Garin argued that the North Carolina contest, which Obama won by 14 points, represented "progress" for Hillary because she did better among white voters there than she did in Virginia.

TPM

talk about sore losers...it's over hillary, give it up.

and, imo, it's not sad, it's the natural conclusion to one of the most divisive, and bitter campaigns in my memory, and a predictable coda.

the revolution will not be televised...

50 years of race and politics among Democrats has gotten us to Hillary Clinton today.

She's basically saying "What are you going to do if I'm the nominee, vote McCain?  You'll come crawling back.  You will support me in 2008 because you have no other choice."

And she's right.  In the end I would vote for Hillary to keep John McCain out of the White House.

But you know what?  Right now I have a choice, and it's Obama.

More at Zandar vs. The Stupid.

What they don't get was that it was not a win.  It was a strategic maneuver within the Democratic party parameters.  

   1.  Took away with the race card game the AA voters.(HRC and Bill pissed of those voters (Jessee Jackson, Cocaine, Roll the Dice, MLK comments) and never tried to get them back. BO earned their vote and not just by him being black. He is half white by the way.)
   2.  The Caucus Strategy. (Would they be complaining about caucuses if they were not out organized and lost them? Al Gore and John Kerry won caucuses)
   3.  Shutting out Fl and Mi took away Hillary big state momentum. (Hillary and her advisers agreed to the rules of MI&FL. Every dem prez candidate took their name off the ballot in MI but her. No candidates campaigned in FL. The FL/MI argument is just sour grapes and they are pissing off the voters in their state by complaining about it.)
   4.  If you looked at the numbers, it was a squeeker. (Yes, a close win is still a win)
   5.  He never got above X % on the white vote. ( I do not know what that means but Gore/Clinton/Kerry never won the majority of white vote in the General. BO on average won 4 out of every 10 white votes and almost over 50% of white voters under 65.)
   6.  The Dem primary rules were played, and played well, that does not translate into a GE win. (Yes, according to the rules, winning the primary does not give you the presidency. I thought Clinton supporters hated applying facts and rules.)
   7.  His race transcended and unity guy has been broken. (I see way more things broken than his unity appeal. HRC supporters dream of her being president and current US domestic/foreign policy.)

Blue Tidal Wave

I stopped by at TalkLeft and my privileges have been restored, meaning that I can read the comments. I noticed a thread where someone stated that with Obama that blacks were taking over the Democratic Party. And as far down the thread as I could stand to read I didn't see anyone challenge that or suggest that the comment was racist and paranoid. Yesterday Zandar was writing about the racism and I tried to play it down, but when I see things like that I know there is much more of the iceberg under the water.

An injury to one is an injury to all. As a shop steward I defended people of all sexes, ethnic and racial groups, and ages, using the language in our contract that demands equal protection. Ultimately, it's the reactionaries that want to divide us up and conquer us.

In the next 72 hours she faces a choice between her own ambitions or her country.

Would seem that even her own ambition and Senate career would dictate a quick and graceful exit.

Not holding breath for either.

Give me liberty or give me a gun.

the Clintons are a fraud. they came out of Arkansas, had to have indulged in a tad of Orval Faubus, George Wallace.

A lot of us saw through them when they ran for the presidency in 1992, when they went into the black churches, courted black leaders because they knew blacks represented a large chunk of the Democratic Party base.

This time around, up against an African-American, they knew which group to court and they weren't shy.

All a pretense. Too many slips of the tongue during this cycle.

One Drop- Too Sense

Fellow White Folks: It Is Time to Denounce and Reject Hillary Clinton

Is Hillary herself racist? Perhaps not, but at this point it no longer matters. The practical effect of her conduct is the same as it would be if Bull Connor were the one using her tactics. No...scratch that. Her impact is worse, because she came into this whole sad affair cloaked in her husband's popularity in the black community. She is generally presumed not to be a racist, so people do not discount what she says in the same way that they would if David Duke were talking. They don't scrutinize her actions in the same way that they would if she was a Theodore Bilbo. Her presumed innocence on questions of race has allowed her to act far more freely, and do far more damage, than would otherwise have been possible.

Well, it is time for that presumption to end. We have got to wake up and pay attention to what is happening here. This rhetoric is truly toxic:

Will Bunch

..being a white person, if I can follow this bizarre statement from Hillary Clinton:

"I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on," she said in an interview with USA TODAY. As evidence, Clinton cited an Associated Press article "that found how Sen. Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me."

I'm not one of those people who thinks that Clinton needs to leave the race, but statements like this may change some people's minds.

George Stephanpoulos suggested she's negotiating for the VP spot?

If we wouldn't vote for her as a candidate how do you think we'll vote for an Obama-Clinton ticket?

The betrayal would be complete!

We do have long memories too.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

Just read the comments on this board. Talk about poor sports/losers. I am done posting about talk left.

HRC's bigot comments are deplorable. Maybe she can go chug some moonshine this weekend in WV. HEE HAW.  

Blue Tidal Wave

It would not be alright for Pelosi or Dean to say they prefer Obama without the Clinton camp screeching, but no problem with Clinton pulling the race card, the patriotism card, the commander in chief card, the break the rules card... With these many in her Tarot deck one should not be surprised at her penchant to predict future!