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Gangsta Rap Has Nothing to Do With It

by BooMan
Mon Mar 31st, 2008 at 09:10:49 AM EST

From the abstract of Darby Southgate's Gangsta Rap: Cultural Capital, Community Cohesion and Political Resistance - Meaning Making in Music Production.

There exists a dialectic response due to the exploitation of African American music by non-whites throughout U.S. history. The response of the Black musical community has been to produce new codes - exclusive to the community - which are soon routinized by the dominant group. I use participant observations over five years at a professional recording studio in Los Angeles, California, coupled with interviews of workers and owners (artists and producers) of the Hip-Hop genre Gangsta Rap to show that the response to the expropriation of black music by non-blacks results in the conscious production of codes to signal political resistance, and that these codes also function as community cohesion. I further show that receivers of these codes who are not in-group members react to the associations of the codes, and not their organic meanings; and this response is how cultural boundaries are made.

The full paper is not available online, which is too bad because it is probably quite interesting. The language in the abstract may seem like academic gobblygook, but you can see the main point. Gangsta rap includes in-group code language (cultural resistance) that is misinterpreted and then misappropriated (exploited) by out-group consumers. Gangsta rap is not alone. This has been a recurring feature with the black music scene throughout our history.

When considering the genre of Gangsta Rap, the exploitation phase occurred almost immediately after the first phase of authentic resistance. I am not going to write a history of rap here...instead I'll show an example of real early gangsta rap. This is from Oakland rapper Paris's The Devil Made Me Do It, and it is called Break the Grip of Shame.

Powerful images, right? It wasn't designed to make white folk feel comfortable. It isn't 'mainstream' and was never intended to be mainstream. 'Shock' was an elemental part of the art-form. This music was being made in 1989-1991, in the era directly prior to the Rodney King beatings and then the OJ Trial. No one was talking about police brutality and the planting of evidence by police officers. There was a war on in the cities and Gangsta Rap arose in response.

A group named N.W.A. (Niggers With Attitudes) created the early anthem with a rap named Fuck the Police. Their leader, Ice Cube spelled out what he saw going on in the cities.

Fuck the police
Comin’ straight from the underground
Young nigga got it bad cause I'm brown
And not the other color so police think
They have the authority to kill a minority
Fuck that shit, cause I ain't the one
For a punk mother fucker with a badge and a gun
To be beatin’ on, and throw in jail
We could go toe to toe in the middle of a cell
Fuckin with me cause I'm a teenager
With a little bit of gold and a pager
Searching my car, looking for the product
Thinking every nigga is selling narcotics

This introduction is instructive. Ice Cube isn't celebrating gangsta life, he's protesting police brutality and harassment. The police think they have the right to search his car just because he's black, or because he has a some gold and a pager. They even think they have the right to beat, jail, and kill him without evidence. As we later found out, the LAPD was guilty of all of those things during this time period.

Why did Ice Cube create this song? The motive is multi-faceted. It's an effort to educate white people about what is going on in the city, to rally black resistance, to show some (mostly false) bravado, and to make some money.

That last point (money) was what ruined the genre of Gangsta Rap almost immediately. White record executives and Black Entertainment Television president Robert Johnson quickly realized that there was money to made by selling the 'gangsta/pimp' look and message. Within a year or two, Ice Cube went solo and came out with less politically meaningful material.

I am friends with Larry Johnson, but I don't think he's qualified to do exigesis of Ice Cube's lyrics, let alone tar Barack Obama with their meaning. If his point is that it is hard to get elected in America if you are associate yourself with Gangsta Rap, then he's correct. That's a political insight, but it's also a cheap shot. Larry should attend services at Trinity Church. I think he'll discover it's a wonderful place that isn't anti-American at all. I'll bet he'll also discover that they know a lot more about police brutality and harassment than he does. And they reserve the right to speak out about it. Maybe they'll even try to 'shock' him into doing something about it.



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I guess I was baffled by the stuff that Larry wrote.  Talking about rappers didn't seem at all relevant to the campaign, so I couldn't really figure out what his point was.  Other than to try and take Obama down a notch...
by ericy on Mon Mar 31st, 2008 at 09:22:56 AM EST
I read some of L.C.'s blog posts that were linked on DKos.  As a friend of his, please do an intervention.  This guy needs to be told not to blog when angry.  He's obviously enraged and needs to get a grip.  It's an object lesson for everyone about what happens when you get so upset you lose the capacity for self-awareness.  A lot of what he has been writing is offensive, even if it doesn't cross the line into outright racism. It reflects badly on him.
by CarolynC on Mon Mar 31st, 2008 at 09:40:36 AM EST
You bet it does.  It is just so very sad to see this happen.  <<<sigh>>>
by BrendaStewart (stormyweather1@hotmail.com) on Mon Mar 31st, 2008 at 09:49:55 AM EST
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Ok, so I just read Larry's post. let me see if I get this straight.

Barack Obama's pastor is Jeremiah Wright.  Jeremiah Wright is a black man who made some comments that can be described as "anti-American."  

Noted former gangster rapper and current star of Hollywood family films like "Are We There Yet" Ice Cube is also a black man who made some anti-American comments.

Therefore, Barack Obama is a fellow traveller with Ice Cube circa 1989.  

I can play that game too.
Larry Johnson is a white guy who served in the armed forces.  Larry Johnson has made comments critical of the federal government.
Tim McVeigh is also a white guy who served in the armed forces and also made critical comments about the federal government before blowing up the Murrah Building in Oklahoma.

Therefore, Larry Johnson wants to blow up a building.  Is that more or less the way the game is played?

Brendan Calling John Mccain

by brendan on Mon Mar 31st, 2008 at 10:01:43 AM EST
I think you hit a home run with your analogy.

Remember to touch all the bases. :)

"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity"

by MikeInOhio (miken45054@yahoo.com) on Mon Mar 31st, 2008 at 10:09:53 AM EST
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You forgot the part where someone isn't black enough, except when he's too black.
by CabinGirl on Mon Mar 31st, 2008 at 10:14:04 AM EST
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I realize I keep commenting but this post by Larry is just so layered with absurdities I can't stop with just one.

WTF does a privileged white guy from the CIA know about the black experience, other than the best way to get crack from Central America to South Central LA?

Larry's ignorance about black culture is so blatant, obvious, and ridiculous, he makes me look like Cornell-fucking-West.

Larry: "There is no denying that rap and hip hop have enjoyed commercial success. But success does not mean it is widely accepted. It ain't mainstream."

Apparently, Larry doesn't own a radio.

This music and talk scares most people, white and black. And let's face it. Barack Obama has been trying portray himself as an authentic black man, when he has had a privileged lifestyle. Jeremiah Wright wanted folks to believe that Barack was raised by a single-parent mom. He just forgot to tell the congregation that Barack's Moms was white as were his grandparents.

I enjoy the assumption that "an authentic black man" can't have a privileged lifestyle and listens to violent hip-hop.  I guess that makes the Marsalis family white.

 

Brendan Calling John Mccain

by brendan on Mon Mar 31st, 2008 at 11:19:46 AM EST
I used to work at JC Penney, so I was very surprised when JC Penney went hip-hop. I stared at the television for several minutes as my jaw slowly went back to normal.
by northanger on Mon Mar 31st, 2008 at 12:46:34 PM EST
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And then you think of businesses, of advertising. I remember back in the late '80s when both the Kool-Aid man and Ronald McDonald both donned some thick chains, Adidas and let out some flow.  That was before the horridness that is gangsta (c)rap.  Johnson clearly doesn't own a TV either.

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by fabooj (fabooj [at} mail [dot} com) on Mon Mar 31st, 2008 at 02:43:36 PM EST
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by brendan on Tue Apr 1st, 2008 at 01:46:56 PM EST
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I am horrified and disappointed by the post on NoQuarter.
Larry is a Republican who hates Obama. Joe Wilson does too and I think they have done more harm than most anyone.
I am ashamed of Hillary and Bill for the low road they are taking and hope that somehow we can have an intelligent conversation on race. We are better than this.
by snowbird42 on Mon Mar 31st, 2008 at 09:35:03 AM EST
I am a huge fan of NWA.
I don't need to know what some ex-cia guy, who's 20 years older than me, has an axe to grind, and has the worst haircut in the world, thinks about NWA.  Especially considering the CIA's role in bringing crack to South Central.

Fuck him.

Brendan Calling John Mccain

by brendan on Mon Mar 31st, 2008 at 09:35:18 AM EST
Look, this is hard for me for I respect Larry and Susan.  I used to go there and join in like I do here, but I find it so very hard to do that these days because of the total consumption of the way they are producing their point.  I will not let anyone ram down my throat any thing that I find offensive.  I read his last piece and said to myself that it is nothing but pure racism.  I found it so very hard to swallow.  I will not go there when this is over and done with for I will not be party to anything that is tainted with this attitude.  It is ok to say a few words about your opinion and get it out in the open, but what they have been doing over there is nothing short of pure and simple hate and to me this is very wrong.  They even have cut down Keith Olbermann or anyone who disagrees with them and their candidate.  I think Cee and I know what that is like.  It is simply in their tone of the debate that is disgusting.  It is so very sad to see this happen......
by BrendaStewart (stormyweather1@hotmail.com) on Mon Mar 31st, 2008 at 09:43:41 AM EST
It seems like much more than loving their candidate. Why the hatred? I dont like what Hillary is doing but I dont attack her personally.
by snowbird42 on Mon Mar 31st, 2008 at 09:51:08 AM EST
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precisely
by BrendaStewart (stormyweather1@hotmail.com) on Mon Mar 31st, 2008 at 10:05:56 AM EST
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PS: Booman and this site is and has always been a class act.
by BrendaStewart (stormyweather1@hotmail.com) on Mon Mar 31st, 2008 at 09:44:45 AM EST
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Brenda,

I miss you over there. I'm hangin' in to keep them anchored in some reality. :D
I don't think Larry is a bigot. I honestly believe that he is doing what he does to keep the new rabble to NQ fired up for his candidate.
Now, at what cost?

by Cee on Mon Mar 31st, 2008 at 03:23:40 PM EST
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Hi Cee,  I miss not going there but I got so angry by reading, that commenting was out of the question.  I am so saddened by this for I truly enjoyed the articles being bought forth on the issues of the world.  Eveyone had such a good pace and rhetoric after all.  I really felt betrayed by what is going on over there.  Anyhow, I had to keep some sort of sanity and to go there, and it would have made me very rabid, I am afraid.  
Good to see you too.  I even have someone email me and ask why I was not posting over there and ask if it was what was going on...All I said was yes and let it go at that.

I have been wondering if they would vote for Obama if he was to win the nomination, by the way their rhetoric has been.  just wondering....

by BrendaStewart (stormyweather1@hotmail.com) on Mon Mar 31st, 2008 at 06:39:26 PM EST
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btw, I was posting over at NQ long before Susan or others decided to go there, so you see, I do feel rather betrayed...oh well, such is life...
by BrendaStewart (stormyweather1@hotmail.com) on Mon Mar 31st, 2008 at 06:41:04 PM EST
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The thing about hate is that it sucks all the oxygen out of the room. There's no room for any kind of reason, curiosity or desire to resolve. Larry, has all the tools to be a reasoned person, but his personal hatred has grown so loud that I don't see his reasoning anymore.

So Larry is a Hillary supporter. If you were an independent right now, sitting on the fence would you choose to join Larry and Carville in their hatred fest as a Hillary supporter? Because that's what her supporters are bringing to the race, an invitation to hate.

And more to the obvious, as a President, the hate that is laid out would blanket all of us were HRC to win. Trite but becoming true, the choice between hatred and hope.


No Hillary, you were outspent by the people not the Obama campaign.

by mainsailset (rideback@gmail.com) on Mon Mar 31st, 2008 at 10:52:48 AM EST
and guilting by association. Not to mention the need to say America is a white (and Latino?) nation. Sounds suspiciously like things a racist would say.
by JayGR on Mon Mar 31st, 2008 at 11:06:24 AM EST
Really? To say that his whole post is not logical is to be kind...very kind.

Can't hear ya, Peach!
by AP on Mon Mar 31st, 2008 at 11:26:49 AM EST
That I'm shocked that Larry Johnson is spewing more racist crap.  I almost feel bad for him.  Iowa really knocked that crew for a loop.  I mean, it was ugly before and the subtle racism was one thing, but Iowa...man, they brought out the sheets.  That post was nothing but pure vile racism, from the very first sentence.

Blogging While Brown Convention Atlanta, GA July 25-27, 2008
by fabooj (fabooj [at} mail [dot} com) on Mon Mar 31st, 2008 at 12:40:57 PM EST
That diary is just freaken bizarre and you mentioned his first sentences..I like where he made Ice-T into the 'good negroe'..saying most white people are comfortable with him, guess he's forgotten the huge reaction to the Ice-T song 'Cop Killer' years ago. That even had Moses, I mean Charlton Heston protesting Time Warner wasn't it..what a uproar that was-just like the Wright deal...much ado and fearmongering for nothing.

'Poverty is the worst form of violence'--Gandhi
by chocolate ink on Mon Mar 31st, 2008 at 04:50:58 PM EST
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