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Clinton=Bush

by BooMan
Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 02:30:56 PM EST

Two things that most Democrats are really tired of are politicians that seek to stoke our fears rather than inspire our service, and politicians that don't play by the rules. Whether it was color-coded terror warnings or Bush's Unitary Executive theory, Democrats have recoiled in horror. So that is why it is so telling that the Clintons are pushing both a lawsuit to overturn the caucus rules in Texas and a fear-mongering television commercial. It reminds us of everything we hated about Bush. And the Clintons think this will make us vote for them? They are so out of touch.



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Thanks for posting this. Anybody have a good list of contact info for news stations. I think the news stations that ran Hillary's "shame on you" tirade should hear about this. The Clinton ad really is something out of the Karl Rove playbook.

Also, Barack Obama responds.

by Renee in Ohio on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 02:38:03 PM EST
It's a pattern. This ad is one of the worst I've seen. Clinton has fear mongered all the way.

Here Is The Washington Note, the well connected Steve Clemons' site. Clemons write on foreign and domestic policy issues, more foreign. He has been a  Hillary fan.

Scott Paul, subbing for Steve Clemons, finds

Hillary's line Troubling-straight from Frank Luntz's playbook

Hillary Clinton told her supporters last night: "One of us is ready to be commander-in-chief in a dangerous world."

Setting up the "dangerous world" frame is right out of the Frank Luntz playbook. I'd link to his writings on national security but I can't seem to find them online -- I only have hard copies. Basically, Luntz's message is if you make the world seem dangerous and scary, voters will choose conservative candidate more willing to confront problems and bad guys directly with guns and bombs.[.]

and a telling comment:

"If you really believe that she would have any difficulty accepting an 80% chance that her comments destroy the Democratic party's chances in the general in return for a 10% chance that she could somehow be the nominee, you just have not been paying attention.

 It's tragic, really: she probably would have been a highly qualified and competent President in some other election cycle, but her frustration over not getting her "due" is destroying her.

Posted by: retr2327 at February 20, 2008 11:36 AM"




Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"
by idredit on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 04:22:41 PM EST
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I've had MSNBC on most of the day and they are running her ad, followed by Obama's response about once every half-hour. They usually also bring someone in to comment and the consensus seems to be that the fear-mongering probably won't work.
by RandyH on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 03:11:52 PM EST
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Today I agree with you totally on the Clintons.  I'm tired of them.  I want them to go away.  Forever.
by maryb2004 on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 02:45:09 PM EST
Check this out:

by BooMan on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 03:00:47 PM EST
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Whatever. Go Mike Gravel! Huh?
by RandyH on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 03:05:54 PM EST
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it made me laugh.

I just got your letter.  Many thanks.  I really appreciate it.

by BooMan on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 03:14:13 PM EST
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Cash is king.
by RandyH on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 03:17:58 PM EST
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um .... I don't get it.
by maryb2004 on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 04:10:51 PM EST
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Bingo. Clinton = Rove, really.

If she had just run the same campaign her husband did in 1992, (basically the Obama campaign now) she could have probably won this thing, but she decided to run Bush's 2004 campaign, which was rejected in the 2006 mid-terms, but she wasn't paying attention. People are tired of being scared into voting for or against someone. They realize it's all bullshit and they're going with their gut on this one. The hope-monger wins.

by RandyH on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 02:46:48 PM EST
Check out this YouTube ad for Obama in contrast to the Clinton ad:



A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. Franklin D. Roosevelt

by Steven D on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 02:48:23 PM EST
That's a new one and I like it... ALOT. Good stuff. Thank you Steven.
by RandyH on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 02:53:35 PM EST
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I think I'd have liked it better if it had people doing "This is my America, your America, our America" in Chinese, Vietnamese, ASL and maybe a couple other languages, not just Spanish.

But yeah, good stuff. I still like it.

I for one welcome our new Twitter overlords. @Omir55

by Omir the Storyteller (omir.the.storyteller -CAT- gmail -DOG- com) on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 03:23:28 PM EST
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I think at was aimed at Texas which may explain the numerous latino and latina voices.

A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. Franklin D. Roosevelt
by Steven D on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 03:48:23 PM EST
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It was just beautiful and very inspiring--and I can use inspiring today since I still have a lot on my plate. I was absolutely moved by it.

For all those who think this is a "cult" or somehow negative--stuff it! I'm glad to see people engaged! There's enough crap in this world that we all have to deal with...let the cynics stew in it.

Can't hear ya, Peach!

by AP on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 04:08:12 PM EST
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Makes sense. Out here in Western Washington we have a pretty big Asian community so I expect more Asian representation. Eastern Washington, it's a different story.

I for one welcome our new Twitter overlords. @Omir55
by Omir the Storyteller (omir.the.storyteller -CAT- gmail -DOG- com) on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 04:14:17 PM EST
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Well, speaking from Eastern WA, I can say we're more worried about critters on the Open Range than anything else.

by mainsailset on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 05:49:57 PM EST
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Have we all seen this one yet? I think it's just brilliant. It was done by an independent group "Amigos De Obama" and not sponsored by the campaign.

by RandyH on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 03:30:23 PM EST
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also this latino song making the rounds in Texas

Obama, Obama

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 04:07:23 PM EST
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It just has not sunk in to these people that the dynamics in this election are so completely different than the DLC textbook rules which have guided them forever.  Their total cognitive dissonance is staggering.  I understand that in the beginning this took them by surprise.  But their total inability to understand and adapt to the changing landscape coupled with their tone deafness to the unprecedented actions and involvement of millions of previously uninspired Democrats should certainly be an indication as to why they should not, must not and will not win.

"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity"
by MikeInOhio on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 02:49:59 PM EST
Her campaign has no ability to adapt to new realities; not a good sign for someone 'ready on day one'.
by ask on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 02:55:38 PM EST
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Explaining why the 50+1 strategy doesn't work can be like explaining non-Euclidean geometry to a flat earth theorist.

George Lakoff describes the VIP method in his Thinking Points (available at the Rockridge Institute), which advises against the "laundry lists" of policies which have been the hallmark of the Clinton campaign. [see related article below]

http://www.rockridgenation.org/blog/archive/2008/02/28/why-voters-arent-motivated-by-a-laundry-list- of-positions-on-issues

I can't say I'm unhappy that the Clinton campaign never figured it out, and that the Obama campaign did, but it's astonishing how clueless the Clinton campaign is. And I'll say it again -- it's not partisanship that leads me to accuse incompetence; it's their incompetence is that made my decision so easy.

"..the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. .. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked.." - Goering

by colinski on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 06:35:09 PM EST
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Well, at least this gives us a glimpse at Obama's rapid response team.  I've been impressed with the quickness they've hit back and the forcefulness of their retorts.  Crisp, unabashed and repeated by a few public campaign operatives, including Barack.  

It's also giving him plenty of practice on how to deal with OHMYGOODNESSWE'REALLGONNADIE campaigning.  Too bad that it's coming from another person within the same party.   Once again, though:  not surprised.

Latino Político | "We are condemned to kill time, thus we die bit by bit." - Octavio Paz

by Man Eegee (man.eegee at gmail dot com) on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 03:24:18 PM EST
I read "OHMYGOODNESSWE'REALLGONNADIE" and wondered, "What the hell are 'gonnadies'? Is that some weird plural of gonads?  What does gonads have to do with this?"

Then I reread it.

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by fabooj (fabooj [at} mail [dot} com) on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 03:41:12 PM EST
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You were not alone...
by ask on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 03:55:11 PM EST
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The nominee will need 'em as things get tougher.

Oh, there you are, Perry. -Phineas -SLB-
by boran2 (blogistan@yahoo.com) on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 04:08:51 PM EST
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The apostrophe break did me in....I was reading it "real gonnadies"...as opposed to simulated gonnadies?
by Second Nature (denn1214 at gmail) on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 04:55:43 PM EST
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my work is done here  ;)

Latino Político | "We are condemned to kill time, thus we die bit by bit." - Octavio Paz
by Man Eegee (man.eegee at gmail dot com) on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 05:08:45 PM EST
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The Hillary Clinton ad has hit the front page of the NYT online. I tuned out on the Clintons when her husband Bill went hobnobbing with Georgie's daddy after the tsunami and agreed that beachfront property occupied by tsunami victims, for who knows how long, now needed to be turned into tourist and expensive residential sites. And then he had the cheek to state that his wife would send him and Georgie's daddy around the world to tell everyone how nice we US people really are, in spite of everything. It looks as if Hillary Clinton is NOT planning to go back to Washington and do the work she's being paid to do even if she loses both Texas and Ohio next Tuesday.
by Quentin on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 03:10:29 PM EST
Each tortured strike she tries that Obama counterpunches is only serving to make him look the stronger and her unhinged. I can't get over how her machinations are drawing a finer point on the differences between insider vs progressive goals.

by mainsailset on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 03:11:33 PM EST
   SENATOR ROCKEFELLER ENDORSES BARACK OBAMA
    Chairman of Senate Intelligence Committee Says Obama is Right Leader to Meet Nation's Challenges

    CHICAGO, IL - Today, Senator Jay Rockefeller, the Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, endorsed Barack Obama for president, citing his judgment on the Iraq war and national security issues, and calling him the right candidate to lead our country during a time of instability at home and abroad.

    Senator Rockefeller said, "Today, I'm proud to lend my support and strong endorsement to Barack Obama and his candidacy for President of the United States. Barack Obama is the most qualified person - Democrat or Republican - to lead our country in the face of enormous challenges - the very real threat of terrorism, economic uncertainty, and instability at home and abroad.

    "As Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, I am all too aware that the threats we face are unconventional.  They are sophisticated.  They are constantly changing and adapting.  And they are very serious. What matters most in the Oval Office is sound judgment and decisive action.  It's about getting it right on crucial national security questions the first time - and every time.

    "The indisputable fact is Barack Obama was right about Iraq when many of us were wrong.  It was a tough call and the single greatest national security question, and mistake, of our time.  Today, we remain a country at war, and countless mistakes over the last six and a half years have made us less safe.  The stakes have never been higher, and that is why we must take a stand.

    "I am not just supporting Barack Obama because of his strength on national security.  I am equally proud of his commitment to rebuild America - so that we're a country of equality and prosperity - where no segment of society is left behind.  I know Barack Obama will fight and win the battle for health care, good paying jobs, and energy security.  

    "Barack Obama is a uniquely gifted, brilliant and strategic thinker, who genuinely understands the hopes and desires of the American people.  There is nothing sheltered about his life; he's always had to work hard, and he's always fought to make his community and his country better.  

    "A leader like Barack Obama just doesn't come along very often, and as voters who care passionately about the future of our country, we cannot afford to squander this opportunity."

    Senator Obama said, "Senator Rockefeller's leadership in the Senate has strengthened our national security and advanced economic opportunity, and I am honored to have his support. Nobody understands the unconventional threats of the 21st century better than Jay Rockefeller, and I look forward to partnering with him as President to strengthen our intelligence community and protect our homeland. Together, we will work to reclaim the American Dream for working families at home, and to restore our security and standing abroad."

    ###

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    February 29, 2008
    Contact: Obama Press Office

by BooMan on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 03:36:14 PM EST
All these supposed Dem.Senators that I heartily despise are endorsing Obama.  The Dem. Senators that I like are all still sitting on the fence.

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by fabooj (fabooj [at} mail [dot} com) on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 03:38:06 PM EST
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The rats always leave the ship first.

---Cthulhu for President: Why vote for the lesser evil?
by eodell (eodell at naqada dot org) on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 03:42:15 PM EST
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Bill Richardson is supposed to announce... something in the next day or so. Perhaps also Edwards. Maybe at the same time. Who knows.
by RandyH on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 03:39:19 PM EST
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Edwards will announce he's jumping back in the race with Richardson as VP.

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by fabooj (fabooj [at} mail [dot} com) on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 at 04:16:51 PM EST
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