from 1995-2005. Sarah Palin knew the AKIP guys for what they were from the start, they helped her get elected in Wasilla and she is close to them on a weekly basis. She helps promote AKIP with friendly videos projected on screens at their meetings.
She has done more fore Alaskan secession than most of the card carrying members of AKIP have.

Gov. Palin does not think of America as you and I do. She is palling around with Alaskans who want to secede from the United States.

by Multisect on Sun Oct 12th, 2008 at 08:44:14 PM EST
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McCain has been fanning the flames. It's wrong of course but not surprising that there is a reaction such as this.

Fear will keep the local systems in line. -Grand Moff Tarkin -SLB-

by boran2 (blogistan@yahoo.com) on Sun Oct 12th, 2008 at 08:58:59 PM EST

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The 2 "suspects' should get down and thank the god of their choice...In Oregon, defacing a campaign sign is a FELONY and the Police(with the support of the Courts) are permitted to use (potentially) DEADLY Force in the case of a "fleeing felon"...and the Portland PD have been know to act with"
Extreme prejudice"

by irishdave3 (irish_dave3@yahoo.com) on Sun Oct 12th, 2008 at 09:15:49 PM EST

Puzzling (none / 0)

The article doesn't mention a motive.

People are reading a motive into the fact that it was a 4-foot by 8-foot McCain campaign sign. And that's probably a huge honking handmade plywood sign.

Not to say they weren't over the edge from McCain/Palins attacks.

50 states, 210 media market, 435 Congressional Districts, 3080 counties, 192,480 precincts

by TarheelDem (editor@thepartielion.com) on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 08:00:49 AM EST

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