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Someone Forgot to Tell Clinton

by BooMan
Thu Mar 27th, 2008 at 03:54:50 PM EST

Drip, drip, drip:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Somebody forgot to tell Hillary Clinton the Democratic presidential race is over and Barack Obama won.

This is a point that is largely lost on the dead-enders, but the dead-enders don't seem to have basic reading comprehension skills. For example, if there is a poll that shows that 28% of Clinton supporters will switch over to McCain rather than vote for Barack Obama, that poll doesn't say anything about whether Clinton's supporters genuinely like her or have been taken into Mark Penn's borg and no longer have free will.

Personally, I don't care if individual Clinton supporters vote for John McCain, Ralph Nader, or Mike Gravel. It's their choice. If Barack Obama does something that is unforgivable in their sight, I don't expect them to vote for him. I'm tired of all the people that lecture others about how they have to vote for the Democrat no matter what that Democrat does in order to win. It's all academic at this point anyway. Either you vote for Barack Obama, John McCain, some third party candidate, you write-in the candidate of your choice, or you don't vote. Clinton is not going to be on your ballot in November, so can we please stop playing make-believe?

If you live in one of the ten states that still haven't voted, ask yourself what is to be gained by prolonging this race?

Someone Forgot to Tell Clinton | 13 comments (13 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

One thing we can do is get organized (4.00 / 5)

I'm working right now on a project that will create a network of progressive organizers.

I will update here at BooTrib as I make progress...

k/o

by kid oakland (kidoakland<AT>comcast<DOT>net) on Thu Mar 27th, 2008 at 04:01:15 PM EST

drip, drip, DRIP (4.00 / 3)

I'm really interested to see the polls coming out the next few days. Yesterday's polls were just the beginning. She's beginning the long slow slide. All of these articles and teevee spots are working away in the background of day-to-day life and eventually will become common wisdom. At that point the slide will become faster and could even be a stomach churning drop (although the odds of her going lower than, say, 40% aren't very good. Look how bad Bush is and he's still got a base of support).

The only question to me is how long it will take.

by maryb2004 on Thu Mar 27th, 2008 at 04:17:03 PM EST

Re: drip, drip, DRIP (4.00 / 2)

TPM showed a 3/27 poll from Rasmussen that showed Clinton 46/Obama 44. They posted a new Gallop on top with Obama 48 to Hill's 44.

Did make me catch my breath at first glance of the Rasmussen.

o/t - Don Siegleman is being released on bond for his appeal! Wow!

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2008/03/siegelman_to_be_released_from.html

by mainsailset on Thu Mar 27th, 2008 at 04:58:42 PM EST
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Re: drip, drip, DRIP (none / 1)

Obama weathers Wright storm as new details emerge

Reuters:
The March 19-22 survey of 1,503 American adults found that despite the flap, Illinois Sen. Obama had maintained a 49 percent to 39 percent advantage over New York Sen. Hillary Clinton in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination.

btw, Reuters is running with the same article that AP does - linked by BooMan:

Democratic race over? Clinton doesn't think so

this will ensure wide coverage by media outlets.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Thu Mar 27th, 2008 at 05:38:09 PM EST
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Re: drip, drip, DRIP (4.00 / 2)

Reuters clearly just has an aversion to ovaries.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to you country.

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Thu Mar 27th, 2008 at 05:48:14 PM EST
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Re: drip, drip, DRIP (none / 0)

Pew poll today very interesting and meaty. Questions on the personalities of the candidates that I found interesting. Needless to say, Obama won the sunny personality contest.

Pew report

by Heart of the Rockies on Thu Mar 27th, 2008 at 10:12:14 PM EST
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Re: Someone Forgot to Tell Clinton (4.00 / 4)

There was a post about a week ago that indicated that the media are loving the raucous back and forth of Obama/Clinton interaction. I'll have to find that link. Personally, I had my fill weeks ago.

Oh, there you are, Perry. -Phineas -SLB-

by boran2 (blogistan@yahoo.com) on Thu Mar 27th, 2008 at 04:18:01 PM EST

Re: Someone Forgot to Tell Clinton (none / 1)

I think it was on Politico.

by Heart of the Rockies on Thu Mar 27th, 2008 at 10:12:46 PM EST
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Re: Someone Forgot to Tell Clinton (4.00 / 3)

"stop playing make-believe?"

they can't, she hasn't gotten her pony yet.

the revolution will not be televised...

by dada on Thu Mar 27th, 2008 at 04:23:16 PM EST

Re: Someone Forgot to Tell Clinton (none / 0)

it's fire ants Dada. Hillary does not deserve a pony.

Pelosi fires back at the Clinton campaign super donors' blackmail.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Thu Mar 27th, 2008 at 06:48:18 PM EST
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Re: Someone Forgot to Tell Clinton (none / 0)

A person with a sense of entitlement fails to see the "exit" signs. She would rather stay in the ocean instead swimming to shore. Hillary drowning a lifetime of political work, for something that is not an "entitlement", her campaign ran a 100 yard-sprint, when the race is a marathon. She cannot catch-up.

by americanforliberty on Thu Mar 27th, 2008 at 06:49:12 PM EST

CLINTON TACTICS TURN OFF SUPERDELEGATES (none / 0)

The path to hell seems to be a viscous cycle. For Hillary, the more she throws bombs at Obama, the more she seems to accelerate her decent. At 37% popularity, her lowest in several years, Hillary's self-destructiveness is now becoming an issue that relates directly to her ability to lead this country. But it is also turning off the superdelegates.

This piece from NBC/NJ's Matthew E. Berger speaks to the issue. When will Hillary give up a losing battle?

At a time when Sen. Hillary Clinton is increasingly relying on superdelegates to vault her to the Democratic Party's nomination, a handful of undecided and pledged superdelegates are coming forward to say her campaign's tactics in recent weeks are doing more harm than good.
The Democratic Party insiders say they believe Clinton's direct attacks against Sen. Barack Obama in recent days are hurting the party and its chances in November, and also say it is showing a calculated, desperate-to-win side of Clinton that they dislike.
"In looking at the manner in which the candidates are campaigning, I think it would be best they focused their attention on the presumptive nominee and showed our party which one is better in campaigning against McCain," said Garry Shay, a California superdelegate, who announced his support for Clinton.
Unlike some in the party, these superdelegates said they do not believe Clinton should drop out of the race. They said they are committed to the democratic process, and want to allow the states still remaining to cast their ballots. But they acknowledged Obama is the likely nominee and suggested the personal attacks were only hurting the party and its viability.

I truly feel sorry for the Hillaryophiles, but when the primaries have ended, they have ended. There is nothing that Bill has up his sleeve that would not simply continue Hillary's decent. She is looking like a sore loser who is now willing to take the Democrats down with her.

by shergald on Thu Mar 27th, 2008 at 07:19:24 PM EST

Re: Someone Forgot to Tell Clinton (none / 0)

Right, and the primaries haven't ended yet, so what's the harm in playing this out? If you are really that certain he will be the nominee, why not just ignore Clinton and turn your focus elsewhere? She can't really hurt him. All this stuff will come out in the fall anyway. The fact he is having to fight a bit for the nomination will make him stronger against McCain who is no pushover.

Regards.

by luko on Fri Mar 28th, 2008 at 07:38:22 PM EST

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