Larry Johnson started his blog in support of Valerie Plame and against the Bush administration. He's been very outspoken against the Bushies. He and Susan said they'd support the Democratic candidate before the race came down to Clinton and Obama. So, no I don't understand their animosity. It's senseless.

Leslie

We had a chance to elect a woman President for the first time in our nation's history, and it was a realistic chance, and we were all excited about the possibility. Then along comes this upstart who cuts her campaign off at the knees, thereby ensuring that our candidate won't get elected. Not only that, this upstart was a black man; and we think this country would be ready to elect a woman before it would elect a black man. So essentially our chance at getting what we want has been hijacked by a man who has no chance of being elected President.

I think many of these women would have voted Republican if the Republicans were running a woman for President.

My read on the sitation, I readily admit I could be wrong or overgeneralizing.

"This is Barack Obama's party now." -- Chuck Todd

Edwards is rich, and as you know, rich people can't possibly care about poor people.

Unless they're Republicans.

Or something.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to you country.

My sister asked to see her evidence. It was a Publishers Clearing House mailing or something similar.

This is ridiculous. I hope Johnson is prepared to be laughed out of polite society from here on out.

"This is Barack Obama's party now." -- Chuck Todd

What a loss for the blogosphere to see those to self-destruct and destroy their site in this way.

What's interesting is that No Quarter, the most vituperative of the three you ran, is showing a growing dominance, with Talk Left previously the unrivaled leader, tanking. NQ's tactics are putting them on par with Talk Left at this point, the data show. The most virulently anti-Obama crowd is taking their rancid bait, and rewarding them for their efforts.

Nice job, although I'd rather not have to worry about what those guys are up to, but this is just a reminder it's not over until November. How Johnson doesn't come out full-bore for McCain after all this, I don't know, unless they can get Clinton in somehow.

I doubt the site will ever return to the valuable, quality site it was - sad.

Geraldo had on a Democratic strategist Brown who countered Roger Stone pretty well. Brown said [I'm paraphrasing], this is a GOP strategy. This is what the GOP does. When they can't debate the issues, they launch personal attacks.

Leslie

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Like others above, I started reading NQ because of the good insights he offered into the Plame case (a case which rightly shocked people all over the political spectrum).  Stopped reading bc I got a general sense that "he didn't like my kind" (Jewish in this case), but that's not unheard-of in the ol' progressive blogosphere, and there are lots of other sites to read...  (BTW I'm not saying it's a crisis, just saying what vibe I got.)

Then, what, two years later, I read such a bunch of spite and racist bilge about Michelle Obama on what I'd still figured was a worthwhile site,  -- I was pretty stunned.  Yes, SPLC level.  Like, huh[1]????

Sad, and unnecessary, and dangerous.  I'll hope for a great and generous-spirited turnaround.    Odd things happen when people get carried away.  (And I won't assume LJ represents all his coworkers, anymore than I would assume that all former Illinoians (?)  who live in Westchester County NY are liars!  Yes that's an HRC ref.)

[1] I was disappointed when Joe Wilson endorsed HRC, but it's understandable that someone who's worked in so many administrations would go for the whole "insider/ experience" line.  And Obama's original health plan might not be as good as other candidates', what do I know??  But to say the things that SusanHu did about a candidate's spouse... stuff that makes no sense at all except if she were recruiting for a white-supremacist organization...  

BooMan, good thoughts to you.  Like Sen. Obama has suggested, we've all got a crazy uncle or friend or grandmother that holds views we find objectionable, and looking at what actions  people take does seem like the best rule.

Following orders.

bet on it.

He's probably a very nice sorta company cop.

If of course you like the type.

I don't, myself.

The only "good" Germans during Hitler's years?

They were the ones who opposed him.

Booman's first mistake was to give this guy a forum for his propaganda.

Propaganda changes, but its aim remains the same.

Bet on it.

AG

Goodness had nothing to do with it, dearie.-Mae West

A few months ago I started getting suspicious about the Plame case. Specifically, both Larissa Alexandrovna and Sibel Edmonds reported that Valerie Plame's cover, Brewster Jennings, had its cover blown in 2001 by people within the government who were dealing with the shadow ring of arms traders (if you don't know the Sibel Edmonds story, catch up). This pokes a couple of holes in the general narrative.

First off, the whole story of Plame being outed can't be true if Brewster Jennings had already been exposed. The White House would have known B-J was kaput (their allies within had done the kaputting; see: Safari Club et al). Second, how long does it take for a CIA operation to notice that it's been outed? Two years? And how long does it take a CIA agent who's part of an entire operation that's been blown to notice that the arms dealers who want uranium just don't talk with her anymore? And is the CIA so independent of the executive branch that it really goes after prosecuting the executive branch over one of its agents? And is the Justice Department so free of influence from the President that it prosecutes people leading directly to the Prez?

Is the reason why Plame was back working at Langley because the operation had already been blown? And if that was the case, how much of the rest of it, the "yellowcake-Republican diplomat writing in the NYTimes (which was Judith Millering the war at the time)-wife's exposure" narrative was real and how much of it was professional wrestling for our benefit?

And even if the narrative survives scrutiny, who's to say that Larry Johnson's initial cheerleading for Plame was anything more than an attempt to give him legitimacy within the Left prior to this election cycle?

Johnson, an anti-terror expert (which often means "our man with the plyers, or our man standing behind the man with the plyers"), very quickly moved from defending a CIA agent (who's backing Hillary for what reason again?) to becoming an agit-propagandist for Hillary. It wasn't a terribly smooth transition. We also have the old warhorse CIA propagandist Gloria Steinem doing some agit-prop for Hillary. Johnson seems to be targeting and generating racist hatred, and Steinem's strategy is divisive gender memes with a little racism tossed in. We have H. Clinton's "oppo research" as reported by Robert Parry which includes Reverend Wright (religious/racist divisiveness) and William Ayers (ancient historical political divisiveness from another era of government activism).

And then there's Taylor Marsh, the woman who's history has been created and paid for by someone or something.

In summation, there are a lot of toilers in Hillary's fields who either are spooks or who act like spooks. If they were trying to overthrow a regime in Latin America or Africa or Southeast Asia I doubt most people here would have a problem identifying them or their work.

We're not in Bogota anymore. But we might as well be. How much is Bill Clinton paid for those Colombia free trade speeches?