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David Schuster Gets Suspended

by BooMan
Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 06:18:59 PM EST

David Schuster's unfortunate choice of words leads to his suspension from MSNBC:

NBC News President Steve Capus sent the following statement to Media Matters for America:

NBC NEWS STATEMENT REGARDING CHELSEA CLINTON COMMENT:

On Thursday's "Tucker" on MSNBC, David Shuster, who was serving as guest-host of the program, made a comment about Chelsea Clinton and the Clinton campaign that was irresponsible and inappropriate. Shuster, who apologized this morning on MSNBC and will again this evening, has been suspended from appearing on all NBC News broadcasts, other than to make his apology. He has also extended an apology to the Clinton family. NBC News takes these matters seriously, and offers our sincere regrets to the Clintons for the remarks.

What Schuster actually said was that using Chelsea Clinton to make phonecalls on her mother's behalf was the equivalent of 'pimping her out'.

SHUSTER: But doesn't it seem like Chelsea's sort of being pimped out in some weird sort of way?

I understand why Schuster has been suspended. That comment was way out of line. I think a lot more people should be suspended for the things they say, especially on talk radio. For example:

Summary: On The Savage Nation, a caller identified by Michael Savage as "Kojo" asked Savage: "[D]o you know how the AIDS got there [Africa]?" Savage responded: "It got there because it was spread from eating green monkey meat, my friend. If you study the science -- but I don't think you have the capacity to understand science, my dear friend Kojo." Later, Savage stated: "See, we don't live in Africa where people settle arguments with machetes. We live in a country where we settle it with arguments. Something you apparently don't know anything about. ... Couldn't use the machete so his mind went blank. There, that's what we got. There's multiculturalism for you. There's immigration for you. There's the new America for you. Bring them in by the millions. Bring in 10 million more from Africa. Bring them in with AIDS. Show how multicultural you are. They can't reason, but bring them in with a machete in their head. Go ahead. Bring them in with machetes in their mind."

This isn't to question Schuster's suspension, but just to point out that not everyone has the kind of pull to get idiots suspended from their jobs when they says intolerable shit.



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A few days ago Robin Morgan dismissed Caroline Kennedy's support for Obama as a kind of vile Electra complex for her dead daddy. That made the rounds with lots of cheers but nary a complaint by feminists who see Clinton as an icon.

I expect that this kind of talking point will be overlooked by Clinton supporters, just like Gloria Steinem's "Women are never frontrunners" op-ed.

by Bob In Pacifica on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 06:31:29 PM EST
Electra complex?  Well, that's prurient.
by BooMan on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 06:32:38 PM EST
[ Parent ]
While looking for the original Robin Morgan piece, I found this on a Hillary blog, here:

http://connect.hillaryclinton.com/blog-entry/Clevelandgrrrl4hillarys-Blog/Second-Wave-Feminist/40002 5841

"We know that there is a huge gaping hole between those who recall John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King, Jr. vs. Daddy Pappa Rip Your Head Off Rapper of the Year."

Nice to know that the Clinton people are keeping the debate on such a high level.

by Bob In Pacifica on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 06:42:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Here:

http://www.womensmediacenter.com/ex/020108.html

Morgan actually connects Obama, through Caroline Kennedy, to Chappaquiddick and Marilyn Monroe's suicide.

Ah, poetic license!

by Bob In Pacifica on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 06:52:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]
You're right, and I recall that comment, too. Oddly, even though it was so over-the-top, I hadn't thought of it since then -- at least until right now.

Maybe one of our resident computer literati could dig it up and leave us a link.

Regarding Schuster, I think he suffered from temporary lexical Tourette's syndrome. Despite the pejorative connotation, it is a very, very rough synonym for what he seems to have mean by his comment. Again, as with the previous comment, those type of comments are immediately filtered out or translated in my brain. I'm sure he didn't mean his comment literally.

"..the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. .. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked.." - Goering

by colinski on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 08:55:22 PM EST
[ Parent ]
From the February 8 edition of MSNBC's Tucker:

    NORAH O'DONNELL (guest host): But we begin with MSNBC's David Shuster, who has a comment about something he said on this show last night.

    SHUSTER: Last night during the show, I spoke about Chelsea Clinton and noted the affection that so many of us have for her. I also spoke about phone calls she has made to super delegates to convince them to support her mom. In describing this effort, I used a phrase that was inappropriate, and I apologize to the Clinton family, the Clinton campaign, and all of you who were justifiably offended. As I said this morning on MSNBC, all Americans should be proud of Chelsea Clinton, and I am particularly sorry that my language diminished the regard and respect she has earned from all of us and the respect her parents have earned in how they raised her.

    O'DONNELL: OK, David.

by BooMan on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 06:31:47 PM EST
I saw that apology. What he said WAS inappropriate, but it  is out of the ordinary for Shuster. He is usually very professional and he chose the wrong words there. Not like Matthews or Tucker or many others on any given day.

I do question their making an example of him, of all people. While I understand the outrage, I hope he returns to the air soon.

by RandyH on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 06:40:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]
understand he's to apologize, again - on the evening news.

Good publicity for Clinton.

But have you ever heard of a candidate doing this?

Clinton Appeals For Cash At Campaign Rally"


TACOMA, WA -- Hillary Clinton made a financial appeal to voters at a large rally at the University of Puget Sound, just days after announcing she had loaned her campaign $5 million at the end of January.

The New York senator said that after the announcement, a friend had been surprised that she needed the money. "As some of you may have heard, I recently loaned my campaign some money because I intended to be competitive going into Super Tuesday, and I think it turned out to be a good investment with all those victories across the country. And when a friend of mine heard that I had had loaned my campaign some money she said 'Well, why didn't you tell me you needed help and of course we'll be there for you?' Well, I have been overwhelmed by the response that I've received over the last three days," Clinton said, before sharing stories of some of the 75,000 new contributors who have donated to her campaign in the last few days, including a woman who said she wanted to contribute to the campaign rather than go out for Valentine's Day.

"So I hope you will go to hillaryclinton.com read about the issues, read about what I've done for 35 years, and you will help support this campaign," the senator said.




Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"
by idredit on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 06:48:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Not only that, but MSNBC must really feel they owe her something because they broadcast almost the entire Tacoma rally today. But just a brief mention and clip of Obama's rally in Seattle right afterward.
by RandyH on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 06:55:10 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I agree that his comment more reflected a disgust at a family member supporting a candidate than it was a sexist attack.  I think the Clintons are overly sensitive to any charge that they are being unseemly by campaigning for Hillary.

But c'mon.  This is getting silly.  His comment was no worse than one hears daily in heated political discussions.  Hillary simply does well when she's the victim.  I bet she has a moment on air shortly before the next elections where she "tears up" about how the media has treated Chelsea.

But this stuff backfires.  It reminds people of the politically correct 90s that most average people recoil at (and they also associate liberals with pcness).  This stuff will just drive Hillary's negatives higher and get her the sympathy vote of the media and Republicans being mean to her.

Sigh.  This is what we have to look forward to with a Hillary candidacy.

by SFHawkguy on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 06:38:10 PM EST
is a Shuster Suspension like a Romney Suspension? (ie, does this impact the delegate count in any way?).
by northanger on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 07:01:13 PM EST
It was a stupid choice of words and people were rightfully offended by them...so he sincerely apologized and that should be the end of the story.  Chelsea Clinton is an adult now and for some reason, though she's heavily involved in her mother's campaign, she is still being sheltered from the press as if she's that awkward teenager during her father's tenure in the white house. What's up with that?
by Second Nature (denn1214 at gmail) on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 07:02:38 PM EST
It's not over over at TalkLeft. On and on and on.
by Bob In Pacifica on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 07:36:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]
And then there is this:
link

MSNBC's Shuster falsely suggested Mark Penn first brought up Obama drug use issue on Hardball
Summary: On MSNBC's Morning Joe, David Shuster asked Clinton campaign chief strategist Mark Penn if it was a "mistake" when he "brought up a word and reminded people of [Sen.] Barack Obama's past drug use" on Hardball in December 2007. But, Penn was not the one to bring up Obama's past drug use; it was Chris Matthews. Matthews, as well as Norah O'Donnell, have falsely asserted that Penn brought up the issue.


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by diane101 (dianed101 @ yahoo.com) on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 07:06:27 PM EST
Matthews said drug use, Penn ramped it up to 'cocaine'.

by BooMan on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 07:10:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Booman, you can always one up on these issues, yeah ok to say drug, but very very bad if one of Hillary's team mentions which drug.,...which does make a difference, doesn't it, mairjuana is relatively accepted but not cocaine, but yet he did concaine but dare not speak of it..  
Is it then ok to lie about it and say Mark Penn brought it up, oh I forgot he mentioned which drug!!!!!!!


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by diane101 (dianed101 @ yahoo.com) on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 07:30:41 PM EST
[ Parent ]
the issue is that Shaheen raised the issue of drug dealing, and then Penn raised it to cocaine dealing, which is a stereotype for young black men.  
by BooMan on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 09:14:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Just channel surfing and caught Mary Hart on ET (why do they still put her behind a glass desk?!) saying something about "Obama's cocaine past...."
by Second Nature (denn1214 at gmail) on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 07:34:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Mena, Arkansas. What's that duffel coming out of the sky?
by Bob In Pacifica on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 07:37:38 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I've been writing about Penn's type of behavior under the lede of FALSE CONTRITION. Penn's technique is to appear to dismiss the attacks on Obama -- thus flippantly walking away from the damage they may have done. Penn's second technique is use the topic as a pretext for making further charges, even while he purports to oppose this type of strategy.

Even though readers here are intelligent enough to understand these points without my help, I wanted to point out that it's this type of behavior that galvanized my opinion against the Clinton campaign. Rather than resorting to exotic theories about "Hillary haters" to dismiss any opposition, it would prudent of the Clinton campaign to acknowledge that these mistakes were part of their intentional strategy and then refrain from this tactic in the future.

"..the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. .. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked.." - Goering

by colinski on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 10:15:15 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I can tell that everyone who wrote comments here today are male.  Funny that.
by wasabi cat on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 07:12:15 PM EST
Um, not me. ;)
by Second Nature (denn1214 at gmail) on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 07:33:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Did my name give it away?

Or am I not allowed to discuss sexism?

by Bob In Pacifica on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 07:38:41 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Of course not, Bob. You know all boys are meanies. And double standards only apply when the girl is the victim. Boys aren't allowed to be offended when girls play victim and their daddies call up TV networks and scream at executives because some mean boy was a mean meanie to his daughter or wife.

Jeez, Bob. You're such a meanie. And a sexist too.

I'm so mad I could just cry. Which camera should I look at when I do it? Oh, that's right. I'm not a girl. Crying only works for girls. Damn!

by RandyH on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 07:46:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Boo.
by Second Nature (denn1214 at gmail) on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 07:54:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]
No, you're not. It's a girl thing, you wouldn't understand it.

"..the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. .. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked.." - Goering
by colinski on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 10:19:10 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I'm not surprised that David said this on Tucker's show, I suspect he was encouraged to be a bit slimy. He's normally a good reporter.
by shaej on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 07:49:47 PM EST
is apparently going to address the apology on his show.
by Second Nature (denn1214 at gmail) on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 08:03:05 PM EST
Is it me or do the Clintons just thrive in this type of political pie fight?  Hillary couldn't have picked a better issue.  She certainly didn't want it to be a debate over her foreign policy beliefs.  So we now have to stop all political debate to argue over the use of the word pimp and get to talk about how unfair the media is to the Clintons.  Jeez.  Shoot me now because I cannot take this if this is going to be "debate" during the general if Hillary is the nominee.  I tell you.  We are being held hostage while the baby boomers resolve their issues from high school.  Is lil' Bush and Rove going to win or will Bill and Hill finally prove that the baby boomers are progressives that made America safe for a right-leaning female corporate schill (what, should I have said "whore"?).
by SFHawkguy on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 08:39:12 PM EST
Yeah. We are on the verge of a number of primaries and caucuses in the next few days where Clinton is the underdog. Why talk about them? Let's talk about this sexual insult of the Clintons' daughter.

SFHawkguy, I've seen your name around. Doesn't matter what the logic is. Anything that can in any way be intrepeted as sexist is red meat for some Clinton supporters. (Is red meat sexist?) I've pointed out sexist insults coming out of the Clinton supporters but it's invisible to them.

So be it.

by Bob In Pacifica on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 09:04:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Let's compare apples and apples and check what I posted:
Then there's the hypocrisy from MSNBC.  As dnA over at Jack and Jill Politics posted, Pat Buchanan had this to say 2 week ago:
"in South Central L.A. [Los Angeles]" and "in the prisons" as evidence that tensions between African Americans and Latinos would affect voting in the Democratic primary. Buchanan said: "I regret to say you are mistaken about the African American community and the Hispanics. South Central L.A., there is a turf war going on. There's a war in the prisons." Buchanan continued, "People who don't understand that don't understand America, I'm sorry to say."

Go to Media Matters to watch that racist prick spew this.

Gee.  I don't remember...was Buchanan suspended for spouting this stuff?

No?  Well, that's not right...I'm sure the liberal blogosphere was just atwitter and besides themselves regarding Buchanan's statement.

No?

I wish I could say that I'm surprised.



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by fabooj (fabooj [at} mail [dot} com) on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 11:13:05 PM EST
Since there have been so many posts re Schusters comment and suspension, I doubt that this will get read but what the hell. By focusing on the Schuster comment, the focus has been once again be directed exactly the way the media heads want it to be. Wake up folks! If schusters comments are unnacceptable, what the hell do Matthews never ebnding slurs directed against women reflect? Or how about having on the variety of pigs and slanderers such as buchanan. This is pure and simple BULLSHIT! Schuster is the latest piece of meat needed to misdirect the anger!
His record of reportage has been so on target that he had become a threat! Pure and simple.
Its better to see that Nora bitch with here stupid laugh and her ridulous laugh or that Fox lineup of abhorrent group of pigs! Give me a break.
Now, msnbc can tout their desire to portray themselves and presenters of the news!
WAKE THE HELL UP and FOCUS!
All they did was get rid of a potential threat to their message!
by billjpa (billjpa@aol.com) on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 08:26:47 AM EST
So who is the whore?

Schuster is put on the tube based on nothing more than his abilities with his mouth. MSNBC could not make enough money pimping his sorry opinions and are now using this pathetic excuse to kick him into the gutter they got him from.

BLOCK FOX, MSNBC AND CNN!

I have had these three channels blocked from my TV for two years now and I have no lack of news. There are newspapers and the internet. Either of which are trying to shove their right-wing propaganda and hate-mongering down my throat.

The added benefit is that I no longer have the blood pressure problems I had when watching that fascist garbage each day.

by aahpat on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 09:37:25 AM EST
Shuster should iron Chelsea's shirts.

I'm running for the US Senate again, Wisconsin 2012.
by ben masel (bDESPAMmasel@tds.net) on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 12:12:39 PM EST


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