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A Good Day in the House

by BooMan
Thu Feb 14th, 2008 at 06:04:13 PM EST

I don't know what got into the Democrats today, but they done good.

Washington, DC – The Democrats in the U.S. House of Representatives stared down the White House today and decided to stick with their version of revisions to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. The House voted to adjourn without letting the phone companies off the hook for breaking the law by helping the government spy on Americas. The House is leaving town and allowing the unconstitutional Protect America Act to expire this weekend.

Yup. The Republicans refused to pass a temporary extension, so the crappy PAA bill that they rammed through Congress last August (during Yearly Kos) will now expire. We're back to the good old FISA bill we knew and loved. I enjoyed seeing Pelosi taking no shit.

Q Are you going to vote on extension legislation today, and what kind of progress have you made with your caucus about supporting this.

Speaker Pelosi: No. The President has said he will not sign an extension. An overwhelming number of Democrats supported the extension. All of the Republicans opposed it, and the President said he was going to veto it. That says to me that the President knows he doesn't need an extension. He knows that the underlying FISA law and the powers given to him in the Protect America Act give him sufficient authority to do all of the surveillance and collecting that he needs to do to protect the American people. If it were so urgent, he would have supported an extension.

Q The administration, they seem to mostly want a path. They speak in terms of wanting a path in terms of the bill. Can you give them some clear read as to when you think an agreement could be reached so that if there was an extension, they could have some confidence that it would be the last one?

Speaker Pelosi: These are not new issues. Everybody understands what retroactive immunity and everybody understands exclusivity. The President does not operate outside the law. There are some other issues that I don't think will be difficult to resolve. But remember this: Last night, the night before last, the Senate finally passed its bill. We passed our bill a long time ago. They are dilatory tactics on the part of the administration so that they couldn't pass their bill until toward the end of this session so that they had us up against the wall once again.

How we protect the American people and how we collect intelligence to fight terrorism is a very important responsibility, and we take it deadly seriously.

Q If you were to get an extension such that was denied yesterday, could you say you're confident

Speaker Pelosi: I will say it this way: We will continue to track that same 21 days because that's what we think we would need. Of course, with the Members out largely next week, but the principles can be working on it and then when we come back to continue whatever floor action we would need in that regard. But we will make sure that everyone knows what the differences are between us on this legislation, and this is not an issue about whether we want to protect the American people. We certainly do. It is about whether the President can act outside the law. He certainly shouldn't. Whether he's a Democrat or he or she is a Republican, they should honor the law?

Q Do you think you could have an agreement in the 21 days?

Speaker Pelosi: I believe we could. Yes, I believe so.

And they charged Josh Bolten and Harriet Miers with contempt of congress. Maybe they're getting some confidence back.



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Yes, a great day in the House.  They did exactly what they should always have done.  Let it expire.  It solved all the problems - at least for the moment.  

I'm glad it finally dawned on them that they don't need the cover of a Bush veto.  They could just let the damn thing expire.  

by maryb2004 on Thu Feb 14th, 2008 at 06:11:56 PM EST
they're watching the turnout.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"
by idredit on Thu Feb 14th, 2008 at 06:19:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Yeah, maybe the sheer volume of people showing up in the primaries is starting to make their feet feel a bit warm. Not to mention them looking at Obama's successes and being astute judges of the direction the political winds are blowing.

I for one welcome our new Twitter overlords. @Omir55
by Omir the Storyteller (omir.the.storyteller -CAT- gmail -DOG- com) on Thu Feb 14th, 2008 at 06:53:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I think what got into the democrats was Donna Edwards whipping Wynn's butt in the primary. Makes em all feel just a bit vulnerable, eh? Standing up for what is right makes it less likely that the same will happen to them.
by RevDeb on Thu Feb 14th, 2008 at 06:11:35 PM EST
i'd sure like to think so.
by BooMan on Thu Feb 14th, 2008 at 06:22:32 PM EST
[ Parent ]
my first thought as well -- the edwards victory --hopefully the edwards win is a first step -- now let's remember the senators who voted for telecom immunity. they all need to go.
by thersitz on Thu Feb 14th, 2008 at 10:33:06 PM EST
[ Parent ]
l'd like to think all the shit "we" gave the senate, and the house had something to do with it...but regardless, it was a Good Day.

the revolution will not be televised...
by dada on Thu Feb 14th, 2008 at 06:19:04 PM EST
an aside: pelosi's site...www.speaker.gov...is overwhelmed.

kudo's are in order, so do keep trying...l intend to.

the revolution will not be televised...

by dada on Thu Feb 14th, 2008 at 06:23:47 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Did y'all see little Georgie tremblin' in his little boy Cowboy Boots today? Sayin' stuff like "the terrrrists are fixin' to kill us if we don't pass this thang."

Loved it. mister 29% proved his worth today.

by RandyH on Thu Feb 14th, 2008 at 06:36:42 PM EST
cough...<clears throat>...mi mi mi mi miiii...

IT'S ABOUT F*CKING TIME!!!!

Tengo un sueño.
by ejmw (ewitham (at) umich (dot) edu) on Thu Feb 14th, 2008 at 06:37:24 PM EST
[laughing in hysterics]



Latino Político | "We are condemned to kill time, thus we die bit by bit." - Octavio Paz

by Man Eegee (man.eegee at gmail dot com) on Thu Feb 14th, 2008 at 06:42:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I love that nerdy guy from Sesame Street. What's his name again?
by RandyH on Thu Feb 14th, 2008 at 06:47:55 PM EST
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He was Dr. Bunsen Honeydew's assistant, and always ended up on the wrong end of some scientific mishap or another. I loved it.

I for one welcome our new Twitter overlords. @Omir55
by Omir the Storyteller (omir.the.storyteller -CAT- gmail -DOG- com) on Thu Feb 14th, 2008 at 06:50:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I could have scrolled down more.  

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by fabooj (fabooj [at} mail [dot} com) on Thu Feb 14th, 2008 at 08:26:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]
but what's the fun of that?

I for one welcome our new Twitter overlords. @Omir55
by Omir the Storyteller (omir.the.storyteller -CAT- gmail -DOG- com) on Thu Feb 14th, 2008 at 10:09:14 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Trivia note: The Sesame Street folks modeled Dr Bunsen Honeydew after my Uncle Bob, who was a research chemist.

I myself also bear more resemblance to Beaker... :^)

by OkieByAccident (glimmung2 at yahoo dot com) on Fri Feb 15th, 2008 at 11:00:03 AM EST
[ Parent ]
that's awesome!

Latino Político | "We are condemned to kill time, thus we die bit by bit." - Octavio Paz
by Man Eegee (man.eegee at gmail dot com) on Fri Feb 15th, 2008 at 11:17:56 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I thought it was pretty cool too! He died several years ago, which was when I learned this.
by OkieByAccident (glimmung2 at yahoo dot com) on Fri Feb 15th, 2008 at 01:34:49 PM EST
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My little boy wakes up every morning looking like that.  

~~~THIS SPACE FOR RENT~~~
by fabooj (fabooj [at} mail [dot} com) on Thu Feb 14th, 2008 at 08:25:48 PM EST
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Holy Crap, BEAKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You sir, have made my day. In other news: after 2 years the Dems discovered their spines, I just discovered an ingrown toenail. And Dana Perino doesn't wike the weft wing bwogs....

?question everything?
by jdogg333 on Fri Feb 15th, 2008 at 05:52:47 AM EST
[ Parent ]
glad the pic could be of assistance  :)  

as for Dana's verbal diarrhea, she clearly needs a better imagination because I could think of much better things for Congress to act on that could be characterized as "fantasies of left wing bloggers"  

Latino Político | "We are condemned to kill time, thus we die bit by bit." - Octavio Paz

by Man Eegee (man.eegee at gmail dot com) on Fri Feb 15th, 2008 at 11:21:49 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Maybe they heard this part from Obama's speech where he swiped at the Democrats in congress...

[...]

It's a game where the only way for Democrats to look tough on national security is by talking, and acting and voting like Bush-McCain Republicans, while our troops are sent to fight tour after tour of duty in a war that should've never been authorized and should've never been waged. That's what happens when we use 9/11 to scare up votes, and that's why we need to do more than end a war - we need to end the mindset that got us into war.

[...]

by RandyH on Thu Feb 14th, 2008 at 06:46:56 PM EST

Damn, somebody better check real close and make sure the House hasn't been taken over by pod people.


"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity"

by MikeInOhio (miken45054@yahoo.com) on Thu Feb 14th, 2008 at 07:09:14 PM EST
A year from now, the "sturm und drang" of the hearings will be over. But what will remain will be civil rights lawsuits because of the concerted effort at voter suppression. These simply won't go away. (Fielding knows it!) The evidence that Miers and Bolton may be forced to provide will be crucial to these suits.

Rove may yet do the perp walk because of what happened today?

Michaela

by michaelmt (MrMichael_t@yahoo.com) on Thu Feb 14th, 2008 at 07:30:18 PM EST
Good for them for remembering that they don't have to take orders from Boy Wonder.  Let's hope the Democrats are indeed willing to fight this thing out.  We need to see some big name Democrats come out swinging (I'm talkin to you Clinton and Obama--get into the ring).  

Let's have it out.  The Republicans want to fight on this issue--just look at them blatantly lie and demagogue the issue ("Democrats won't let Bush spy on al qaeda--an enemy that wants to kill us").  This is the rotten go-to attack move that's always worked for the Republicans in the past.  There is only one way to fight this "blood libel"--a reciprocal and ferocious counter attack.  

Do the Democrats really have the fight in them?  If they eventually give in then they will be royally punked yet again and erase any doubt of their political incompetence.  Maybe the Democrats have finally gotten it through their thick skulls that they have to fight Bush if they want to be seen as tough.  

by SFHawkguy on Thu Feb 14th, 2008 at 08:42:17 PM EST
Despite what I said earlier today about there being corrupt Democrats, not all of them are corrupt.  Personally, I don't believe all the Republicans are corrupt either.  Absolute judgments of good and evil should be left to Der Chimpenfuhrer, because that's all he's capable of making in his horrible little world.

But maybe there's some hope left after all out here in Reality Based Land.

More at Zandar vs. The Stupid.

by Zandar1 on Thu Feb 14th, 2008 at 09:11:53 PM EST


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