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Huge Surge of Registration for Obama

by BooMan
Sun Apr 20th, 2008 at 05:39:38 PM EST

If you look at a map of the Democratic voter registration surge (by zip code) in the five county Philadelphia region, an important pattern emerges. It will help if you know the region and the city. In Philly, registration is through the roof in University City and the rest of West Philly. This is Obama's strongest area (District 2, Chaka Fattah) in the state. Registration is also extremely high in the North (the blackest area of Philly) and in the Center City, Society Hill, Queens Village area (District 2, Bob Brady) that is socially liberal and filled with urban professionals and artists (the Creative Class). By contrast, registration is low in the Northeast, Fishtown, and deep South Philly (white ethnics, most opposed to Obama).

The same pattern holds in Bucks County, where heavily black Morrisville saw a huge spike, in Montgomery County, where heavily black Norristown and Conshohocken saw a huge spike, in Delaware County, where heavily black Chester and Darby saw a huge spike, and Chester Country, where heavily black Coatsville and West Chester saw a huge spike. Overall, the heaviest registration has come from college towns/areas, black neighborhoods, and the Creative Class neighborhoods of Philadelphia.

This portends a very high differential turnout of Obama voters to Clinton voters in the five county area. It also portends an historically unprecedented differential turnout of the black/creative class vote over the white ethnic vote.

I'm not a polling expert, but I do know that pollsters are not free just to pull turnout models out of thin air. If the percentage of the Democratic vote that was black in 2004-2006 was say 17%, the pollsters are not going to postulate that it will be 25% this year. Likewise, if the Philly region represented say 33% of the statewide vote in recent election, then the pollsters will not stray too far from that precedent.

If you are polling the whole state using just 700-1000 voters, you have to get the regional turnout numbers right, you have to get the differential race, age, and gender numbers right. If you don't, your poll is going to be off.

On the eve of the South Carolina primary the polls predicted the following result:

Obama: 43.1%
Clinton: 28.5%
Edwards: 17.0%

The actual result?

Obama: 55%
Clinton: 27%
Edwards: 18.0%

Two out of three ain't bad. They nailed the vote for Clinton and Edwards, but they dramatically underestimated Obama's vote. Looking at the voter registration numbers in the Philly area, I think there is a real chance that the pollsters are about to be proven wrong about this race.

Here is one sign that backs up my suspicions.

A recent Keystone Poll of Pennsylvania voters, conducted by Franklin and Marshall College, found that 62 percent of Democrats who registered statewide within the last three months planned to vote for Obama.

They might be weighting their polls using anachronistic turnout models. If so, look for Obama to dramatically outperform the polls, just as he did in South Carolina.



Display:
How many new Dems were registered/flipped from the GOP/Indie pool total in Penn?

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to you country.
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Sun Apr 20th, 2008 at 05:44:05 PM EST
This will give you an idea.
by BooMan on Sun Apr 20th, 2008 at 05:52:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]
So about 310,000 new Dems, taking new voters and those who switched, just since January.  That could, indeed, prove pretty Earth-shattering.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to you country.
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Sun Apr 20th, 2008 at 05:58:58 PM EST
[ Parent ]
10:08 PM

TPM has up the LATE POLLS

Strategic Vision (R) (4-18/20) Clinton 48%, Obama 41%.

SurveyUSA Clinton 53%, Obama 41%.

ARG (4-17/19) Clinton 54%, Obama 41%.

Mason-Dixon (4-17/18) Clinton 48%, Obama 43%

hope those double digits are off. Gawd, she can't be allowed to win at 10%. End the misery. Enough already.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Sun Apr 20th, 2008 at 10:35:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Those are all the lousy pollsters, though.  SUSA and PPP are, I think, the only ones worth considering every time.  I'm torn.  Betting against SUSA is like playing Russian Roulette with only two empty chambers, but betting against PPP is like playing with only one.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to you country.
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Mon Apr 21st, 2008 at 10:40:32 AM EST
[ Parent ]
oh guys - Drew J J and BooMan. Stop the drooling. No jinx. OK.

 It'll be spun as 'since the last census, PA is now SC  and we did not see it coming.'

and Geraldine and Bob's talkingpoints.

and we were broke. he outspent us 8:1*

and it's the full moon. Oops! they can't use that..... defamation of character. On 2nd deep thought, yes, they will.

*Hill and Bill could've used some of that $109 million made over the last 7 years....(no wonder they wouldn't release that info until the 11th hr). Betcha donations dried to a trickle since those tax returns went public.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Sun Apr 20th, 2008 at 06:10:42 PM EST
This latest is somewhat of a justification for your earlier post and my comments as well. I am in no way or by any stretch of the imagination as well equipped to posit as learned a posting as you but if the atats are anywhere correct, then the next question has to be: What is the difference? And the probable answer must include"The Blogs"! What you and the vast sphere is offering is a viable, knowledgeable and instant response to the traditional media sources. Your continued offerings have become the main source for the growing dissatisfied citizenry that are, in no way, as ignorant as the MSM openly treats them.
 If, by chance, the O man defeats Hillary in Pa., The rush to spin will be staggering. Might I point out that even if Hillary is able to garner a slight victory, Obama emerges as the true victor. And, the biggest victor of all will be the Sphere!
by billjpa (billjpa@aol.com) on Sun Apr 20th, 2008 at 06:16:03 PM EST
Interesting analysis, and one that certainly portends well for Obama. Nevertheless, I'm wary of getting too optimistic based on new registration numbers. At this point, it will be all about GOTV - and it will mean overrunning Clinton in Philadelphia and the suburbs.

Whether it's enough, who knows. If Obama manages to pull out an upset, then we'll know that the pollsters got it wrong.

by PsiFighter37 on Sun Apr 20th, 2008 at 06:21:22 PM EST
by refinish69 (refinish69 at gmail dot com) on Sun Apr 20th, 2008 at 06:23:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]
a lot is riding on PA.

not too happy to read at Huffpost: Undecided super-delegates don't feel bound by primaries

Most of the more than 100 undecided superdelegates who discussed their decision-making with The Associated Press in the past two weeks agreed that the primaries and caucuses do matter _ whether it's who has the most national delegates or the candidate who won their state or congressional district. But few said the primaries will be the biggest factor in their decision.

"I think it's really important that we keep our eye on the prize, and the prize is the win in November," said Gail Rasmussen, an undecided superdelegate from Oregon.

That's good news for Clinton, who cannot catch Obama in delegates won in the few remaining primaries and caucuses.

Obama has been arguing for months that the superdelegates would be overturning the will of the voters if they don't nominate the candidate who has won the most pledged delegates. He has a 164-delegate lead in that category. Clinton, meanwhile, has argued that superdelegates should exercise independent judgment.

Many of the undecided superdelegates say they don't want to be perceived as elite insiders, cutting backroom deals to select a nominee. But that doesn't mean they're ready to forfeit their status.

"I think that is changing the rules in the middle of the process," said Rep. Dan Boren of Oklahoma. "Obviously there are some problems with the process; there need to be some reforms made. Frankly, I would favor the people making the decision rather than insiders and party bosses."
[.]

I'm all for abolishing super-delegates. They get to vote twice? How's that?

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Sun Apr 20th, 2008 at 09:25:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]
those numbers, combined with obama's ground game, certainly open the door to a victory there.

l'm not up on all the polling, but l do see that the latest mcclatchy/msnbc/pittsburg post-gazette poll seems to have it close to a dead heat with the moet:

...Overall, Clinton leads Obama by a margin of 48-43 percent, with 8 percent still undecided. The telelphone survey of 625 likely Pennsylvania voters was taken April 17-18 and had an error margin of plus or minus 4 percentage points...

link

with the seemingly lackluster ground game being mounted by the clinton campaign, probably due in no small part from apparent money woes, and the large differential in turn out at events, this may indeed have the potential to be a defining moment in the primary.

even us cynical ol bastads can hope.

lTMF'sA...the revolution will not be televised...Peace

by dada on Sun Apr 20th, 2008 at 06:24:26 PM EST
Come Tuesday night, I may be sipping a tad of something chased by beer. And the beer won't be Bud - that's Cindy McCain's product.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"
by idredit on Sun Apr 20th, 2008 at 06:27:57 PM EST
[ Parent ]
put it on my tab idredit.

l'll skip the brown liquor in a dirty glass, but l'll certainly join you in a toast...maybe an Avery Karma, or two.

btw: kudos on the "anti swift boat" catch...obama's obviously looking ahead.


lTMF'sA...the revolution will not be televised...Peace

by dada on Sun Apr 20th, 2008 at 06:44:20 PM EST
[ Parent ]
thanks for the kind words dada. As usual so good of you

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"
by idredit on Sun Apr 20th, 2008 at 07:06:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I have to say, I just haven't seen much of anything on the ground re: Hillary here.  NO mailers, few signs here (more in West Chester, but not a lot  by any stretch of the imagination), and yesterday, I saw a handful of college kids with "Honk for Hillary" signs in front of the County Courthouse and in front of a shopping center (in separate towns in Chester County).  Drove past both groups on 2 separate occassions - only ever heard 1 honk total!

I was also in Wayne PA on Saturday...tons of Obama yard signs, and LOTS of honking for the Obama folks at the main intersection there.  It's only anecdotal, but we are actively looking for signs of Hillary support and just not seeing it.

I have no clue how this is going to turn out on Tuesday, but the Obama folks definitely have enthusiasm on their side.

by CabinGirl on Sun Apr 20th, 2008 at 06:33:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]
interesting observations...there seems to be, at least imo, a definite, and growing, lack of enthusiasm for clinton everywhere but the web.

people are tiring of the quixotic pursuit that she's indulging in.

even here, where our caucuses were over feb 5th, her long time defenders are questioning it and moving to obama...they're more interested in arguing about who his veep pick's going to be.

lTMF'sA...the revolution will not be televised...Peace

by dada on Sun Apr 20th, 2008 at 06:53:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]
CG, I've been phone banking PA today and I've some telling me they were for Clinton but after the mud slinging they'll now vote Obama. This from men. And from women, "Anybody but Hillary"

Confirms this great piece in The Sunday Times, UK a repost of selected morsels:

Hillary Clinton's 'Republican' tactics backfire in battle for Pennsylvania

President Bush's election guru Karl Rove tells our correspondent in Philadelphia that she has left it too late to assail Barack Obama

After Hillary Clinton threw everything including the kitchen sink at Obama last week, one last wild move to boost supporters' spirits would have surprised nobody - because nothing, so far, has been able to prevent the Democratic presidential nomination from slipping out of her grasp in the run-up to Tuesday's Pennsylvania primary.

If it is too late for Clinton, 60, to turn the race around, she has only herself to blame, according to Karl Rove, the architect of George W Bush's two presidential election victories. Democrats regard him as the master of the art of negative campaigning.

"Her problem is not the attack on Obama, it is the timing," he told The Sunday Times. "She was complacent at the beginning and took him for granted."

[.]

Outside a silver diner in a white, working-class corner of Philadelphia, fans wore T-shirts with the message, "We've got your back, Hillary", but it is not a good sign when your own admirers are on the defensive.

[.]
Chris Carney, a Pennsylvania congressman who has yet to declare for either candidate, said: "This is probably the most stressful situation the two of them have ever been in and it gives us clues to how they will govern in the White House."

He was not impressed when Clinton accused Obama of condescension towards working-class voters after he suggested at a West Coast fundraiser that economically deprived, small-town voters "cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them".

"I think it's a tempest in a teapot," Carney said. "It's an indication that she's grasping for something here. This is a close race. The fact is she's come down from a lead of 22% in the polls to 5% or 6%."

There are still enough "undecideds" to swing the Pennsylvania race heavily in Clinton's favour should the fallout from the attacks on Obama continue. Yet the speed with which the former first lady has gone from "inevitable" winner of the nomination to the brink of sudden death is extraordinary.

Rove believes she committed a fundamental error at the outset by allowing Obama to steal the mantle of change from her. After Clinton spent years as a senator building bridges with Republicans, Obama breezed in and said only he could unite "red state" (Republican) and "blue state" (Democrat) America.

I saw Hillary's name change: Karl R. Clinton.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Sun Apr 20th, 2008 at 07:23:09 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Yesterday, sitting in a tiny grange hall room with another 150 delegates for 7 hrs while we worked thru our Party business I looked around. We had a young man 18, 2 ladies & 3 men in their 30's and the rest of the room was over 40, mostly over 50.

ALL but 3 for Obama and whe at 1 they announced we had 54 resolutions to vote on by 4, the whole room stood up and chanted YES WE CAN!

Judged purely by age we should be HRC supporters, guess we're not the only flaw in the pollmeisters' gig.

No Hillary, you were outspent by the people not the Obama campaign.

by mainsailset (rideback@gmail.com) on Sun Apr 20th, 2008 at 07:40:11 PM EST
[ Parent ]
   That's a great map.  It's hard to disagree with your conclusions.  There were also large increases in surrounding small cities like Valley Forge, Pottstown, Quakertown, and Doylestown.  
by cilerder86 on Sun Apr 20th, 2008 at 06:24:26 PM EST
Does PA do Diebold? Just remembering New Hampshire...

The Underground Railroad
by Oscar In Louisville on Sun Apr 20th, 2008 at 06:32:57 PM EST
I can only speak for my suburban precinct, but I get a paper receipt for my ballot when I vote; I think they use an optical scan now instead of a punch card.
by CabinGirl on Sun Apr 20th, 2008 at 06:34:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]
FWIW, Clinton will be holding her closing rally Monday night on Penn's campus (in the Palestra) along with Bill and Chelsea. I still find it hard to fathom why she decided to end her PA campaign in the district where she is going to get absolutely rocked.
by PsiFighter37 on Sun Apr 20th, 2008 at 06:36:59 PM EST
In times of great peril, embittered people often cling to their family, faith, and guns...

The Underground Railroad
by Oscar In Louisville on Sun Apr 20th, 2008 at 06:51:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Doing My Part For The Left,Left Of The Rainbow
by refinish69 (refinish69 at gmail dot com) on Sun Apr 20th, 2008 at 06:54:08 PM EST
[ Parent ]
BRILLIANT! ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!
by billjpa (billjpa@aol.com) on Sun Apr 20th, 2008 at 07:35:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I've been trying to wrap my head around it.  Is she hoping to preserve that 2-7 walloping?

And why put Hill, Bill, and Chelsea all in West Philly?  Why not spread it around?

by BooMan on Sun Apr 20th, 2008 at 06:40:36 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Because she is clueless or seems that way lately.   The sense of denial is overwhelming.

Doing My Part For The Left,Left Of The Rainbow
by refinish69 (refinish69 at gmail dot com) on Sun Apr 20th, 2008 at 06:43:34 PM EST
[ Parent ]
All through her campaign, HRC has been making dumb plays thus giving the lie to the value of her experience and proving that her so called organizational skills are a myth.

She reminds me, now, of some punch drunk fighter who doesn't know the way to his own corner.  Or does she think that she and her family can make some inroads into Obama's strength.  Utter folly.

Whom the Gods would destroy, they first make mad.

All members of the frog pond are special.

by Ignod on Sun Apr 20th, 2008 at 08:47:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]
There were few Clinton strongholds around the state where registration boomed in the way that Obama strongholds saw huge increases. And out west, as in Westmoreland county, there were areas where registration remained nearly flat. That suggests that across the state the newly registered are heavily Obama supporters.

Second, however, the F&M poll figure of 62%, though intriguing, is based on precious few respondents (about 15 in total). Also, fwiw, the newly registered are UNDER represented in the F&M poll (which sampled only 4%, though they constitute about 7% of the Dem electorate).

Inconvenient News Doing my part to afflict the comfortable.

by smintheus on Mon Apr 21st, 2008 at 08:38:08 PM EST


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