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IL-14: Foster/Oberweis Thread

by BooMan
Sat Mar 8th, 2008 at 08:07:52 PM EST

The polls have just closed in Illinois' 14th District. There was a special election to fill the vacancy created when former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert abruptly retired last year. Bill Foster is the Democrat and he is good friends with Rep. Patrick Murphy (PA-08), and will likely be a similar Democrat. Although he is likely to caucus with the Bush Blue Dogs, he is no BushDog. Some polls have shown Foster running a little ahead, but it's a deadheat in a pretty Republican district. What's at stake?

Rep. Chris Van Hollen of Maryland, chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, said a Foster victory in the "rock-ribbed" GOP district would "send a shock wave through the political system that people are absolutely fed up with the status quo."

Here's a link to the returns.



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I know this is somewhat off-topic, but I couldn't help notice the small map of the whole state. That's some pretty impressive gerrymandering!

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by eodell (eodell at naqada dot org) on Sat Mar 8th, 2008 at 08:15:18 PM EST
i'd love to hear more details if you've got em. "caucus with bush dogs" what do you mean by that? (i know what it means, i'm asking more for your opinion about the extent of it, in the voting sense) being friendly with PM is great, will it be enough to guarantee he won't become a bush dog? that's the question. it's a hard district for a progressive dem, and i suspect there will be a lot of pressure for any dem, foster or anyone, to act strongly in favor of progressive policy and values.
by chicago dyke (anheduanna at yahoo.com) on Sat Mar 8th, 2008 at 08:30:10 PM EST
i think i missed something here.
why would a dem caucus wuth the Bush dogs??

The sleep of reason begets tyrants. -Goya
by joe in oklahoma on Sat Mar 8th, 2008 at 08:32:11 PM EST
sorry, he will probably caucus with the Blue Dogs, but he isn't a Bush Dog.
by BooMan on Sat Mar 8th, 2008 at 09:06:00 PM EST
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The curious term "Bush dog" is a snarky way of discussing this breed of Democrat.  They originally called themselves "blue dogs" to distinguish themselves from "yellow dogs", the traditional faithful Democratic hound.  The blue dogs are democrats who often vote to support Republican positions, but are democrats.

Someone began calling them Bush dogs and it was so appropriate and correct that many followed suit.

by dataguy on Sun Mar 9th, 2008 at 07:52:07 AM EST
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TPM is posting results as well. Rep Van Hollen might want to break out the Alka Selzer cause if the first 3% is any indication his horse just died.


by mainsailset on Sat Mar 8th, 2008 at 09:03:04 PM EST
The AP seems to have more current returns.
by Mithras on Sat Mar 8th, 2008 at 09:04:55 PM EST
At 9:24, with 55% reporting, Foster is up by 6 points.
by Mithras on Sat Mar 8th, 2008 at 09:26:30 PM EST
64% and the spread is holding AND Obama gained some on hrc 61/38 with the final on WY caucus!!!! not a bad day to be a Dem all in all.

by mainsailset on Sat Mar 8th, 2008 at 09:43:51 PM EST
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88% in, Foster leads 53-47.

How about them coattails!

by PsiFighter37 on Sat Mar 8th, 2008 at 09:45:01 PM EST
This is the web site for the Aurora Beacon News. Aurora is at the east edge of this district. If Bill Foster pulls this off, it will be big news. This is a very Republican district. I live in Rockford just to the north in IL-16 which is also a heavily Republican area.

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/beaconnews/index.html

by pch1351 on Sat Mar 8th, 2008 at 09:45:11 PM EST
Yeah, those numbers come from the AP feed. 94% in. Foster won.
by Mithras on Sat Mar 8th, 2008 at 09:50:09 PM EST
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AP officially projects Foster won.
by RandyH on Sat Mar 8th, 2008 at 09:53:21 PM EST
53% to 47%  A blowout in Denny Hastert's stronghold!

The only thing that can stop us in November is Hillary.

by The Voice In The Wilderness on Sat Mar 8th, 2008 at 10:02:53 PM EST
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what an abject failure Hastert delivered to his party.
Note to the guys who just threw a whole lotta bucks down this rat hole...you didn't pull the wool over America's eyes, her vision is 20/20 and she's pissed.


by mainsailset on Sat Mar 8th, 2008 at 10:02:31 PM EST
You can't fool all the people all of the time. (But you can fool 30% of the people all of the time.)
by The Voice In The Wilderness on Sat Mar 8th, 2008 at 10:05:06 PM EST
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exactly. now if we could just figure out a way to ban that 30% from breeding!


by mainsailset on Sat Mar 8th, 2008 at 10:12:33 PM EST
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They've tried that - never again...

The Underground Railroad
by Oscar In Louisville on Sat Mar 8th, 2008 at 10:23:00 PM EST
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Something interesting was just pointed out on CNN. With Foster winning, he will become the newest Democratic Superdelegate. Considering Obama's strong support of the guy (even making a TV ad endorsing him,) I wonder who's gonna be able to count him, as a superdelegate vote,  in their column?
by RandyH on Sat Mar 8th, 2008 at 10:39:02 PM EST
This guy says Foster has already announced he's supporting Obama.
by Mithras on Sat Mar 8th, 2008 at 10:51:44 PM EST
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Almost all the time the home state crowd supports the Favorite Child.  IL pols support Obama.  NY pols support Hillary (including Rangel).

So this is properly viewed as the home state bias.  Welcome NONETHELESS.

by dataguy on Sun Mar 9th, 2008 at 07:54:42 AM EST
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