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Shinseki for Veteran's Affairs

by BooMan
Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 09:08:53 PM EST

You might remember that election night in 2000 wasn't all bad. Sen. John Ashcroft of Missouri lost to Democrat Mel Carnahan, in spite of the fact that Carnahan had recently perished in a plane crash. It was a momentary good feeling that Bush quickly quashed by appointing Ashcroft as his Attorney General. In retrospect, this finger-in-the-eye was a precursor of how Bush would govern during the next eight years. If given an opportunity to stick it to the Democrats, more often than not, Bush took it.

Barack Obama doesn't have the same vindictive streak. Obama is more inclined to forgive his opponents and offer them an olive branch than he is to deliberately alienate and marginalize them. It can be a bit frustrating for a partisan. We've watched Obama reach out to Colin Powell and Robert Gates and Hillary Clinton, when he might have used them as a negative example. But, Obama has finally delivered a finger-in-the-eye moment to the Bush administration. The Washington Post reports that Obama will announce the appointment of Retired Army Gen. Eric K. Shinseki as his nominee to head the Department of Veterans Affairs tomorrow afternoon.

Shinseki, a 38-year veteran, is best known for his four years as Army chief of staff, and in particular his response to congressional questioning in February 2003 about troop levels necessary to protect a presumed military victory in Iraq.

Shinseki told the Senate Armed Services Committee that "something on the order of several hundred thousand soldiers" could be necessary, an assessment that was at odds with the announced determination of Pentagon leaders.

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld reacted by telling reporters that Shinseki's estimate "will prove to be high," and Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul D. Wolfowitz called the assessment "way off the mark."

Three years later, Gen. John P. Abizaid, commander of U.S. Central Command and the chief architect of U.S. military strategy in Iraq, told the same Senate committee, "General Shinseki was right."

Of course, Shinseki was rewarded for his candor and prescience by being forced into retirement shortly after the fall of Baghdad. In selecting him as the Secretary of Veteran's Affairs, Obama is providing a constant reminder to all veterans that the Bush administration was wrong about Iraq, while the incoming president was right.

It's a small measure of revenge, but it feels good. Shinseki is the first Asian-American to rise to the level of a four-star general.



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Glad to see Shinseki getting something for being one of the only people to have some grasp of what would've been required in Iraq.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to you country.
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 09:28:16 PM EST
I think it is a great pick, Bush and his cronies love the war but short change the warrior with the assistance they deserve.
by americanforliberty on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 10:07:49 PM EST
Just a few minutes ago on DKos, just before I read your diary. It feels SOOOO good.

I don't see Obama as vindictive, but there are some areas he's so passionate about some areas that he's over the edge.

I've been wondering about EPA. I think we will be pleasantly surprised!

Michaela

by michaelmt (MrMichael_t@yahoo.com) on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 10:23:13 PM EST
Personally, I'd rather see him as SecD, or in another position where he would be able to influence on-the-ground strategy and planning, but I guess that would be too much of a poke in the eye (or an up-yours) for Obama, whose instincts may be right.

It's certainly good to see him get some small vindication without vindictiveness, restitution without retribution.

by no3reed on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 11:12:59 PM EST
Or maybe Obama doesn't want any interference in his military plans?
by Hurria (Muslawia@gmail.com) on Sun Dec 7th, 2008 at 02:01:41 AM EST
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He's retired.
by BooMan on Sun Dec 7th, 2008 at 02:05:20 AM EST
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Could still be SecD, though, no?

by no3reed on Sun Dec 7th, 2008 at 02:26:29 AM EST
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you have to be retired from military service for 10 years before you can serve as SecDef.
by BooMan on Sun Dec 7th, 2008 at 12:45:06 PM EST
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Thanks for the information.

And color me embarrassed.

by no3reed on Sun Dec 7th, 2008 at 09:55:08 PM EST
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I was responding to this: "I'd rather see him as SecD, or in another position where he would be able to influence on-the-ground strategy and planning"
by Hurria (Muslawia@gmail.com) on Sun Dec 7th, 2008 at 02:48:27 AM EST
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On February 25, 2003, before the Senate Armed Services Committee Gen. Eric Shinseki replied:

"I would say that what's been mobilized to this point, something on the order of several hundred thousand soldiers, are probably, you know, a figure that would be required.

We're talking about post-hostilities control over a piece of geography that's fairly significant, with the kinds of ethnic tensions that could lead to other problems. And so, it takes significant ground force presence to maintain safe and secure environment to ensure that the people are fed, that water is distributed, all the normal responsibilities that go along with administering a situation like this."

"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."

by Oui on Sun Dec 7th, 2008 at 03:24:39 AM EST
  1. Too bad Shinseki didn't realize that invading Iraq at all was a really, really bad idea no matter how many troops you have.

  2. No number of troops would have prevented the Iraqis from resisting the violent invasion and brutal occupation of their country.
by Hurria (Muslawia@gmail.com) on Sun Dec 7th, 2008 at 03:42:45 AM EST
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Shineski is the right man for the right job! Excellent choice for Obama!

On political conservatives: "I was so shocked I nearly dropped the Bible I was using to help me masturbate into my gun." Bill Maher
by lyvwyr101 (greatbear215@aol.com) on Sun Dec 7th, 2008 at 09:22:05 AM EST


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