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CHANGE vs. EXPERIENCE.

Change will win.

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Wed May 14th, 2008 at 12:16:11 PM EST

I think it'll be (none / 0)

Change versus More of the Same...

I agree with the outcome though. :)

by CabinGirl on Wed May 14th, 2008 at 12:24:54 PM EST
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Re: I think it'll be (none / 0)

And of course, I like your frame better!

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Wed May 14th, 2008 at 12:29:00 PM EST
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From Obama's side:

There is more that connects us than divides us.

From McCain's side:

Don't trust the young black guy.

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Wed May 14th, 2008 at 12:17:02 PM EST

Reality Dawns, crrepingly

CNN

Clinton: It'd be 'terrible mistake' to pick McCain over Obama

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Wed May 14th, 2008 at 04:38:21 PM EST
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'SCARY BLACK MAN OVER THERE!!!'

nalbar

by nalbar (nalbarsatgmaildotcom) on Wed May 14th, 2008 at 12:23:08 PM EST

Re: Open Thread (4.00 / 5)

"Crazy old angry senile flip-flopping white guy is Bush!"

"Crazy secretly Muslim liberal effete black guy is Carter!"

by Zandar1 on Wed May 14th, 2008 at 12:29:59 PM EST
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LOL!

You nailed it.

nalbar

by nalbar (nalbarsatgmaildotcom) on Wed May 14th, 2008 at 12:38:36 PM EST
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Wow - that's incredibly spot on!

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Wed May 14th, 2008 at 12:46:55 PM EST
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We ain't seen nothing yet on that front!

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Wed May 14th, 2008 at 12:29:14 PM EST
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Also - expect a lot of HOPE vs. FEAR. McCain will tell us of all the terrorists coming to get us, and how Obama is too inexperienced to protect us.

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Wed May 14th, 2008 at 12:29:46 PM EST

Kittens. Adorable ass kittens. There's your election theme.

by Chris on Wed May 14th, 2008 at 01:20:27 PM EST

I prefer cuy.

Latino Político | "We are condemned to kill time, thus we die bit by bit." - Octavio Paz

by Man Eegee (man.eegee at gmail.com) on Wed May 14th, 2008 at 01:27:06 PM EST
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Yum. I was also thinking that Obama and McCain could each choose their favorite Sonny Rollins album, write it down on a piece of scrap paper to be held by Kathleen Harris and not revealed until the conclusion of the election. The American people could weigh in, at a series of outdoor cuy barbecues and wine tastings, on their favorite Sonny Rollins album. They would also write down their choices on a scrap of paper to be held and counted by Antonin Scalia. If either one of the candidates favorite album is the one selected, then obviously they would win. If neither was selected then some combination of time difference between the recordings, number of common sidemen and that type of thing would be used determine the winner. If the American people choose one of the Steely Dan albums Sonny appeared on, effective control of the U.S. Government would be turned over to a coalition of Mexico and Sweden. Then we'd all be drugged and deported in the middle of the night.

by Chris on Wed May 14th, 2008 at 02:07:45 PM EST
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great, looks like my plans to apply for dual-citizenship will be very timely.

Latino Político | "We are condemned to kill time, thus we die bit by bit." - Octavio Paz

by Man Eegee (man.eegee at gmail.com) on Wed May 14th, 2008 at 02:21:22 PM EST
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MY MAN!!! (none / 0)

Finally!!!

A solution to our ills.

P.S. I vote for "The Bridge"

Goodness had nothing to do with it, dearie.-Mae West

by Arthur Gilroy (arthurgilroy<at>earthlink.net) on Wed May 14th, 2008 at 04:15:03 PM EST
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Good choice. And, if it won, it would carry the side benefit of not having us deported. I can see entire media strategies being devised around this. If you don't welcome our new Swedish overlords or look forward to your eventual deportation, scribble Saxophone Colossus on a scrap of paper when you attend the BBQ and Wine Tasting next week.

by Chris on Wed May 14th, 2008 at 04:51:51 PM EST
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"BBQ and Wine Tasting!!!???"

Oh GOODIE!!!

Where?

AG

Goodness had nothing to do with it, dearie.-Mae West

by Arthur Gilroy (arthurgilroy<at>earthlink.net) on Wed May 14th, 2008 at 05:04:51 PM EST
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Well, that's where the voting takes place. I was originally thinking about having it in a central location like New Jersey, but I guess that wouldn't be fair to people who don't live in either the New York or Philadelphia areas. Apparently the country extends West a bit. I guess we'd have to hold a bunch of them. Sort of like a traveling carnival featuring a sweaty, stinky Antonin Scalia collecting scraps of paper and cocktail napkins with Sonny Rollins album titles scribbled on them. As per Man Eegee's suggestion, we'd also need to round up a ton of guinea pigs.

One problem this presents is how to keep the candidates from revealing their choice while the voting is still going. What's to keep Obama or McCain from posing for pictures while standing in the middle of the desert dressed up like a cowboy for instance? Some sort of an isolation chamber or a medically induced coma would probably be a workable solution.

by Chris on Wed May 14th, 2008 at 05:36:57 PM EST
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I just KNEW that album was going to be at the end of the above link.

P.S. I believe that the campaign itself serves as a sort of isolation chamber or else all of the candidates would have a better idea of what the people on the ground are really thinking, and as far as "medically induced comas" are concerned? I have a strong suspicion that after a year of campaigning they are already in some sort of coma...probably at least partially induced by the amount of Big Pharma meds that they must be taking to endure the travel and publicity pace.

Later...

AG

Goodness had nothing to do with it, dearie.-Mae West

by Arthur Gilroy (arthurgilroy<at>earthlink.net) on Wed May 14th, 2008 at 07:38:46 PM EST
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What's an ass kitten?

Tengo un sueño.

by ejmw (ewitham (at) umich (dot) edu) on Wed May 14th, 2008 at 02:03:09 PM EST
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Well "ass" in this context is part of the "adorable" modifier, so there really isn't an "ass kitten". You can't really use "assed" as in "Adorable assed kitten" because then you'd be making a judgement on the adorableness of cat asses. Probably not something you should admit to.

by Chris on Wed May 14th, 2008 at 02:12:43 PM EST
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Just wanted to make sure. I was hoping that it wasn't some specially bred cat set to take over duties from Richard Gere's gerbil.

Tengo un sueño.

by ejmw (ewitham (at) umich (dot) edu) on Wed May 14th, 2008 at 02:24:05 PM EST
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Re: Open Thread: Can't make this stuff up (none / 1)

via Crooks and Liars: GOP has chosen very well - it's actually a cry for HELP:

GOP's new slogan - "The Change you deserve"
just also happens to be the registered marketing slogan for an anti-depressant drug - Effexor XR.... also known as Venlafaxine, is approved for the treatment "of depression, generalized anxiety disorder, social anxiety disorder, and panic disorder in adults."

ya betcha.
put in a call to UPS...send over a truck load

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Wed May 14th, 2008 at 01:31:03 PM EST

Re: Open Thread: Can't make this stuff up (4.00 / 2)

The irony grows. The makers of Effexor XR got slapped by the FDA for exaggerating the effectiveness of their product in their advertising.

by RandyH on Wed May 14th, 2008 at 02:57:48 PM EST
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Themes for the upcoming Presidential campaign:

Obama's dead mother was a Red.
Obama's half brother is a revolutionary in Kenya.
Obama is still channeling Reverend Wright.
Obama favors black people.
Obama is angry. And black.
Obama helped build bombs back in the sixties with the Ayers guy.
McCain is a swell guy, he's kind of a maverick, he jokes around and he'll wear a flag pin, unlike someone else.
Did you see the picture of Obama dressed like a Muslim?
Obama's middle name is Hussein. What does that tell you?

by Bob In Pacifica on Wed May 14th, 2008 at 02:58:17 PM EST