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Citi Group Next to Epic Fail?

by Steven D
Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 07:30:39 PM EST

It sure seems that's the way the market is betting:

Citigroup shares closed down $1.96 at $6.40 on the New York Stock Exchange and have fallen 33 percent this week as some investors concluded that Chief Executive Vikram Pandit's plan to shed 52,000 jobs and cut expenses by one-fifth won't restore the bank to health.

"People are looking at their business model and wondering how on earth they're going to be able to survive," said William Larkin, a fixed-income manager at Cabot Money management in Salem, Massachusetts. [...]

While shares of the New York-based bank are down 78 percent this year, trading Wednesday brought new urgency as investors viewed the bank's prospects in terms of other companies that either failed or went to the brink.

Worries about Citigroup were a key factor in U.S. stocks falling broadly Wednesday to a 5-1/2-year low.

"The whole thing echoes quite frankly of Bear Stearns," said David Dietze, chief investment officer of Point View Financial Services in Summit, New Jersey. [...]

Wednesday's decline drove Citigroup's market value down to about $34.9 billion, allowing U.S. Bancorp to surpass it as the nation's fourth-largest bank by market value. U.S. Bancorp's asset base is about one-eighth as large.

Citigroup's market value is down from more than $270 billion just two years ago. It is also less than one-half the $75 billion of new capital that Citigroup has raised since the credit crisis began, including $25 billion through Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson's financial industry rescue package.

Somehow I don't think that Citi's CEO imagined shareholders would want him to be one of the 52,000 employees getting their pink slips, do you? But that sort of thing happens when you lose 235 BILLION DOLLARS in 2 years, my friends. Still, I bet he has a tidy nest egg already put aside for rainy days such as this:

Call him Citigroup's quarter-billion-dollar man.

That is how much Vikram Pandit was paid for taking over as chief executive of the embattled bank. Pandit received about $165.2 million in connection with the sale of Old Lane Partners, the investment firm Citigroup bought last April for as much as $800 million to lure him to the company. He received an additional $2.7 million in the roughly six months he served as head of Citigroup's investment bank and alternative investments group.

As the song says, "Oh! What a lucky man, he was."



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Vikram Pandit is a fucking pig.

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; now we know that it is bad economics;" - Franklin Delano Roosevelt
by Salunga on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 04:41:32 AM EST


"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; now we know that it is bad economics;" - Franklin Delano Roosevelt
by Salunga on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 05:17:18 AM EST
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This thing is getting serious enough to bring out the teeth and claws.

Anyone know what the bottom of this market is, like as measured by the Dow?

Alternatively, anyone need a house in southern Michigan. Winters getting milder every year, thanks to global warming, I swear.


by shergald on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 07:38:06 PM EST
Just wait, if Ford or GM goes under you may as well chop that house up and use it for firewood.

"We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further." - Richard Dawkins
by halo0 (philiott at gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 11:21:32 PM EST
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How can these CEOs sleep at night? Unbelievable.


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by robertdsc on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 08:42:01 PM EST
Looking very bad.  One of my Ph.D students went to work for a very successful portfolio management firm that is going to get my 401k in a couple of years.  Argued successfully that they should put a big bet on Citi when it was trading in the mid 30s.  The firm has been successfully choosing stocks that they expect to double in 5 years.  Bad choice.  I'm hoping Citi goes under before I give them my money.

There's no safety anywhere.  

Knut

by Knut Wicksell (b_didnn@hotmail.ca) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 10:10:29 PM EST
Didn't Citi buy WaMu?
by Bob In Pacifica on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 10:48:56 PM EST
Nope, Chase did.

"We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further." - Richard Dawkins
by halo0 (philiott at gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 11:23:01 PM EST
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Hmmm--Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers, AIG, Merrill Lynch, Wasington Mutual etc seems like American financial institutions are heading over the cliff. (Likewise our automotive companies) And, the best guess I can come to on the total value (?) of all those toxic derivatives out there haunting the markets is something in the area of thirty-five to fifty-five trillion dollars.

That screeching sound you hear is the American economy coming to a crash.  The biggest challenge since 1933 looms head and the Republicans, per usual, are without a clue.  The Democrats don't seem much better. But, one thing is for sure.  We are in new waters and the solution will probably come from a different kind of thinking than the one that got us into the problem in the first place.

Time for maximum openness and flexibility as our economy flexes toward an evolutionary change.  Sure hope we are fit enough.  Our survival may be at stake.

To survive cruelties, children had to conceal their own feelings from themselves. Alice Miller The Truth Will Set You Free, p.96

by Daredevil Don on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 01:34:57 AM EST
I grind my teeth every time I go into the lobby of my branch and read the posters hawking 5 crore mortgages in India. They have closed their purse to America but they want to take American deposits and US Treasury money and make mortgages in India.
by The Voice In The Wilderness on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 07:07:47 PM EST


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