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Deep Thought

by BooMan
Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 06:03:16 PM EST

I've pretty much given up on drinking anything with corn syrup in it. That means that if I drink Coca-Cola, I get it at a Mexican grocery because Mexican Coke is made with cane sugar. I drink Mexican sodas of varying brands that are carried in the supermarket. But I just discovered Blue Sky Jamaican Ginger Ale, and it is by far the best carbonated drink I've ever tasted. I think the only corn syrup I'm still consuming is in WaWa salad dressing and Sweet Baby Ray's B-B-Q sauce. Although, I have to check everything because they try to put corn syrup in the craziest places. Say no to corn syrup. It'll kill you.



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check to be sure it's bottled in country of origin and not here under licensee.

You're right. Corn syrup is in everything.  I went looking for vanilla extract - not the artificial variety - took a read to discover corn syrup in the vanilla extract, meaning it IS artificial. Now, why is corn syrup in vanilla extract. My recipe does not need it. My body does not need it.

PS: I bought vanilla beans and bourbon. Made my own.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 06:11:34 PM EST
Have you read Michael Pollan's The Omnivore's dilemma? Great writing that traces the journey of corn into all our food, and finally explains some of the economics/politics of the whole system. If you want to go beyond personal avoidance and understand how all this happens, this is a must-read book.

There's also a movie called King Corn that I haven't seen yet that seems to cover much of the same ground.

Bush is "the first President to admit to an impeachable offense." --Former Nixon counsel John Dean

by DaveW on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 06:17:56 PM EST
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Vanilla?

Those bastards are pernicious.

by BooMan on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 06:22:10 PM EST
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Damn. That's crazy.

These are the deep thoughts I should be thinking: how to stay the hell away from corn syrup. That shit is evil.

For us, we don't buy sodas. Our family and friends know that soda only comes to our home to die from being unused. I've also stopped buying and using salad dressings, including balsamic dressing. I make my own: really, all you need is red wine and balsamic vinegars, dijon mustard, herbs and olive oil--and a battery-operated emulsifier, et voila. Your veggies will thank you.

Out and about: It's oil and vinegar all the way, except for some homemade blue cheese dressing from a local seafood restaurant.

For french fries, make like the Dutch and dip in mayo. I know, it sounds disgusting because of tradition, but it really is tasty. I just don't dump it on the fries, but order on the side. Peanut sauce is yummy on fries, too!

Of course, you'll likely have to make your own.

The other thing we have to watch for is sodium. That is every damned where, too. My doctor told me to quit buying canned goods altogether.

We should stop buying anything that is described as "low fat" because you're gonna pay for the "great taste" somewhere: either in sugar and/or corn syrup, or sodium.

Can't hear ya, Peach!

by AP on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 06:46:22 PM EST
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I totally do the mayo and fries thing.   Despite the crazy looks I get from servers.
by CabinGirl on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 07:15:05 PM EST
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Mayo and fries, but dump some curry into the mayo and mix it well. I discovered that at a pomme frites stand in Berlin in 1971.

In fact, curry in the potato salad. Curry in everything. Everything but corn syrup.

by Bob In Pacifica on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 07:55:10 PM EST
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chipotle in mayo.  YUM! for fries & burgers & other stuffs.
by martini on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 09:23:35 PM EST
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Ewwww...

"Don't waste your time on the clowns, watch the real show"
by Second Nature on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 10:07:01 PM EST
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Is mayo and fries weird? Because then there are a lot of weird people in Wisconsin.

"Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." - Malcolm X
by Woodpecker on Tue Apr 29th, 2008 at 12:19:24 AM EST
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You know, until I moved to Texas I would have thought that the idea of french fries with gravy pretty disgusting. Well, I guess it is, but Sonic made these chicken baskets with French fries and cream gravy. Dipping the french fries in the gravy? Yum, yum. Dairy Queen has them up here but most of the local DQs closed down and we have to go way out of our way to get to one nowadays.

Geez, no wonder I need to lose weight.

The avalanche has started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -- Ambassador Kosh

by Omir the Storyteller (omir.the.storyteller -CAT- gmail -DOG- com) on Fri May 2nd, 2008 at 02:57:14 PM EST
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yes, that did it for me.

"Pure Vanilla Extract" name brand or private label does not exist on the main street supermarket shelves. Not any more.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 06:58:24 PM EST
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how many more pages just got added to your CIA files due to the presence of a post mentioning "Mexican Coke"

oh shit - my file just expanded too...

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by its simple IF you ignore the complexity (simplecomplexity AT mac.com) on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 07:26:45 PM EST
Check out how the stuff's made if you don't already know:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Fructose_Corn_Syrup

The greatest service which can be rendered any country is to add an useful plant to its culture -- Thomas Jefferson

by tommurphy (industrialhemp at mac dot com) on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 08:00:03 PM EST
Fructose may be the enemy here, glucose being less harmful.  

I have learned to recognize the unpleasant, sticky aftertaste that high-fructose corn syrup seems to give to things:  More than once I have said to myself, that was good at first but now it is sticky and yucky--let me read the label!  But I don't know why HFCS has this property.  

by Gaianne on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 10:18:14 PM EST
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Before I was diagnosed with diabetes I used to enjoy Karo dark corn syrup on my pancakes. I think it's my father's fault. He was born in 1918 and was a teenager during the Depression, and my guess is that's what they had available to put on their pancakes. And it tastes really good warm with melted butter.

Nowadays though when everything has HFCS in it, I'm not sure it'd be such a good idea. I try to avoid it when I can, but it's insidious. Now if I had a car, I could probably avoid it altogether, beause there's a grocery co-op here in Seattle that has banned HFCS from the shelves. Unfortunately there isn't a PCC near where we live, which is a bummer, because before we moved out of Seattle proper there was one within about a mile of the house, and we never took sufficient advantage of the opportunity.

The avalanche has started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -- Ambassador Kosh

by Omir the Storyteller (omir.the.storyteller -CAT- gmail -DOG- com) on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 08:00:08 PM EST
Yep.  I stopped consuming corn syrup years ago, with a couple minor exceptions.  For example, I don't eat a lot of catsup, so when I do, I don't go out of my way to get a corn syrup free version.

Tengo un sueño.
by ejmw (ewitham (at) umich (dot) edu) on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 06:09:13 PM EST
good point.  I do eat ketchup...never that catsup crap though.  Say no to Hunt's.
by BooMan on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 06:11:15 PM EST
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Hah.  That should show you how little of the stuff I eat, I didn't realize they were anything other than mere synonyms.  

I was wrong.

Make sure it isn't in your bread either.  I started making my own bread about a year ago and haven't gone back.

Tengo un sueño.
by ejmw (ewitham (at) umich (dot) edu) on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 06:14:27 PM EST
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That was hilarious...The Controversy sounds like something Terry Pratchett wrote

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by fabooj (fabooj [at} mail [dot} com) on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 06:34:28 PM EST
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Here's another deep thought.  If I were ever to write a tell-all book about the behind the scenes crap that goes on in the blogosphere, it would not be very nice to almost anyone.  Thank god for Duncan.  He never pisses me off.  
by BooMan on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 06:26:32 PM EST
If I were ever to write a tell-all book about a quarter of the behind the scenes crap that I'm emailed about thatgoes on in the blogosphere, it would not be very nice to almost anyone.  Thank god for Duncan and Booman.  They never piss me off.

Blogging While Brown Convention Atlanta, GA July 25-27, 2008
by fabooj (fabooj [at} mail [dot} com) on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 06:33:36 PM EST
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Now you're talkin'.  

I'd buy that book.  In fact, I'd buy any book you decided to write if you'd only get off your ass and write one ;)

Help me raise money for Jay Nixon, the next Democratic governor of Missouri

by maryb2004 on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 06:35:17 PM EST
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I've been telling him that for years!

Tengo un sueño.
by ejmw (ewitham (at) umich (dot) edu) on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 06:36:46 PM EST
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You and I need to kidnap him and take to a remote location that he doesn't like (Michigan) and keep him there until he produces the book.  

I do a good Kathy Bates imitation ...

Help me raise money for Jay Nixon, the next Democratic governor of Missouri

by maryb2004 on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 06:38:15 PM EST
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I can see that, maryb.  I'm your biggest fan you know...

"Don't waste your time on the clowns, watch the real show"
by Second Nature on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 06:45:58 PM EST
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You. You dirty bird. How COULD you?

Can't hear ya, Peach!
by AP on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 06:53:02 PM EST
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I knew that admission would surprise no one.  Especially you ... :)

Help me raise money for Jay Nixon, the next Democratic governor of Missouri
by maryb2004 on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 06:53:38 PM EST
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I would definitely buy that book. Y'all are cahrazy. :)

My Band Rocks!
by keirdubois (keir@mybandrocks.com) on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 08:54:42 PM EST
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bye the bye;

St. John McSame, could be in some more deep doo. Hope the GOP's big pockets are standing by.

WSJ: Judicial Watch, following the DNC, has filed an FEC complaint not just against McSame but also Hillary Clinton on fundraising violations

"Another right-leaning watchdog group, Judicial Watch, filed a complaint against McCain today over a recent London fund-raiser. The group has also filed a complaint against Sen. Hillary Clinton over a recent fund-raiser featuring Elton John:Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, announced today that it filed a formal complaint, dated April 22, 2008, with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) related to a fundraising luncheon held at London's Spencer House to benefit Senator John McCain's presidential campaign.  The venue for the event was apparently donated to the campaign by foreign nationals, in violation of federal campaign finance laws.

"Recent news reports suggest that Sen. John McCain and John McCain for President may have accepted an in-kind contribution from foreign nationals Lord Rothschild OM GBE and the Hon. Nathaniel Rothschild of Great Britain in contravention of federal election laws," Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton wrote in a complaint letter dated April 22, 2008.  "On behalf of Judicial Watch and its supporters, I hereby request that the FEC investigate the matter."

The McCain fundraiser was held on March 20, 2008 at London's Spencer House, billed as "London's most magnificent 18th century private palace."  The McCain campaign distributed an invitation indicating that the site for the luncheon had been provided "by kind permission of Lord Rothschild, OM GBE and the Hon. Nathaniel Rothschild," who are both foreign nationals.  In statements to the press, the McCain campaign referred to the luncheon as a "fundraiser."

While it is, as yet, unclear how much money was raised during the luncheon, had the venue not been donated to the McCain campaign, the net profit from the event would have been significantly reduced.  The donation of the venue, therefore, represents an illegal in-kind campaign contribution.

one problem. FEC is quorum-less and cannot issue decisions.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 06:30:55 PM EST
Can't wait until the conspiracy types hear wind of THAT!   Them and the Rockafellers stir up conspiracy theories a plenty!
by martini on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 09:34:20 PM EST
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Why?  Besides the obvious sugar content, that is.

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by fabooj (fabooj [at} mail [dot} com) on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 06:37:09 PM EST
Sugar (the word stems from the Sanskrit sharkara) consists of a class of edible crystalline substances including sucrose, lactose, and fructose.

Corn syrup is a syrup, made using corn starch as a feedstock, and composed mainly of glucose.

The startling rise in diabetes is perfectly mirrored by our mounting consumption of refined carbohydrates, a new analysis reveals. The study adds to evidence that sugary foods should be eschewed and that public health advice to cut back on fat may have backfired.

Levels of obesity and late onset diabetes have risen slowly over the last century and accelerated in the last 40 years. While the problem is most acute in developed countries, there is evidence that rates are starting to increase in developing countries too. Most experts agree that worsening diets and increasingly inactive lifestyles are responsible, but the exact cause is hard to pin down.

Simin Liu of the Harvard School of Public Health, Boston, and his co-workers collected information on consumption and food composition for the period between 1909 and 1997. They compared this with data on disease incidence rates from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The climb in diabetes goes hand in hand with the rise in total calorie intake, the team reports in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition1. This fits the idea that obesity places people at risk of diabetes.

But when Liu broke down the figures into proteins, fats and carbohydrates, a different picture emerged. Neither fat consumption nor protein seem to be the root cause of the problem.

Instead, the diabetes rise best matches dropping fibre consumption and escalating consumption of corn syrup, a ubiquitous sweetener in today's processed foods. "It is quite striking," says nutritional scientist Cyril Kendall of the University of Toronto, Canada.

Foods high in refined carbohydrate, the argument goes, send blood sugar soaring, requiring the pancreas to pump out insulin. Over time, the body's tissues become resistant to the excess insulin and pancreatic cells wear out, resulting in diabetes.

Liu's analysis does not prove that corn syrup caused the increase in diabetes, experts are careful to point out. But the finding bolsters the idea that this and other highly refined carbohydrates such as white flour, white rice and sugar put people at risk of obesity and diabetes.

link.

by BooMan on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 06:46:40 PM EST
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I thought it was something new and interesting that I hadn't known.  I wasn't raised eating corn syrup (except for peanut brittle) and I don't buy anything with it in it, save the odd soda here and there.  

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by fabooj (fabooj [at} mail [dot} com) on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 07:05:56 PM EST
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it seems to be implicated in the exploding (heh) obesity rates since 1970....the body reacts differently to it than it does to cane sugar, somehow circumvents the signal that tells the brain to stop eating...? or something like that...

"Don't waste your time on the clowns, watch the real show"
by Second Nature on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 06:47:59 PM EST
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Personally, it's not so much because of the personal health side of the story as it is the environmental ramifications of having a population whose diet is so heavily dependent on corn.

This post on the sugar shock blog is a decent summary:

[...] Washington Post journalist Eviana Hartman points out.

"Most corn is grown as a monoculture, meaning that the land is used solely for corn, not rotated among crops," she writes. "This maximizes yields, but at a price: It depletes soil nutrients, requiring more pesticides and fertilizer while weakening topsoil."

Hartman then quotes Pollan, who says in an e-mail:

"The environmental footprint of HFCS is deep and wide. Look no farther than the dead zone in the Gulf [of Mexico], an area the size of New Jersey where virtually nothing will live because it has been starved of oxygen by the fertilizer runoff coming down the Mississippi from the Corn Belt.

    "Then there is the atrazine in the water in farm country -- a nasty herbicide that, at concentrations as little as 0.1 part per billion, has been shown to turn male frogs into hermaphrodites."


In general I try to eat simple foods.  So why eat a sugar substitute when I could just eat...sugar?  

Tengo un sueño.
by ejmw (ewitham (at) umich (dot) edu) on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 06:49:10 PM EST
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I've started to sweeten my coffee with Sugar in the Raw. Everyone's convinced me that Equal will kill me, and I don't need my sugar bleached and granulated.

Can't hear ya, Peach!
by AP on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 06:56:26 PM EST
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Agave nectar doesn't impact blood sugar levels as much as cane sugar.  Maple syrup, grade B (darkest) has some useful minerals (read up on the Master Cleanse diet for more info).  Honey has medicinal properites.  Stevia has no calories, but can have some aftertaste issues (I don't like licorice, so that kinda skews me away from stevia).

Agave in coffee tastes no different than cane sugar.  Not sure how the others listed above are for baking, but if any appeal, they're potentially worth exploring.

by martini on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 09:39:34 PM EST
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Really? Where should I purchase? Is there a particular brand or no?

Wow...down in the dumps about Wright, tornadoes in my hometown (my family is OK, but really, seeing that as "Breaking News" during Countdown is not my idea of fun), but at least I can get some useful nutritional info! Yay!

That's not snark. I mean that.

Can't hear ya, Peach!

by AP on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 09:50:31 PM EST
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in central Texas, so I go to "hippy" stores like Whole Foods & Sun Harvest for agave nectar.

Here's one brand, the lighter the color, the less it should have any distinctive "flavor" (and thus merely be sweetener)
http://www.madhavahoney.com/agave.htm

by martini on Fri May 2nd, 2008 at 02:47:02 PM EST
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We used to go there quite a bit when I lived in Austin. There was a big ol' Sun Harvest in what I remember as a down-on-its-luck mall somewhere along Ben White. We bought a lot of bulk stuff back in the day. (Still do when we get the chance.)

The avalanche has started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -- Ambassador Kosh
by Omir the Storyteller (omir.the.storyteller -CAT- gmail -DOG- com) on Fri May 2nd, 2008 at 02:52:52 PM EST
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Maple Syrup also has the added benefit of being delicious!

Kill because somebody was killed. Get killed because he killed. Do you think peace will ever come like that?
by Egarwaen on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 09:52:36 PM EST
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Yeah - I find agave to be disgusting!
by eeblet on Tue Apr 29th, 2008 at 02:25:48 AM EST
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Anybody have any experience with Stevia? Is it really any good?

The avalanche has started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -- Ambassador Kosh
by Omir the Storyteller (omir.the.storyteller -CAT- gmail -DOG- com) on Fri May 2nd, 2008 at 03:06:28 PM EST
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You make your own bread?  I'm still stuck on that.  Next time around I'm choosing a guy who bakes his own bread.

"Don't waste your time on the clowns, watch the real show"
by Second Nature on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 06:50:56 PM EST
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Yep!  It's actually really easy, especially if you have a bread machine or mixer to do the kneading for you.  So far I've gotten pretty good at making french bread, baguette, wheat bread, pizza crust, and pita.  I'm getting more proficient with bagels and pretzels, but results are still inconsistent.

Tengo un sueño.
by ejmw (ewitham (at) umich (dot) edu) on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 06:55:44 PM EST
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Really? What kind of bread machine do you suggest? How much time does it take? Mr. AP loves french bread and baguettes, so I'd like to make it for him. At the end of the day, it will end up being cheaper and better tasting.

Do dish...so to speak. :)

Can't hear ya, Peach!

by AP on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 06:58:25 PM EST
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If you have flexible time but not so much energy, here's a method that needs kneading and no machine, uses no oil or sugar, and makes the best bread I've ever tried. I modified it to be like 90% whole wheat, but the method seems to forgive almost any variation. The catch: you let it rise for 18 hours or so (and I do a second 2-hour rise for whole wheat), and you need to find a good heavy metal/glass/ceramic pot/dish with a lid to bake it in at high temp.

If the timing fits the rhythm of your life, this is the one that makes you wonder what you were thinking all these years.

Bush is "the first President to admit to an impeachable offense." --Former Nixon counsel John Dean

by DaveW on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 07:19:00 PM EST
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Should have read "needs no kneading". Kinda blew the whole point there.

Bush is "the first President to admit to an impeachable offense." --Former Nixon counsel John Dean
by DaveW on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 07:30:03 PM EST
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Well, this is the type of bread machine I have, but I have barely scratched the surface of using all its features...I mostly just use the dough setting, which kneads the ingredients into dough and then keeps it at the appropriate temperature to make it rise.

The recipe I use for french bread and french baguettes is almost identical, it's just the end that gets changed.  I use:

1 cup water
1 tablespoon sugar
2 teaspoons salt
3.5 cups bread flour
2 teaspoons active dry yeast
1 or 2 tablespoons olive oil

The water should be warm, 80-100 degrees F.  Mix the yeast in with it, let stand for 5 minutes.  Then add the rest of the ingredients, select dough cycle, and let it do its thing.

Then roll it out into a large rectangle on a lightly floured surface (or a pastry mat...I have one, and it is very helpful!).  If you want baguette, cut the rectangle in half, as there will be enough dough for 2 baguettes.  Roll your rectangle(s) up into their appropriate shape, then cover and let rise again in a warm place for 30-40 minutes.

For baguette, I'll usually mix a little bit of water (maybe 1/4 cup) with an egg white, mix together, and brush it on.  For french bread, I mix about the same amount of water with a teaspoon or so of salt and brush that on, and then sprinkle oregano and on top of the dough.  Bake for about 20 minutes at 400 degrees on a greased cookie sheet, and voila : bread!


(well, except when you make it it won't come out half eaten like this loaf is ;)

Tengo un sueño.
by ejmw (ewitham (at) umich (dot) edu) on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 07:31:07 PM EST
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Wow, thanks for that.

Can't hear ya, Peach!
by AP on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 09:52:02 PM EST
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Ooh, pita...

"Don't waste your time on the clowns, watch the real show"
by Second Nature on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 07:07:17 PM EST
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Years ago we got a bread machine that would work overnight. Nothing better than waking up to that yeasty smell of fresh-baked bread.

She got the bread machine after the divorce. When I first moved to San Francisco I lived on Clement Street in the Inner Richmond and had two French bread bakeries within a few blocks of my apartment. I'd go jogging past them in the morning before I went to work.

by Bob In Pacifica on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 08:01:39 PM EST
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I make my own breads, brioche, pies, pastries, coffee cakes and cakes and not from boxed pre-mixes...starting from basics...organic unbleached, flour without bromides. evaporated cane juice, etc.  

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"
by idredit on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 07:20:11 PM EST
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We have a bread machine that I need to use more. There's nothing much yummier than homemade bread, unless maybe it's homemade bread fresh and hot with homemade cherry jelly on it. If we had the wherewithal to churn our own butter I'd throw that in too.

If the price of flour keeps going up I may have to start baking bread again. It couldn't be easier with a bread machine. You measure/weigh out the ingredients, put them in the machine in the specified order (liquids first, then solids, then the yeast on the top), set the timer to start baking at 3 AM and you get up to the smell of fresh home-baked bread.

The only big trick I can think of is to go to a Costco or similar warehouse store to get your yeast. The stuff you buy in packets over at the supermarket for 60-75 cents a packet or $7 for a 4-oz jar is $3 a pound at our local Cash & Carry and a pound will last you a long, long time.

Geez, now I have to go fix myself some bread tomorrow.

The avalanche has started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -- Ambassador Kosh

by Omir the Storyteller (omir.the.storyteller -CAT- gmail -DOG- com) on Fri May 2nd, 2008 at 03:04:31 PM EST
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That's exactly how I feel, I'd just rather have the sugar.

Fear will keep the local systems in line. -Grand Moff Tarkin Survivor Left Blogistan
by boran2 (blogistan@yahoo.com) on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 08:21:01 PM EST
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Speaking as someone with food allergies, it's always worth paying attention to what goes into your food. Not only will it let you avoid obvious crap like corn syrup, but food with better ingredients typically tastes better. We've got something like six local bakeries here in Halifax, and everything they make tastes better than the crap churned out by the big chain bakeries. Specialist grocery stores are also great, but it's worth remembering that import food isn't always better. Food safety regulations differ a lot from place to place. Imports from Europe are generally good, but India, China, etc. are kind of iffy.

Kill because somebody was killed. Get killed because he killed. Do you think peace will ever come like that?
by Egarwaen on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 07:17:30 PM EST
Check your store to see if they carry Goya brand sodas, the Manzana flavor is about the best I've ever had.
by mikefromtexas on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 08:06:25 PM EST
The Cuban restaurant around the corner has them (not sodas, but nectars); my favorite is Guanabana.

John McCain - Less Jobs More War
by ask on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 10:01:46 PM EST
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At least here in Mass., Goya sodas are made using HFCS.

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When we hear freedom we know it doesn't mean armed occupation. --felagund
by froggywomp on Tue Apr 29th, 2008 at 12:23:47 AM EST
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I avoid most if not all corn syrup and have done so for another of years now.  Most things have good substitues at organic food stores.  Fortunately we have one right near us.

Fear will keep the local systems in line. -Grand Moff Tarkin Survivor Left Blogistan
by boran2 (blogistan@yahoo.com) on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 08:15:27 PM EST
Weren't you wiggin' about oranges recently?  Ah, well, I made the cut because I don't eat citrus. I am saved this time, too, as I haven't consumed any products containing corn in a long-ass time. Corn syrup is the devil! (HRC caliber?hehe)   Maybe my diet is freaky, but it gets me in good with the Booman.  That's all I need...<grin>
by sleepybread (sleepybread@myway.com) on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 09:06:46 PM EST
Both HFCS (corn syrup can also be called "glucose" in Europe) and partially hydrogenated oils are the top two Gross & Ubiquitous things to watch out for.  I don't avoid them entirely, just mostly - I need to get high and eat Twix bars once every month or two.
by eeblet on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 09:46:59 PM EST
Does anyone know what the requirements are for food labeling when it comes to HFCS? I always wonder when I look at an ingredient list and it says "sugar" if it's really sugar or if it's HFCS. I'm thinking of popular brands of bread, crackers, salad dressing, etc. that I swear used to say HFCS or CS on their labels but now say sugar...

Speaking of bread, I just mixed that no-knead recipe up and it's sitting in my microwave :) Now I just have to figure out what to bake it in before tomorrow evening. Anyone know if the glass lid to my crock pot can withstand 475 degree heat?

by conglomerNation (conglomernationNOSPAM (at) gmail.com) on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 10:04:40 PM EST
In the US, sugar is either beet sugar or cane sugar.  In Europe, corn syrup is often listed as "glucose".
by eeblet on Tue Apr 29th, 2008 at 02:26:38 AM EST
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watch out for that Yuengling lager you like Boo, bedcause they lighten the color with...

Brendan Calling John Mccain
by brendan on Tue Apr 29th, 2008 at 07:30:49 AM EST
I thought it was just High Fructose Corn Syrup that was so harmful.
Avoiding processed foods of any kind is probably the most healthful.
by imbarbaric on Tue Apr 29th, 2008 at 11:47:06 AM EST


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Find textbooks at Alibris!

NOTE: Overstock bests Amazon's prices and is "blue."

THE BOOKS WITH "BUZZ":
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Learn the real story behind the WMD in Iraq:

The Way of the World: A Story of Truth and Hope in an Age of Extremism
by Ron Suskind

New from W. Patrick Lang:

The Butcher's Cleaver: A Tale of the Confederate Secret Services by W. Patrick Lang

ManEegee recommends:

The Devil's Highway: A True Story
by Luis Alberto Urrea

Some good history:

Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA
by Tim Weiner

What's going on in Iraq:

Imperial Life in the Emerald City: Inside Iraq's Green Zone
by Raji Chandrasekaran.

On BooMan’s shelf:

The End of Iraq: How American Incompetence Created a War Without End
by Peter W. Galbraith

This looks interesting:

Adventure Divas
by Holly Morris

Here’s a good one from
Elizabeth Gilbert:

Eat Pray Love
by Elizabeth Gilbert

"Crash" * Best Motion Picture, Academy Awards * Only $11.79 at Overstock * 2006 SAG Winner, Best Ensemble

Check out
Powell's new section:
NEW FAVORITES

Selected new arrivals at 30% off

Recommended by Indianadem and ejmw:
The Conscience of a Liberal
by Paul Wellstone

From northcountry’s bookshelf:

The New Golden Age:
The Coming Revolution Against
Political Corruption and Economic Chaos
by Ravi Batra

A novel about contractors in Iraq from the woman that runs The Spy That Billed Me:

Outsourced: A Novel
from RJ Hillhouse.


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Download Sleeper Cell on iTunes (Better than "24") Download Weeds on iTunes (Hilarious 1/2-hour adult comedy starring Mary-Louise Parker) Download Late Nite with Conan O'Brien on iTunes
John Belushi - SNL
Download South Park on iTunes
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James Hunter - People Gonna Talk:
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Great Deals
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Find mystery novels by Nancy Pickard ("Kansas")



Challenging Empire: How People, Governments, and the UN Defy US Power by Phyllis Bennis (interviewed on DN!)


Featured by Keith Olbermann, New (Powell's Sale): Rogue State: A Guide to the World's Only Superpower by William Blum (whose other books merit serious consideration)


"Explosive" State of War: The Secret History of the CIA and the Bush Administration
by James Risen


The book the CIA doesn't want you to read: Jawbreaker: The Attack on Bin Laden and Al Qaeda: A Personal Account by the CIA's Key Field Commander
Larry Johnson's review


BT's all-time best seller:

PERMACULTURE:
A Designers' Manual

$79.95 * Sale: $59.95


Unequal Sisters: A Multicultural Reader in U.S. Women's History (Third Edition)


The Undercover Economist: Exposing Why the Rich Are Rich, the Poor Are Poor And Why You Can Never Buy a Decent Used Car!


The Worst Hard Time: The Untold Story of Those Who Survived the Great American Dust Bowl
by Timothy Egan


Green Press Initiative
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Journalistas: 100 Years of the Best Writing and Reporting by Women Journalists by Eleanor Mills * NYT review


Bury Me Standing: the Gypsies & Their Journey


1491: New Revelations of the Americas before Columbus



Brokeback Mountain
by Annie Proulx
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Check out Powell's
"At The Movies"


Imperial Ambitions: Conversations on the Post-9/11 World by Noam Chomsky (Power & Terror: Post 9-11 Talks)


The Price of Privilege:

How Parental Pressure and
Material Advantage Are Creating a Generation of
Disconnected and Unhappy Kids

by Madeline Levine


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We listened to PEN American Center's "State of Emergency" and found 1940s books by Curzio Malaparte only at Alibris. (Selection (MP3) excerpted from "The Skin.")

Alibris - Books You Thought You'd Never Find
Banned Books * Are you a fan of Film Noir, Art House, Documentaries or Hong Kong Action? * Searching for a long-lost children's book or a first printing of Miles Davis' Kind of Blue on vinyl? Find it at Alibris!

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