Tell her to call me when she or her mother or her grandmother had to either get off the sidewalk when a white person of either sex passed them, or if any of them had to give the correct number of bubbles on a bar of soap in order to vote. Then we can compare notes.

Dumb ass.

Can't hear ya, Peach!

This is Ferraro:

I just posted an entry about this.  After reading Ferraro's comments yesterday, I was livid.  I tried to post an entry didn't call her a 'motherfuckin' heifer' or other such phrases that litter my non-polite side.  I took a new tack and prevailed.  

But now, she's pulling a Rep. King and the Clinton campaign is accusing the Obama campaign of playing the race card.  

I'm hot ya'll.  My dreadlocks are steaming.

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When your enemy is busily engaged in making a mistake, get the hell out of their way.

I for one welcome our new Twitter overlords. @Omir55

No, Marge Schott, they're attacking you because you're saying bigoted stuff.  

I'm am so incredibly livid over that entire interview, the Mammy Maggie Williams memo and the fact that the Clinton's campaign had the nerve to ask that Powers be fired, yet won't do a damn thing about Ferraro, who they're now saying isn't part of the campaign.  

This is all utter horseshit.

Is this really how the Clinton's want to stir up the racist vote in the remaining states.  I do not find it sheer coincidence that this comes up the same day of the MS primary.  We should fully expect more of these sort of statements from surrogates.  As I posted on my blog:

The Clinton's campaign has now accused the Obama campaign of "playing the race card" over Ferraro's words.  Same shit, different day.  Didn't we watch this movie in January?  You know, back when Bill Clinton and their surrogates were dumping all kinds of racist buzzwords on airwaves and crazy-assed bloggers like SusanHu and <strike>Michelle Malkin</strike> Taylor Marsh were accusing the Obama campaign of playing the race card?

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The stupidity of Ferraro's ramblings is that there is both sexism and racism, and depending on individual circumtances, one can trump another.

Being an old union man (and believe me, I've seen plenty of both sexism and racism in unions so I'm not saying they are without sin) I go back to the saying, "An injury to one is an injury to all." When someone is wronged, you stand up for that person. If you stand around saying, "Yeah, but I really got screwed over worse," you never get anything done. This is the identical crap that Gloria Steinem said on the eve of the New Hampshire election. It gets you nowhere. I am sure right now that there are people on the web saying, "Women have it worse than black men." It's stupid. All this kind of talk does is to piss off people. It shows again how the Clinton camp thinks that dividing up the Democratic Party is good for her personal goals.

As a lifelong humanist who has ardently supported women's rights as a component of the social justice movement to come out of the 1960-70's,  have to say that I have never liked the feminist movement. It has divided the social justice movement and forced everyone else to put aside a pluralistic agenda in favor of the exclusive feminist agenda.

We have not talked about civil rights since the 1970's in America because we have been forced to talk about abortion and glass ceilings.

We have not talked about social justice because feminist Democrats like Hillary Clinton joined with the right-wing christian mommy state types who pushed authoritarian criminal justice as the way to solve social and public health problems in America.

Well I say, as a lifelong humanist who has ardently supported a pluralistic homo sapiens equality agenda, FUCK HILLARY CLINTON AND HER RIGHT-WING FEMINIST AUTHORITARIANS.

I'm sitting here trying to figure out whether I should post this, and how to introduce it & yadda yadda. Race is a factor in minority women & infant health. Mississippi, for example, has one of the highest infant mortality rates in the country — it's also "pro-life" (Red State Moral Values). Personally, I could care less if the next president is white, black, polka-dot, female, male or transgendered. Mississippi is a red state and therefore insignificant in some quarters; however, Mississippi was part of Dean's maiden tour as DNC chief.

Minority Women and Advocacy for Women's Health

There are profound differences in the outlook and relative political strength of the women's health and minority health movements, but, as with many social movements,9 both center around a theme of emancipation. With respect to gender, emancipation issues center around the effect of discrimination against women in patriarchal societies, regardless of class, caste, or other such considerations10--namely, "glass ceilings," voting rights, and pay equity in comparison with males, as well as reproductive rights, research equity, and access to and equity in health care.11 These gender issues are a rallying point for social or political action among minority women, but minority women also have issues related to race or ethnicity.12 White women have the luxury of being able to ignore racial biases13 and are free to focus exclusively (or almost so) on gender problems. In contrast, minority women experience and must simultaneously guard against both racism and sexism.14 These 2 forces, although similar in some respects, operate independently.8,15,16

White women have the advantage of understanding the dominant culture as well as sharing the obligations associated with participation in it.13 In this sense, the discussion of gender equity among White men and women is a negotiation among cultural equals--people who share a common language, norms, and values.16 Minority women--who have been distanced from the majority culture by history, language, religion, and other factors related to race and ethnicity--do not have the same stake in the majority culture12,17,18; they enter discussions of equity with an entirely different set of premises. For example, many minority women may perceive White women as having exploited the civil rights movement to achieve their own goals.14,19 In addition, middle-class minority women may experience pressure to become assimilated into the dominant culture while also continuing to face reminders of their exclusion from it,20,21 which hinders their sense of commonality with White women.

http://www.americablog.com/2008/03/ferraro-did-it-again-two-weeks-ago.html

February 27, 2008:

FERRARO: If Barack Obama were a white man, would we be talking about this as a potential real problem for Hillary?

If he were a woman...

GIBSON: You mean if he were John Edwards?

FERRARO: If he were a woman of any color, would he be in this position that he's in, absolutely not.

and

March 10, 2008:

If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept.

Yup.  Kos and Americablog have dug up some nice pairs of identical phrases... which means that she memorized these racist digs and waits for a chance to insert them.  Accidental?  My left foot!

:pfffft!:

Ferraro is on Clinton's Finance Committee and ought to be repudiated instead of shoved out with her pre-taped message.  (My mental image is of a Chatty Cathy doll with a pull-cord and some catch phrases.)  Somebody ought to ask who gave Ferraro this message to broadcast?  Penn?

She comes across as extremely jealous and bitter.  Given her own lack of appeal as a candidate, that is perhaps understandable.

It wouldn't be nice, but if Clinton has all that executive experience through sharing a bed with Bill, does Ferraro have mobster experience because of who she shared a bed with?  Osmosis through marriage ought to work all the time, if it works for Clinton.

I have seen variations of this in YOUR comment sections. That sexism is worse than racism in America, and because of that Clintons female supporters were just as likely to be discouraged as Obama's black supporters.

I don't buy it. Sexism is a subtle, terrible thing, but racism is institutionalized by in many cases, the government, both local and national.

And it is ongoing.

By this I mean that many African Americans have actually SEEN 'back door' deals that have the intent of excluding them. Not many voter ID laws or gerrymandered districts are meant to exclude women. No, these are things that are done with a wink to exclude people of color.

She should STFU.

nalbar

   Oh now I see where the whole experience deal was going. It didn't make sense that Clinton would make an issue of this being that she visited 80 countries basically as a tourist. The whole bloody thing is designed to bring forth an affirmative action backlash from us white people.
   Guess what I ain't buying it. Barack Obama is experienced, smart and can make the correct decisions on the first try. He does not have to go back and lie or apologize for his record. Many exceptional people do not. Barack is not the second coming but he is head and shoulders above the rest of the entire field of presidential candidates in the 2008 primaries. To even say race has anything to do with it shows an ignorance of where this country is right now and who has been vying to lead it.
   Can we please have a competent and clean(unsoiled by the political process, thank you) candidate as our nominee without him being trashed with a bunch of BULLSHIT. Please!!!

P.S. Ferraro you can kiss my white Obama supporting ass.

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; now we know that it is bad economics;" - Franklin Delano Roosevelt

I agree with dnA at Too Sense Halfricanrevolution that
Obama should turn his back on Ferraro.

Obama and Ferraro

 "It does not matter if he's right....white folks watching the argument will side with her, and think your efforts to avoid gratuitously talking about race are insincere. They also will see you as playing the victim.

Racism is a part of life in America."

Drop it before he's accused of whistling at her." aka Emmett Till.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

Being from NY this Ferraro crap doesn't surprise me....She and her ilk, including her family are from the old time CRIMINAL wing of the Dem party in NY...in cahoots with the ReTHUG Molinari's et al......
She is an abomination and not very bright...she is best friends with John Gibson and wife of Fixed News,...need I say more???

Boo,

Let her keep digging holes for the Clinton campaign.
Maggie Williams is helping too. First,  she defended the African garb photo dump and now she is accusing the Obama campaign of turning Geraldine's comments into a racial issue.
Last night Lanny Davis even tried to ask why Obama was so angry.
These poor folks can't decide if they should scratch their watches or wind their butts because Obama has not been turned into the Angry Black Man in the minds of Americans no matter what they do.

Another thing about the Ferraro comments I forgot to mention: I think it's fairly clear that Clinton is using Ferraro in a very targeted way (despite the jaw-dropping broadsides Ferraro's been spewing)--and that is to try (I think) to shore up some of her core female support. Obama has been shown, most noticeably to me in Wisconsin, to be eating into Clinton's female vote. This Ferraro stuff looks like thinly-veiled code to me. I think if I were Clinton, I too might be tempted to sling double
handfuls of whatever I could against the wall and hope something sticks before it slides. But again, this seems specifically aimed at Hillary's wavering women supporters. Don't remember what the Ohio breakdowns said about Hillary's support among women, though.  

what surprises me is that she hasn't been fired by the Clinton campaign yet. 24 hours and no decisive decision from Hillary, doesn't make Hillary look like she's ready to lead on "day one".

On possibly offending women.  I've got no quarrel with people who support Mrs Clinton for her policies, most of which with the major and determining one of her vote on Iraq, I can live with.  I quarrel with those who want her because she's a woman, and that somehow breaking the glass ceiling trumps all other concerns.  This makes her a one-issue candidate, no better than the candidate who gets the fundies for his or her opposition to abortion.  We are in a situation far too deadly to have our election turn on important but in the present context, secondary matters.

Let's bite another bullet.  Would you rather have a court that supported free choice or a court that supports the 1st, 4th and 5th amendment?  Some people would go for free choice.  It's a matter of proportion, and people who vote for a person solely because she is a woman lack it.  It ends up not being about the res publica; it's ultimately all about them.  American narcissism.  It's our national trait, and the whole world knows it.

Knut

All of this negativity is trickling down to ordinary folks who vote the Democratic ticket.  Just today, I was talking with a fellow teacher who follows politics with interest and has been an active member of our union. He said that if the superdelagates chose her, he would not vote at all.

Visit me at Tunnel Traveller

BTW, re: offending--

I hope I won't offend any women if I say that Geraldine Ferraro needs to Shut the Fuck Up.

Well you might offend at least one or two women, which is OK, since women are allowed to think differently ;-), and both Clinton and Ferraro might benefit from reading your post!!

Whatever Ferraro's intent, and to me she sounds pretty prejudiced, what does this say about Clinton's leadership abilities?  One of Obama's top people goes off message -- she's gone.  I might disagree, but it shows they have their sh*t together.  Either the Clinton campaign does not (maybe too much winding-- thank you Cee!), or they are race-baiting... or both of the above are true.

Sad.  
And speaks very badly of Clinton's ability to lead on day anything!

I was so glad to see Virginians (incl esp White Virginians) reject this garbage...  Hope that Pennsylvanians will, too.

Sketched out timeline showing how racism issue emerged  (please add links). But... I'm starting to see how racism/sexism hides a bigger issue: The Youth Vote and its impact. Jim Demers said if Obama wins "it would be the first time since the Vietnam War that the youth vote made a difference". Highly recommend Does Barack Obama's Youth Vote Signal A Generational & Political Shift?, which points out how the Millennials "would be a Hero generation and aligned with the WWII-era GI generation" (& with that i'd read 'The Calling' by General Tony Zinni in Tom Clancy's Battle Ready).

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I intend to start searching for articles on Ferraro's husband.  As I recall, he was both a slumlord and a hobnobber with mobsters.

Anyone recall how and why she was chosen for the vp slot, other than as something of a giimmick?  She wasn't a woman of accomplishment then and certainly isn't now.

We have/did have women like Pat Schroeder, Elizabeth Edwards, Barbara Boxer, Barbara Jordan, Ann Richards, et al.  Please add to this list.  Let's see how many fully qualified, ethical, capable women we can come up with.

I wouldn't assume that Ferraro hasn't helped the Clinton somewhat, and in a very perverse way. The offended are not the target, and there's a very large contingent who do believe that whites are discriminated against.

See Flight of the White Male: http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=68225069-3048-5C12-00FA02842EFBC1AA

Also see Southern Discomfort: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1746343/posts

"..the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. .. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked.." - Goering

The problem with the use of Ferraro is that most people who remember who she was remember that her husband was mobbed and she brought nothing to the ticket in '84. It's not that there are huge Ferraro fan clubs. She couldn't get elected to any office, even in New York, after '84.

So I'm not sure that she'll really pull that many votes Clinton's way, at least if Obama's team plays it right.

For ex, does anyone think that anyone even likes Ferraro in central Pennsylvania? That's if they remember who the hell she is.

the Clinton campaign strategy is to repeat over and over again, "hey folks, look at Obama...he's a black guy...not one of us!"
"he's black....just wanna remind you."

these are not mistakes... they are doing this on purpose...telling us again and again that Obama is black, just in case we hadn't heard.

The sleep of reason begets tyrants. -Goya

I'm just trying to grapple with what Geraldine Ferraro is saying. I mean, wow. Demetrius, as an African American man, has obviously caught every break in life, whereas I, as a white woman have been downtrodden and oppressed.

I think I shall have to be rather miffed about this. But I don't know how I'm supposed to respond. I mean, my first instinct is to start belting out "We shall overcome..." But that's one of their songs, isn't it? Drat, drat, drat!

Nah, I just can't do this. I say this sort of total bullsh*t with a straight face.

I bow to Geraldine Ferraro and concede her superior skill in that particular art...

Sad thing is, she may not even get that that her comment was racist. And she doesn't get that people are inspired by Obama's message of hope and change and a new way of doing things. That's what I support. I wouldn't care if he were green with purple polka dots. (Well maybe not the polka dots.)

I have a question I've been wanting to ask someone, and it is in all sincerity - I'm not trying to be flip. I'm really curious.

Why is Barack Obama considered black? What are the criteria. Is it because his skin is darker (so are Latinos or Middle Eastern or Indian) or is it something HE decided? Or what?  He is also half white - he was born to a white mother.

And so aren't people then also being racist against white people too? He is both. I recently read he's part Irish. So here's to O'bama.

You just don't get it, Boo.  Geraldine Ferraro is "very imporw'nt on Longue Island," and if she says Negroes have it easy in America, it must be true.

Or something.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to you country.