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Big Donor Blackmail

by BooMan
Wed Mar 26th, 2008 at 08:26:21 PM EST

Regular readers know that I long ago began arguing that it was the wrong approach to base your primary decision on policy grounds. That might be appropriate when your choices include Jimmy Carter and Scoop Jackson, but Obama and Clinton are peddling pretty much the same load of poll-tested tepid and unambitious crap. Better, by far, to look at their advisers and the major financial people, and the way they run and conduct their respective campaigns. To that end, this should help you make up your mind.



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HRC is obviously working overtime calling in all her favors.

Fear will keep the local systems in line. -Grand Moff Tarkin Survivor Left Blogistan
by boran2 (blogistan@yahoo.com) on Wed Mar 26th, 2008 at 08:42:59 PM EST
She doesn't have to. They didn't give her that money for nothing. They wanted favors - favors they won't get from Obama. They're pissed. GOOD.

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes
by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Wed Mar 26th, 2008 at 09:21:31 PM EST
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She's insane.  Another Dick Cheney muttering "So?" into the crowds.

I'll say it again:

Obama Builds, Clinton Breaks.

by Tehanu on Wed Mar 26th, 2008 at 09:11:31 PM EST
if we can't have it neither will you.

dumb move. The Financial Times nailed it many months ago.  

Bill and Hillary Clintons' shenanigans in this campaign will damage future business relationships with titans of industry. The Clinton Global Initiative and THe Clinton Foundation will suffer the consequences...there's an undercurrent of disgust. Decent, fair - minded men and women are appalled at the former President and First Lady of the United States of America carrying on like common thugs. Not even in a banana republic do you expect to see such a spectacle.

Hillary is damaged goods for whatever political office she may aspire in the future.  This letter by her power donors serves only to re-enforce her negatives.


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As expected, one of the two major Democratic candidates saw a downturn in the latest NBC/WSJ poll, but it's not the candidate that you think. Hillary Clinton is sporting the lowest personal ratings of the campaign. Moreover, her 37 percent positive rating is the lowest the NBC/WSJ poll has recorded since March 2001, two months after she was elected to the U.S. Senate from New York.[.]

As for the damage this controversy did or didn't do to Obama, it's a mixed bag. Yes, Obama saw some of his numbers go down slightly among certain voting groups, most notably Republicans. But he's still much more competitive with independent voters when matched up against John McCain than Hillary Clinton is. And he still sports a net-positive personal rating of 49-32, which is down only slightly from two weeks ago, when it was 51-28. Again, the biggest shift in those negative numbers were among Republicans.[.]

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Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"
by idredit on Wed Mar 26th, 2008 at 09:23:26 PM EST
Al Giordano thinks Pelosi herself leaked their "written temper tantrum" to the blogosphere in order to show these thugs that she won't be intimidated by them.

If so, good for her.

by RandyH on Wed Mar 26th, 2008 at 09:54:46 PM EST
I saw this coming a month back. People like the head of the California Democratic Party, Art Torres, was saying, Yeah, well, let's wrap this up... will of the people... etc. It didn't take much reading between the lines to see that a lot of Dem leaders want this wrapped up. Considering that a lot of the Clinton backers are tapped out to the legal limit, and reports seem to indicate that Clinton's campaign is pretty much in the red, I can understand their anger at not being ambassador to Belgium or whatever.
by Bob In Pacifica on Wed Mar 26th, 2008 at 11:16:37 PM EST
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Horrible to say, but this is A*P*C at work.  When is the United States going to get the Israeli monkey off its back?

Knut
by Knut Wicksell (b_didnn@hotmail.ca) on Wed Mar 26th, 2008 at 09:39:03 PM EST
care to back that up with any links?
by BooMan on Wed Mar 26th, 2008 at 09:48:02 PM EST
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i usually stay well out of the way whenever anyone mentions aipac or israel, but i just saw this current frontpager at open left which suggests that this connection may not be completely out in left field ...

i'm glad you asked
by aarrgghh on Wed Mar 26th, 2008 at 10:36:26 PM EST
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Patricof was threatening the Dems a week or so back, over the Florida primary crap.
by Bob In Pacifica on Wed Mar 26th, 2008 at 11:09:52 PM EST
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Basically, the post notes that a minority of the donors in question are Lieberman supporters, and of those a couple are known to be pro-Israel hawks. Nothing new and certainly nothing surprising. That the Clintons belong to the pro-Israel hawk wing of the party is not news, nor have they ever shown any disinclination to accept funding from foreign sources or their domestic allies in general.

Israeli participation in American politics is generally pretty much out in the open for anyone to see. Even the heavy-handed way our domestic Likudniks go about smearing and silencing critics of Israel is quite open and transparent, and none of it could happen if there weren't a large majority of Americans who are sympathetic to Israel.

Mind you, I'm personally only sympathetic to Israel in contrast to, let's say, Hamas, but there is no conspiracy here. The neocons in the State Department may be another matter, but cronyism is relatively safe. The Israelis know that the fallout from getting caught with their thumb on the election scales would far outweigh any benefit they could derive from it.

---Thanks to Anna in Philly, I've lost my appetite for edible panties.

by eodell (eodell at naqada dot org) on Wed Mar 26th, 2008 at 11:21:57 PM EST
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I also see this as an attempt to blackmail the Speaker of the House. I really hope Pelosi tells them, and I must quote Roy Edroso from one of the most obviously late night drunken rants I've ever read, 'Go take a flying fuck at a rolling donut'. I don't even want to imagine what Steve Gilliard would have to say about this, but I know he'd be pissed.

 

by mikefromtexas on Thu Mar 27th, 2008 at 06:39:12 AM EST
Philly local Dem Marc Aronchick is the first signatory to that letter.  I think I may have met him once briefly at some event, but don't have enough knowledge to make an informed opinion about him.  As I wrote over at dkos, I do know...
He's hosted Jim Dean and DFA events at his house.  He's supported a local progressive [Tony Payton] against the Philly Democratic machine candidate for PA State House.

He's hosted events for Congressional candidates with Adam Bonin.  His firm has hosted events with Barney Frank and Joe Sestak.  He was part of a fundraiser for Lois Murphy and Pat Murphy which featured Obama as the special guest.

Wow, is all I can say...

What's the story here?  Was he grudingly supporting the progressive wing?  

I doesn't seem to me that someone who was beholden to the Clinton/DLC wing would be hosting Jim Dean and DFA at his house.  (Or going against the Philadelphia machine, but that comes with its own set of circumstances that may not apply perfectly.)

Steve Harrison for Congress, NY-13, Staten Island and Brooklyn, NY

by lutton on Thu Mar 27th, 2008 at 07:48:09 AM EST


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