I don't see why you're so dismissive. Haven't you noticed the vitriol directed toward Hillary? If she becomes the nominee (not likely, but still possible), I can see a lot of progressive types voting Nader.

what's significant to me is that Meet the Press chooses the moment of Obama's victory (okay, it's still 9 days off) to have a guy on to talk about how both Democrats suck.  

That seems like a deliberate smack-down to the Democrats' momentum.

He will have a very big problem getting on ballots, unless the Greens are again gullible. He needs a party for most states' ballots. He got on MTP, and threatened the Democrats. Stick a fork in him.

Michaela

Well, I think it's probably good. Those who could never bring themselves to vote for a black man (but they're not racists, of course) now have somewhere other than McCain to put their vote. He won't add up to much though and he'd most likely draw more from McCain than Obama.

Re: Nader sucking all of the air out of the Green Party.  I used to be a registered Green back in the early 90s.  I would switch registration to vote in the Dem. primaries, then switch back.  I the late 90s, I was a DTS voter.  I've been a solidly registered Democrat since '99.

One of the reasons for my changes was the lack of viable candidates.  Keep in mind that I was active in my local Dem. parties, even while registered Green or DTS.  In general, I detest having to work with Democrats as a group because there's usually a lot of talk and action takes a while to get going until someone (me) takes the reins.  With the Greens it was like hanging out with pot-addled philosophy majors who are finding themselves.  It was painful, mostly because they've all been so sheltered.  They know the issues, but reality was far away.  The few times a good Green candidate came on the scene, these Greens would waste good time tearing down the candidate because of one issue or another.  

I remember one guy running for school board or councilman.  He was a very good candidate and there was no reason not to vote for the guy.  One lady said, "I live next to him and his family doesn't recycle.  That was all it took.  No one would support him.  No one even bothered to check if it was true.  Of course, the lady's brother-in-law was running for the same spot, but she neglected to mention that.  That was my last straw with the Green Party.  

Over the years, I have voted for Green Party candidates for some offices here in Los Angeles.  Some of these people are really good for gov't.  But they always defer to Nader, as if he's the figurehead for the party, not someone who just came in and kind of usurped the titled.

Blogging While Brown Convention Atlanta, GA July 25-27, 2008

Well, I guess I get to defend both Nader and George Romney in the same comment.

First of all, I don't know where you got that idea about George Romney running every four years and becoming a national joke.  He ran once, in 1968.  He started out as a serious candidate, appealing to the liberal wing of the Republican party (there was such a thing at the time), but dropped out early in the race.  In trying to explain his flip-flopping on Vietnam, Romney said that he had been misled by the lies of the Johnson Administration.  Many Democrats today say much the same thing about their initial support for Iraq.  The press, however, destroyed Romney for his flip-flop, and especially his remark that he had been "brainwashed" by Administration propaganda.

I'm glad that there will an alternative to McCain-Obama in November.  I voted for the Democrat in 2000 and 2004, but after the spectacle of eight years of Democratic nonperformance as an opposition party, I have no intention of voting for them again.

I don't know why, but it bothers me to stay home on election day.  I'd rather vote for Nader.  

Ego, Ego, Ego and nothing more. He jumps into the campaign a year late, when he can say "oh, there's no candidate that supports my position." Ego. Gets to meet with Tim R. on Meet the Press. Ego. Uses the Green Party to meet his own needs. Ego.

I think there should be a day where we just mark a time and all try to hop on to his web-site and crash his server. However, knowing Nader his ego would tell him he's wildly popular.

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my missive was short: just go away, please.

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lTMF'sA...the revolution will not be televised...Peace

I would like to see LaRouche v. Nader in a steel cage death match....

....world would be a better place.

Ralph Nader has never held any political office; he's never so much as served on a school board. He's running for president because he feels entitled to the job. He feels superior to most other people. While he probably would not be the kind of disastrous president that Bush has been, he is, just like Bush, an arrogant shithead. He did plenty of good things in the past, but today he's just a shithead.

Cynthia McKinney should be the Green presidential candidate. She would have coasted to the nomination, too, had it not been for Nader. Somehow, he showed up on the California Green primary ballot before he had even declared his candidacy. He won 61% of the vote in CA, a figure likely based purely on name recognition. How did he even get on the ballot?

McKinney is a hard-nosed, intelligent, six-time congresswoman. The former Democrat gives the Greens some DC credibility that even Nader can't match. She could build the greens in a way Nader wont. Nader's candidacy is bad for the Greens.

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