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The Tea Leaves

by BooMan
Thu Aug 21st, 2008 at 04:05:42 PM EST

Well, the Obama campaign has successfully stumped me on the whole running-mate question. I have no idea. Here's their schedule leading up to his acceptance of the nomination:

SATURDAY, AUGUST 23, 2008
Campaign Event with Barack Obama
Old State Capitol
Springfield, IL
Gates open: 12:00 pm
This event is free and open to the public. RSVP is strongly encouraged, please visit www.barackobama.com/springfield

Sunday, August 24, 2008
Eau Claire, Wisconsin

Monday, August 25, 2008
Quad Cities area, Iowa

Tuesday, August 26, 2008
Kansas City, Missouri

Wednesday, August 27, 2008
Billings, Montana

Thursday, August 28, 2008
Denver, Colorado

USA Today reports that Barack Obama has made his selection:

Obama said he wanted somebody who is "prepared to be president" and who will be "a partner with me in strengthening this economy for the middle class and working families."
He said he was looking for not just a partner but a sparring partner. "I want somebody who's independent, somebody who can push against my preconceived notions and challenge me so we have got a robust debate in the White House."

Just look at the adjectives: 'prepared', 'partner (on the economy)', 'independent'. I'd expect Obama to argue that any possible running-mate is prepared and good on the economy. But 'independent'? That might narrow things down a little. Obama seems to be hitting this idea that his partner will not be an ideological twin. Sens. Hagel and Lugar would sure fit that bill. I guess Evan Bayh would, too. But so would someone like Russ Feingold or, perhaps, Montana Governor Brian Schweitzer. Obama will travel to Eau Claire, Wisconsin and Billings, Montana, which could serve as launching points for the vee-pee announcement. Kansas City could serve the same purpose for Sen. Claire McCaskill, or Govs. Kathleen Sebelius of Kansas and Tim Kaine of Virginia (who grew up there).

I'm not feeling Joe Biden here. But who knows?

The Tea Leaves | 29 comments (29 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: The Tea Leaves (4.00 / 2)

So would Al Gore. Don't count him out. Getting him to run would be the coup of the century. Al is just patriotic enough to do it, too, and would he ever be tough on the stump.

Knut

by Knut Wicksell (b_didnn@hotmail.ca) on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 at 04:12:22 PM EST

Re: The Tea Leaves (none / 0)

I agree, but there's no Gore in these entrails.

by BooMan on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 at 04:15:23 PM EST
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Re: The Tea Leaves (none / 0)

In another thread someone pointed out Obama made a slip yesterday when speaking of his VP - Obama said he and did not correct to add "he or she"

Dodd, Clinton, Sebelius, Kaine or a dark horse under the radar. Kaine was really sharp on the McCain houses: "he can't count high enough"

I'm not counting out Gore he lends weight, 90s prosperity an foreign policy creds - Also would be a nice payback.... campaigning on the meme "we have to clean out the muck and mold from the Executive branch."

It'll be a total surprise. No leaks. This is on disciplined campaign team.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 at 04:50:27 PM EST
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Gore! Entrails! (none / 1)

I get it! Arf arf arf arf!

I'm doing a panel on Blogs and the Media at VCon, Oct 4, Vancouver BC

by Omir the Storyteller (omir.the.storyteller -CAT- gmail -DOG- com) on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 at 07:36:55 PM EST
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Re: The Tea Leaves (none / 0)

I thought Obama was supposed to be announcing his VP pick before Saturday - or did that turn out to be just a rumor?

(I've been expecting the announcement to come today - I wonder if the big push to exploit McCain's little house gaffe bumped the big announcement back a bit.)

by nonynony on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 at 04:13:39 PM EST

Re: The Tea Leaves (none / 0)

well, he can announce it in Springfield and then head to KC or Billings to celebrate.

by BooMan on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 at 04:16:30 PM EST
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Re: The Tea Leaves (none / 0)

I guess my point is that I'd be more curious about where he's going to be BEFORE the kick-off in Springfield, rather than after it. If the announcement is going to come before Saturday, it would make sense if it occurred in the VP's home state (at least to me).

by nonynony on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 at 04:35:48 PM EST
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Re: The Tea Leaves (none / 0)

Me too, but today is pretty much over.

I suspect we'll find out tomorrow. Montana, huh? I still think Schweitzer is a dark horse and the people of Montana would like him to stay right where he is, but hey, I'm not running this campaign. And it's a good thing too.

I'm doing a panel on Blogs and the Media at VCon, Oct 4, Vancouver BC

by Omir the Storyteller (omir.the.storyteller -CAT- gmail -DOG- com) on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 at 07:39:40 PM EST
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Re: The Tea Leaves (none / 0)

it'd be an interesting pick, one l could get behind. but you're right, the people up there would like to keep him...and he's running for re-election this year.

another interesting note, his lt. gov., bohlinger is a republican...which in montana is more like the libertarian-lite, classic definition.

the revolution will not be televised...Peace

by dada on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 at 07:51:22 PM EST
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Man...! (none / 0)

I'm just gonna wait for my text message and enjoy hearing Exxon John say that he'll need his staff to get back us, since he has so many houses he's losing track of them all.

Presumptuous is the new uppity.

by AP on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 at 05:05:17 PM EST

Re: Man...! (none / 0)

We were just checking out all the video of the responses to McCain's inability to remember how many houses he owns... priceless.

I hope that's being covered in the evening news.

(ps, did you ever get my email?)

by CabinGirl on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 at 05:35:45 PM EST
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Re: Man...! (none / 0)

No--yikes! Let me go check right now!

Presumptuous is the new uppity.

by AP on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 at 05:55:07 PM EST
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Re: Man...! (none / 0)

It was in response to your September plans, so it's probably a little old. I'll send another.

by CabinGirl on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 at 06:53:42 PM EST
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Re: Man...! (none / 0)

nice to see you CG.

McCain has now turned tables and their response is to link Obama's house to Rezko, the convicted real estate developer on influence peddling.

Now since Mccain went there, (pot call kettle) Imho it is quite legitimate that Obama hit back at McCain with the Abramoff-Reed and the McCain's early years -the Keating Five Scandal - that ended up costing taxpayers a not too small change.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 at 06:00:07 PM EST
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Re: Man...! (none / 1)

I wouldn't concede that he's turned the tables, but if Exxon John wants to raise Rezko--something that's been investigated fully--then bring on Keating, and certainly bring on Abramoff.

Like his multiple homes, he can't keep track of all his dirt.

Presumptuous is the new uppity.

by AP on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 at 06:07:53 PM EST
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Good to see you too (none / 0)

I guess we're moving into high political season now...I think Obama will swing back against whatever McStain dishes out, though.

by CabinGirl on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 at 06:55:38 PM EST
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Re: Man...! (none / 0)

I'm searching...not seeing it? Was it new mail? Smooches.

Presumptuous is the new uppity.

by AP on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 at 06:01:58 PM EST
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Those videos are an embarrasment of riches (none / 0)

Like someone over at Big Orange said, today was a really bad day to be John McCain.

I'm doing a panel on Blogs and the Media at VCon, Oct 4, Vancouver BC

by Omir the Storyteller (omir.the.storyteller -CAT- gmail -DOG- com) on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 at 07:42:21 PM EST
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I'm betting the pick comes tomorrow.

"Seven houses" is this year's "invented the internet".

More at Zandar vs. The Stupid.

by Zandar1 on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 at 05:26:49 PM EST

Re: The Tea Leaves (none / 0)

No it's eight: but you're on to something

A TPM find:

McCains Bought Second Beach Condo At Around Time McCain Said Struggling Homeowners Needed To Skip Vacations
It turns out that a few months ago, a McCain family corporation closed on a second multi-million-dollar beach condo in the same building in exclusive Coronado, California -- at around the same time that John McCain offered his somewhat tone-deaf observation that struggling homeowners were "working at second jobs" and "skipping a vacation" in order to make mortgage payments on time.
[.]
And in another fun fact that could pour fuel on this controversy, Cindy told her interviewer that the reason they needed a second beach condo in the Coronado building was that the first was too crowded because her kids were staying there and as a result she "couldn't get in the place."
(highlights added)

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 at 06:06:52 PM EST
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Re: The Tea Leaves (none / 0)

link to
Talking Points Memo

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 at 06:08:03 PM EST
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Have you seen the clip where she talks about needing to use a private plane to campaign for his senate seat, and liking it so much she had to go buy her own little plane?

Yep they're regular folks, those two.

by CabinGirl on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 at 06:58:28 PM EST
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It is as obvious as the sun (none / 0)

It is Hillary.

by Delaware Dem on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 at 06:08:47 PM EST

Re: It is as obvious as the sun (none / 0)

i think you are right...

"Just look at the adjectives: 'prepared', 'partner (on the economy)', 'independent'. I'd expect Obama to argue that any possible running-mate is prepared and good on the economy. But 'independent'? That might narrow things down a little. "

there has been enough time for the dust to settle, and for them to kiss and make up behind closed doors.
and much as i am not a fan of hers, she is a fighter.

The sleep of reason begets tyrants. -Goya

by joe in oklahoma on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 at 06:15:10 PM EST
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Re: It is as obvious as the sun (none / 0)

You are so funny.

by CabinGirl on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 at 06:59:15 PM EST
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Just watch. (none / 0)

Obama-Clinton

by Delaware Dem on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 at 07:29:04 PM EST
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Re: Just watch. (none / 0)

Wager?

The Underground Railroad

by Oscar In Louisville on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 at 07:35:22 PM EST
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Yeah, but not like you think (none / 0)

It's gonna be Chelsea Clinton.

Or maybe Bubba's half brother Roger . . . remmember him?

I'm doing a panel on Blogs and the Media at VCon, Oct 4, Vancouver BC

by Omir the Storyteller (omir.the.storyteller -CAT- gmail -DOG- com) on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 at 07:44:56 PM EST
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An "independent" who challenges Obama's preconceived notions...sounds like Joe Lieberman!

by liberaljournal on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 at 07:59:42 PM EST

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