Well, I don't support Hillary Clinton.  I saw forst hand her record in the Senate as my Senator.  And I never approved of the DLC leadership which appeared to eb the biggest establishment faction which supported her candidacy.  Republican Lite was the best that one could say for them.  The party of Mr. Carville, Mr. Begala, Mr. Ickes, etc. would be just as bought and paid for as any Republican administration.  Hillary could have distanced herself from that wing of the party.  She could have made her mea culpas for her Iraq vote like Edwards did.  But she didn't.  She embraced the party of NAFTA and triangulation.  She could have been a great candidate, but she never gave herself the opportunity.  Or didn't have it in her.

But I don't think Obama drove Clinton supporters away from him.  The Clinton campaign did that through its negative, kitchen sink, play the race card at every opportunity, run Obama down, least common denominator strategy.  She was the one who said Obama would be a less qualified commander in chief than bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.  She was the one who demonized him to her supporters, claiming he was the elitist while sitting on a 109 million dollar fortune that her husband and she obtained based on his and her celebrity.  She was the one who said lobbyists are people too, and told the activists to take a hike.

So I don't think I need moral authority to ask people what do you want for this country.  I know what I want.  Maybe some Clinton supporters just want vengeance against Obama for running a better campaign than she did and keeping her from being the first female nominee of a major party to run for President.  I want to keep the Republicans from ever getting control of the White House again during th e remainder of my lifetime, and hopefully my children's lifetimes as well.  You decide which of those is a worthier goal.

Obama is a Patriot

Not really. Nobody has threatened to vote for McCain no matter how despicable the Clinton campaign has gotten at times. There is a huge difference between being disgusted at the blatant racism of the Clinton campaign to the extent you wouldn't vote for her and whining about how you're going to vote for the Republican candidate if you don't get your way.

Obviously I haven't read every single diary here during the entirety of the primary season, but honestly I don't recall any regular front page posters saying absolutely no to voting for Hillary as a general election candidate or saying that McCain would be preferred over Hillary.  If I missed it, I would welcome a link.  And that's not to say the a commenter might not have said such a thing.  The sense that I have gotten is that it is, by and large, Hillary's tactics which have been looked on here as profoundly damaging to the party and many feel they have often times have been based on gross misrepresentation of the realities.  Most dissatisfaction seems to be based on the tactics, and not the individual. Let me say that this is just the sense that I have gotten from reading every day.  I have not statistical data to reference, just my personal impression.

And the questions which were posed in Steven's video references are entirely legitimate and are questions which would need to be seriously pondered, regardless of the Democratic candidate.  Because these questions are truly the reality of the choice we face in November.

There has certainly been a lot of water under the bridge during this primary and there are many very deeply hurt feelings on both sides.  As for me, I have been an Obama supporter virtually from the beginning, but even with what has happened, I could not imagine making a decision to vote for McCain over a Hillary Clinton as the Democratic candidate.  It would just be so at odds with what we all know needs to be done; a total repudiation and reversal of all the havoc which the Republicans have wrought for the last eight years.  For anyone who claims to be a Democrat to lose sight of this at such a critical juncture would have to be truly mad, either mad with rage or just plain crazy.

"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity"