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Mississippi Returns Thread

by BooMan
Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 08:00:08 PM EST

Look at the people that support torture. I gotta wonder what Dennis Kucinich and Maxine Waters were thinking. They're concern trolls...or something.

There's a special election in Indianapolis (IN-07) today to keep an eye on.

CNN returns for Mississippi are here.

Update [2008-3-11 20:34:45 by BooMan]: MSNBC called it for Obama after a polite fifteen minutes. Still no returns in. Exit Polls are here.

Mississippi Returns Thread | 67 comments (67 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Mississippi Returns Thread (4.00 / 2)

/Hijack

Everyone set your TIVO, KO said there will be a special commentary on the Clinton campaign tomorrow night.

/Hijack off

"Some men see things as they are and say why - I dream things that never were and say why not." George Bernard Shaw.

by benjamink on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 09:01:16 PM EST

Re: Mississippi Returns Thread (none / 0)

Can't wait for that. I hope it'll be spittle-flecked!

by Sprocket77 on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 09:27:10 PM EST
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Re: Mississippi Returns Thread (none / 0)

By tomorrow, do you mean Wednesday? Time? We watch so little TV, we need all the help we can get to follow these things.

by Heart of the Rockies on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 10:35:09 PM EST
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Re: Mississippi Returns Thread (none / 1)

How can Mississippi be "too early to call"? Do they need to wait to see if Obama's lead goes down??

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 08:07:35 PM EST

Re: Mississippi Returns Thread (none / 0)

maybe a time zone diff.

also the media likes drama and eyeballs. If they call it too early, ratings decline....gotta keep these primaries going. good for revenues...so they distort that it'll be a brokered convention - it's a tied race.

Btw CNN: Obama is leading Hillary

MSNBC: Obama battles Clinton for Mississippi

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 08:19:49 PM EST
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Re: Mississippi Returns Thread (none / 1)

What's the joke? Mississippi is in two time zones: 1938 and 1952.

by Bob In Pacifica on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 08:23:34 PM EST
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Re: Mississippi Returns Thread (none / 1)

Btw - check out how CNN is sneaking info that Obama won Texas into its Mississippi victory piece:

(CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama will win Mississippi's Democratic primary, CNN projects.
Obama will also finish first in the Texas Democratic caucuses, which were held last week.
He will get more delegates out of the state than rival Sen. Hillary Clinton, who won the state's primary.

Nice!

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 10:05:51 PM EST
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Re: Mississippi Returns Thread (none / 1)

Mississippi called for Obama by MSNBC.

Vote by Party and Race
Obama
White Democrats (24%)
Clinton 74%
Obama 24%
White Independents (13%)
Clinton 59%
Obama 39%
Black Democrats (44%)
Clinton 10%
Obama 90%
All Republicans (13%)
Clinton 78%
Obama 22%

by BooMan on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 08:22:57 PM EST

Re: Mississippi Returns Thread (none / 0)

Not a surprise that Republicans favor Clinton!

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 08:24:44 PM EST
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Re: Mississippi Returns Thread (none / 0)

I get home late and I miss the call. oh well.

On to PA.

by maryb2004 on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 08:27:30 PM EST
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78% Republicans (none / 0)

They must really, really want her in the general.

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by fabooj (fabooj [at} mail [dot} com) on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 08:28:32 PM EST
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Re: 78% Republicans (none / 0)

I would, if I were them. Either way, Republicans win. If she's in the race and they defeat her, woohoo. If she's in the race and they don't defeat her, she kills her party for them anyway. Woohoo either way.

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 08:29:58 PM EST
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Re: Mississippi Returns Thread (none / 0)

So Mississippi was an open primary?

by Bob In Pacifica on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 10:39:18 PM EST
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Yup. Looks like it got the Rush treatment from the Republican stats.

by RandyH on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 10:40:43 PM EST
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Black vote: Obama 91% Clinton 9%.

If Clinton got 91% of the white vote Obama supporters would say it was "racism".

by Ed J on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 08:24:22 PM EST

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It's one thing to want to vote for one of your own.

That's a different thing than not voting for someone who is not one of your own solely because of their race.

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 08:25:42 PM EST
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Re: Mississippi Returns Thread (none / 0)

To Clarify, a Red Sox fan would not be accused of racism if they attended a Red Sox game facing an all-white team. But a Red Sox fan WOULD be accused of racism if they refused to attend a Red Sox game facing an all-black team. Slight but important difference.

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 08:28:47 PM EST
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Re: Mississippi Returns Thread (none / 0)

Frank Malzone.

by Bob In Pacifica on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 09:42:40 PM EST
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I hadn't quite thought of it this way, but this is a profound statement.

by Heart of the Rockies on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 10:40:06 PM EST
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Re: Mississippi Returns Thread (none / 0)

Thanks!

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Thu Mar 13th, 2008 at 01:23:47 AM EST
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Bullshit (none / 0)

I can look at OH and see that 80% of the white voters who said that race was a factor voted for Clinton and can see that that's racism. I can not look at Clinton getting 70% of the white vote any where and say 'racism' because I don't know the motivation.

By your logic, Clinton winning the majority of women means they're sexist and her garnering old people means that they're ageist.

Like I said: bullshit.

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by fabooj (fabooj [at} mail [dot} com) on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 08:31:08 PM EST
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Re: Bullshit (none / 0)

Exactly. But gender is a big part of why people vote for Clinton, and race is a big part of why people vote for Obama. But it's because they identify with those characteristics, not because they hate the opposing forces. I don't think most women vote for Hillary because they hate men! ;-)

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 08:32:53 PM EST
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Re: Bullshit (none / 0)

Are you sure about that last part? ;)

"Little people are very stuff-intensive."

by CabinGirl on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 08:37:14 PM EST
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Re: Bullshit (none / 0)

I guess I underestimate the depth of women's anger towards men, eh?

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Thu Mar 13th, 2008 at 01:22:35 AM EST
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Re: Bullshit (none / 0)

From what I saw at our caucuses--disappointment, antipathy, bad experiences with men--all played a larger role than one would like.

by Heart of the Rockies on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 10:41:39 PM EST
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91% isn't a "majority". (none / 0)

It's virtual unanimity. If Clinton got 91 out of every hundred female votes I'd say it was sexism. But that hasn't happened.

by Ed J on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 08:35:48 PM EST
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Re: 91% isn't a "majority". (4.00 / 2)

so, not voting for a campaign that repeatedly insults your racial sensitivities is racist?

An amazing Clintonian inversion of reality.

by BooMan on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 08:37:42 PM EST
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Painting Hillary Clinton as a racist... (none / 0)

is beyond ridiculous. Do you believe the "3 am" ad was "racist", as some were suggesting today?

by Ed J on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 08:42:35 PM EST
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Re: Painting Hillary Clinton as a racist... (none / 1)

Her campaign is racial. At this point even Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow are saying it.

by BooMan on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 09:01:33 PM EST
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Re: Painting Hillary Clinton as a racist... (none / 0)

Before that, Howard Fineman was on and he's convinced that the Clinton campaign sent Ferraro out to say what she did.

by Second Nature (denn1214 at gmail) on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 09:06:36 PM EST
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Re: Painting Hillary Clinton as a racist... (none / 1)

Yep I know PA...went to school there.

HRC should win handily there. They'll buy into Ferraro. And Bill Clinton has landed telling seniors Hillary needs a big win in PA just like TX and OH.

A horror movie that should have ended loong ago. They're both writing their exits.

Maybe if Spitzer resigns they may throw their sights on the gov's job.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 09:18:05 PM EST
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Re: Painting Hillary Clinton as a racist... (none / 0)

Bill says that Hillary needs a BIG victory in Pennsylvania. That means she needs to win big in the middle part of the state. Ferraro's comments are aimed right there at all the lower income/ less educated white people who believe that white people are discriminated when they speak the 'truth' about how blacks get better treatment etc. All this play that her remarks are getting tonight is a gold mine for Hillary with respect to that audience.

But in the end - I think it will further turn off the superdelegates from the west and upper midwest.

by maryb2004 on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 09:19:15 PM EST
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Re: Painting Hillary Clinton as a racist... (none / 0)

Yep, they keep rolling out that old "PA is Pittsburgh in the west, Philadelphia in the east and (white) Alabama in the middle." Ferraro's comments are directed at Alabama.

by Second Nature (denn1214 at gmail) on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 09:25:45 PM EST
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Re: Painting Hillary Clinton as a racist... (none / 1)

I also think they put Ferraro out there in the hope that somebody actually in the Obama campaign would say out loud and on television what everyone else in the world has been saying - that Geraldine was a token women on a Democratic ticket. Then she and Hillary and their supporters can yell SEXISM!!!!

As far as I can tell, the Obama camp has been pretty disciplined and not pointed out the irony of Geraldine Ferraro saying all of this.

by maryb2004 on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 09:31:27 PM EST
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Re: Painting Hillary Clinton as a racist... (none / 1)

oh, and doing this during the Mississippi Primary is rich.

Geraldine Ferraro was picked to be the VP for Walter Mondale.

Walter Mondale was picked by Hubert Humphrey to mediate a dispute over the seating of a delegation at the 1964 Democratic convention.

The delegation was the racist Mississippi delegation which was being challenged by the Black Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party. Let's just say, the black delegation wasn't seated at the convention.

Don't tell me this whole thing wasn't planned.

by maryb2004 on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 09:42:35 PM EST
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Re: Painting Hillary Clinton as a racist... (none / 0)

Of course, it was planned.

by Bob In Pacifica on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 09:45:55 PM EST
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Re: Painting Hillary Clinton as a racist... (none / 0)

I'm personally convinced they deliberately turned her loose to do exactly what she's done--she's pretty much wall-to-wall leading right into a racially sensitive southern primary crucial to Obama for "regaining" perceptual momentum. And it's not like Ferraro has to worry about flushing her "revered party elder" status down the crapper. Nobody's seen her for the last 20 years. She's got nothing to lose except her self-respect.

by Sprocket77 on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 09:23:47 PM EST
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Re: Painting Hillary Clinton as a racist... (none / 1)

well, what do you know. Ain't this something:

Kos dug up some old Geraldine Ferraro stuff in Wapo. Her bona fides going back to 1988.

She's a certified racist with a long history of this shit

And former representative Geraldine A. Ferraro (D-N.Y.) said Wednesday that because of his "radical" views, "if Jesse Jackson were not black, he wouldn't be in the race."
Asked about this at a campaign stop in Buffalo, Jackson at first seemed ready to pounce fiercely on his critics. But then he stopped, took a breath, and said quietly, "Millions of Americans have a point of view different from" Ferraro's.
Discussing the same point in Washington, Jackson said, "We campaigned across the South . . . without a single catcall or boo. It was not until we got North to New York that we began to hear this from Koch, President Reagan and then Mrs. Ferraro . . . . Some people are making hysteria while I'm making history."
(emphasis added, can't be helped.)

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 09:41:16 PM EST
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Re: Painting Hillary Clinton as a racist... (4.00 / 2)

dammmmmmmmmmmmmmn.

by BooMan on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 09:43:20 PM EST
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Aw suki suki, now! (none / 1)

Fuck a duck...there's no second guessing this one. That was Ferraro's role. And once again, the Clinton's don't understand the power of the internet.

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by fabooj (fabooj [at} mail [dot} com) on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 10:12:39 PM EST
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Re: Aw suki suki, now! (4.00 / 2)

Someone in the MSM needs to interview Ferraro and trot out that quote about Jackson, just to get it out there. The average American might be slow, but a lot of us can pick out patterns when they're pointed out to us.

I for one welcome our new Twitter overlords. @Omir55

by Omir the Storyteller (omir.the.storyteller -CAT- gmail -DOG- com) on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 10:31:43 PM EST
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Re: Aw suki suki, now! (4.00 / 2)

And they should get a few interns to review everything in LexisNexis said by her during the Mondale Ferraro campaign as well. They will probably find many instances.

by RandyH on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 10:36:49 PM EST
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Re: Aw suki suki, now! (4.00 / 2)

There ya go. Establish the pattern. And while they're at it maybe they should look up a few more quotes from other Hillary surrogates, and maybe even from Herself.

I for one welcome our new Twitter overlords. @Omir55

by Omir the Storyteller (omir.the.storyteller -CAT- gmail -DOG- com) on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 10:41:38 PM EST
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Re: Painting Hillary Clinton as a racist... (none / 0)

I can't help noting that a lot of CIA folks are hoping Hillary wins. ;-)

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 10:07:02 PM EST
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Re: Painting Hillary Clinton as a racist... (none / 0)

like who (other than Larry)?

by BooMan on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 10:08:12 PM EST
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Re: Painting Hillary Clinton as a racist... (none / 0)

Pat Lang.

"..the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. .. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked.." - Goering

by colinski on Wed Mar 12th, 2008 at 02:41:12 AM EST
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Fine (none / 0)

But here I am, black as could be...if lived in MS and were sitting on the fence, and heard Ferraro's remarks this morning. You can bet my black ass would be voting for Obama. Not because he's black, but because it's clear the Clinton's use race-baiting tactics.

Last night, I made phone calls and sent emails to my kin down in Mississippi, urging them to vote for Obama. After extolling the virtures of Obama, some of them were still going to vote for Clinton. All I had to do was mention all the race-baiting from the Clinton's. One of my cousins jokingly said, "Why you bringin' up old shit?" I pointed him to Ferraro's remarks from yesterday and that was all it took.

So you can call it racism if you'd like, but why should we have to vote for racists?

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by fabooj (fabooj [at} mail [dot} com) on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 08:46:10 PM EST
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I voted to put Clinton in the Senate. (none / 0)

Her stance on Iraq caused me to vow never to vote for her again. But calling her a racist is just plain stupid.

by Ed J on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 08:55:25 PM EST
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Whatever (none / 0)

This is the same bullshit the Clinton's pulled back in '92. Only difference, instead of slow-assed BBS, we got high-speed internet and a lot more people are online.

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by fabooj (fabooj [at} mail [dot} com) on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 10:15:12 PM EST
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Re: 91% isn't a "majority". (none / 0)

Hey Ed J

Hillary has played the race card, gender card ,the victim card-poor cheated wife card, and exaggerated her experience b/c she watched Bill do the presidency.

I'll give her some credit. She stood by her man.

On second thought, I take that back. Looks like she made a deal with Bill after the Monica thingy... something akin to this:

I'll stand by you but you'll atone to me, show me how sorry you are when I run for the presidency.

Guess what?

Bill has been marvelous: See dear how sorry I've been, I've been stumping the country and hurled a lot of racial slurs and mud, all for you, b/c I'm sooooo sorry.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 08:56:11 PM EST
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Re: Bullshit (none / 0)

The problem with the questions are that they are vague. If you ask did you vote for Clinton? Did you vote for her because she was white and Obama was black? You could follow up with do you think that blacks are unqualified for being President. Those kinds of questions pretty much answer what you wonder. Unfortunately, it's considered rude to ask those kinds of questions.

by Bob In Pacifica on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 10:43:25 PM EST
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Re: Mississippi Returns Thread (none / 0)

I seem to remember a time several years ago when the black polls were the first to show dissatisfaction w/Bush as in a 10% approval. Perhaps sexism, racism or whateverisms overlooks old fashioned wisdom on the part of black voters. just sayin

by mainsailset on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 08:42:38 PM EST

Re: Mississippi Returns Thread (none / 0)

What's the delegate spread look like, Booman?

by Bob In Pacifica on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 09:48:52 PM EST

Re: Mississippi Returns Thread (none / 0)

he's looking pretty good in the 3rd and 4th. The 1st is iffy. He might pull the 4th and the 1st.

Lemme see.

Right now he is not on pace to break 59.9%, but that could definitely change.

too close to call
5-2 Obama
3-2 Obama
3-2 Obama

At-large: 6-5 Obama

So, right now, either 20-13 or 19-14.

If he goes over 59.9% he might scratch another delegate out.

by BooMan on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 09:59:51 PM EST
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Meanwhile, Back In Indiana IN-7 (none / 0)

Julia Carson's grandson Andre takes the lead with just over half the precincts in:

With 51.2 percent of the 7th Congressional District's precincts reporting, Democrat Andre Carson led with 50.2 percent of the vote. State Rep. Jon Elrod had 46.8 percent, and Sean Shepard, a Libertarian, had 3 percent

Carson's opponent, Republican Jon Elrod has recently had some interesting spelling difficulties with his campaign advertising pieces.

"I never trust people who don't laugh." Maya Angelou, March 5, 2009

by Indianadem on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 09:58:49 PM EST

Re: Mississippi Returns Thread (none / 0)

Al Giordano over at The Field is saying things are looking So good for Obama here in MS that he (Giordano) might have to eat his 17-16 pledged delegate split prediction. The numbers look so strong that "that would likely kick the 1st and 3rd CDs into the Obama column… and maybe even the 4th". I'm in the 4th, so that's good. Hillary was predicted to take it. All based on exit polling, but a very good sign.

by Sprocket77 on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 10:02:38 PM EST

Re: Mississippi Returns Thread (none / 0)

what is up with the northeast corner of your state?

In Tishomingo Co.

Clinton 1,216 83%
Obama 187 13%

by BooMan on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 10:06:41 PM EST
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Re: Mississippi Returns Thread (none / 0)

It's about 95% white, probably 5% black (or less), BooMan. No lie. That's disappointing, but anticipated.

by Sprocket77 on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 10:13:27 PM EST
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Re: Mississippi Returns Thread (none / 0)

Obama's getting scary close to 60% (close to 58%) here in MS with about 57% reporting. I think he MIGHT just get that extra delegate yet.

by Sprocket77 on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 10:26:44 PM EST

Just got home from work (none / 0)

Am I missing anything on MSNBC?

I for one welcome our new Twitter overlords. @Omir55

by Omir the Storyteller (omir.the.storyteller -CAT- gmail -DOG- com) on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 10:28:27 PM EST

Re: Just got home from work (none / 0)

The Obama interview at the top of the hour was good, but the rest has been Chris Mathews babbling on. Just okay really.

by RandyH on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 10:38:54 PM EST
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Some Interesting Hillary Strongholds (none / 0)

Neshoba County 83% reporting (County seat is ironically named Philadelphia)

Clinton 653 (54%)
Obama 515 (42%)
______
McCain 1043 (84%)
Huckabee 133 (11%)
Paul 16 (1%)

Pearl River County 82% reporting
Clinton 2222 (73%)
Obama 750 (25%)
______
McCain 1012 (72%)
Huckabee 209 (15%)
Paul 126 (9%)

50 states, 210 media market, 435 Congressional Districts, 3080 counties, 192,480 precincts

by TarheelDem on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 10:33:10 PM EST

Re: Some Interesting Hillary Strongholds (none / 0)

Philadelphia, Mississippi. Three freedom riders were killed there back in 1964.

by Bob In Pacifica on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 10:47:25 PM EST
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Re: Southern Strategy (none / 0)

Reagan kicked off his Presidential campaign near there with comments about "state's rights." In case anyone is unfamiliar with the expression, it was the rallying cry behind the segregation movement. Lee Atwater described the strategy after he developed a terminal disease and experienced a religious conversion.

See what Atwater said, it's very interesting and revealing. I'd post it but it uses the 'n' word.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

On August 4, 1980, Ronald Reagan began his presidential campaign with a speech near Philadelphia, Mississippi at the annual Neshoba County Fair. During the speech, Reagan told the crowd, "Programs like education and others should be turned back to the states and local communities with the tax sources to fund them. I believe in states' rights. I believe in people doing as much as they can at the community level and the private level."[8] He went on to promise to "restore to states and local governments the power that properly belongs to them." --from Wikipedia

"..the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. .. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked.." - Goering

by colinski on Wed Mar 12th, 2008 at 03:36:22 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Neshoba - Not a Hillary stronghold (none / 0)

Neshoba County results, a squeaker for Obama on Dem side.

Barack Obama 1412 (51%)
Hillary Clinton 1245 (45%)
__________

John McCain 1896 (84%)
Mike Huckabee 250 (11%)
Ron Paul 33 (1%)

100% of precincts reporting

50 states, 210 media market, 435 Congressional Districts, 3080 counties, 192,480 precincts

by TarheelDem on Wed Mar 12th, 2008 at 05:30:32 PM EST
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IN-7 Seat Safe (none / 0)

Nice margin too.

The Associated Press has projected that the grandson of the late U.S. Rep. Julia Carson will win Tuesday's special election to succeed her in Congress.
With 73.5 percent of the 7th Congressional District's precincts reporting, Democrat Andre Carson led with 52.8 percent of the vote. State Rep. Jon Elrod had 44.2 percent, and Sean Shepard, a Libertarian, had 3 percent.

"I never trust people who don't laugh." Maya Angelou, March 5, 2009

by Indianadem on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 10:47:42 PM EST

Jeff Davis County (none / 0)

How awesome would it be if Barack won a county named for the president of the Confederacy?

"Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." - Malcolm X

by Woodpecker on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 at 10:47:59 PM EST

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The Worst Hard Time: The Untold Story of Those Who Survived the Great American Dust Bowl
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Journalistas: 100 Years of the Best Writing and Reporting by Women Journalists by Eleanor Mills * NYT review

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1491: New Revelations of the Americas before Columbus

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The Price of Privilege:

How Parental Pressure and
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by Madeline Levine

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