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FISA: Another Brick in the Wall

by dada
Tue Feb 19th, 2008 at 02:44:07 PM EST

 

long story short, the supremes have refused to hear the ACLU's challenge to the NSA's warrantless wiretapping, without comment.

the importance of this decision, which puts an end to the legal challenge, in relation to the FISA statute, especially the teleCON immunity provision, is smartly summed up by Glenn Greenwald:

... This decision does mean, however, that EFF's pending lawsuits in San Francisco against AT&T, Verizon and the other telecoms are now the sole remaining vehicle for finding out what the Bush administration actually did when spying on Americans for years without warrants, and as importantly, is the last hope for obtaining a judicial ruling as to whether the President broke the law and violated the Constitution when doing so. If Jay Rockefeller and Dick Cheney have their way and retroactive amnesty is granted to these telecoms, those lawsuits will be forever dismissed and Americans will remain indefinitely in the dark about how our own Government spied on us, and will forever lose the opportunity to have a court rule whether the Government broke the law and violated our Constitutional rights...

the house will be back in session next week, and the full court media onslaught is already underway.

chimpy, from his saturday radio address, leading the way:

"At this moment, somewhere in the world, terrorists are planning a new attack on America."

contact your Representative... Senator...Speaker Pelosi...and Majority Leader Reid    

NO TELECON IMMUNITY
NO WARRANTLESS WIRETAPPING

ITMF'sA



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keep the pressure on!

thanks

lTMF'sA...the revolution will not be televised...Peace

by dada on Tue Feb 19th, 2008 at 02:45:12 PM EST
dada, my take,
If the court takes it up & a ruling reached or decided, that`s the end.
 By not taking it up, they leave it open for a lower court to make a ruling letting the supremes to rule on it later. I think there is a flaw somewhere (no kidding) where the supremes don``t want to be involved, yet by refusing to hear it at this time, if the telecom immunity passes, they have clean shorts.
 I think the best thing to do is to make absolutely sure the immunity does not pass. Otherwise, it`s all over but the crying.
The torches & pitchforks are next, but maybe only years from now.
The general public do not know what is going on.
The media should be impeached.

The difference between theists and atheists is that the atheists don't set the theists on fire for refusing to agree with them.
by KNUCKLEHEAD on Tue Feb 19th, 2008 at 05:37:30 PM EST
it is now in the hands of the house, and the senate. if the immunity/amnesty provision is not struck down, there will be no accounting for the illegal acts that this administration has done, not just from nine-one-one on, but beginning in feb of 2001 when they took over...thru a coup abetted by the SCOTUS [tho SCROTUMS may be the more apropos term].

it would be nice if hillary and/or obama would make take a more forceful position of leadership and get behind the rule of law/and these issues as part of their campaigns...not that l'm optimistic that'll happen.

regardless, those who support the investigation and /legal resolution of this issue can contact them, as l have done, thru their respective senate.gov sites:

clinton

obama

or their campaign sites.

lTMF'sA...the revolution will not be televised...Peace

by dada on Tue Feb 19th, 2008 at 06:18:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]
dada,
You`d think that the candidates` political advisors would know that promising to investigate the malfeasance committed by the present gang of tyrants (oxymoron, in this plural context)  in the fascist controlled white castle, might assure them of the presidency. Whether that position failed to achieve the titular head of state in question, it would definitely assure them a place in history as possibly the last presidential hopeful to take a stand in this once free republic. As long as these candidates do not stand up, they should never sit down as leaders.

The difference between theists and atheists is that the atheists don't set the theists on fire for refusing to agree with them.
by KNUCKLEHEAD on Tue Feb 19th, 2008 at 10:21:28 PM EST
the Gavel has an excellent post up re: FISA

The Truth About the Debate Over the FISA Law
Bush Administration Misleading the American People About Our National Security in Effort to Strong-Arm Congress for Telecom Immunity

President Bush and Congressional Republicans are falsely claiming that the expiration of a temporary provision of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) is endangering America and compromising our national security...

and KO had constitutional scholar jonathan turley on countdown discussing the supremes' decision to not hear the ACLU v. NSA case:

OLBERMANN: Why would evidence like this entire AT&T room in San Francisco--we know the number of the room, we know the guy who hooked it all up. Why is that not sufficient to at least move this lawsuit on?

TURLEY: Well, that's part of the ridiculous element to all this. That we know there's an NSA program; we know that it's illegal. There's been no showing nor is no showing possible that the President had the authority to order what he did. This is a crime, defined under federal law. So there's no mystery to the program, there's not a particular debate to its illegality. The only issue is standing: the ability of someone to come in and say, "I can show I was individually harmed." And they can't do that because the Courts won't give them the information they need and Congress will do nothing to force out into the public the information needed to get this type of relief. And as you noted, the Congress is going further in the opposite direction; they're trying to extinguish suits against telecom companies that have been successful.

C&L w/ video

recommended

lTMF'sA...the revolution will not be televised...Peace

by dada on Wed Feb 20th, 2008 at 02:11:14 PM EST


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