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Nader Wanks

by BooMan
Fri Aug 22nd, 2008 at 11:17:27 AM EST

If you wanted to make the argument that there really isn't any difference between the two major parties, you might advocate this:

Independent presidential candidate Ralph Nader said Clinton is the smart choice because she is the only person who would help Obama get more votes.

"And if he's going to say, 'One people, one nation,' he can raise the banner of unity with her as his vice presidential running mate," he said Thursday on "American Morning."

Nader also told the Politico Web site that Obama wouldn't be "that dumb" to pick Bayh or Biden to be vice president.

And when Obama takes his advice?



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Is this what he needs to do get some press?

Nader can bite me. Just another narcissistic, jealous wanker. Maybe he and Rev. Jesse Jackson can be best buds and keep each other company.

Maybe he'd find Rev. Jackson's company sufficiently "Black" for him. Idiot.

Can't hear ya, Peach!

by AP on Fri Aug 22nd, 2008 at 11:23:48 AM EST
Useful idiot.
by BooMan on Fri Aug 22nd, 2008 at 11:47:55 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I made a list the other day of people I could no longer stomach reading about, I forgot to add Nader.  Then again, I just read your piece.  Dammit.
by RollaMO on Fri Aug 22nd, 2008 at 11:25:05 AM EST
Politico's Ben Smith reports from the AP guys that Rep. Chet Edwards (D-TX) floated by Nancy Pelosi was vetted by the Obama camp and emerging as a finalist.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"
by idredit on Fri Aug 22nd, 2008 at 11:57:37 AM EST
And when Obama takes his advice?

Verily, in that day shall the dog lie down with the cat, and the sky shall be black from the flight of pigs.

I hope.

I for one welcome our new Twitter overlords. @Omir55

by Omir the Storyteller (omir.the.storyteller -CAT- gmail -DOG- com) on Fri Aug 22nd, 2008 at 11:59:50 AM EST
by Second Nature (denn1214 at gmail) on Fri Aug 22nd, 2008 at 12:07:36 PM EST
[ Parent ]
That cat is plotting something.

Probably something like this:



I for one welcome our new Twitter overlords. @Omir55

by Omir the Storyteller (omir.the.storyteller -CAT- gmail -DOG- com) on Fri Aug 22nd, 2008 at 07:41:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Which is more likely, Obama/Hillary or McSame/Petraeus?

More at Zandar vs. The Stupid.
by Zandar1 on Fri Aug 22nd, 2008 at 12:27:46 PM EST
they are equally unlikely.  
by BooMan on Fri Aug 22nd, 2008 at 12:33:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]
We'll see.  I just wish Obama would tell people, dammit.  The closer it gets to Saturday, the more I think it's Hillary.

More at Zandar vs. The Stupid.
by Zandar1 on Fri Aug 22nd, 2008 at 12:55:14 PM EST
[ Parent ]
it's reported Hillary has NOT been vetted...Bill Clinton can't be vetted..all those dollars from foreign sources in his presidential library..not to mention the whole Clinton baggage...and behavior during the primaries.

I'd be very disappointed if it's Biden.

If John Kerry was labeled a Gigolo, why not John McCain?

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Fri Aug 22nd, 2008 at 01:53:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]
You really have to wonder.

digby kinda had the same reflexive reaction I did when I read this:

Obama said he wanted somebody who is "prepared to be president" and who will be "a partner with me in strengthening this economy for the middle class and working families."

He said he was looking for not just a partner but a sparring partner. "I want somebody who's independent, somebody who can push against my preconceived notions and challenge me so we have got a robust debate in the White House."

I wrote before that the Obama campaign has a flair for the theatrical and picking Clinton, after all the sturm and drang of the primaries and all this suspense of the last few weeks, is definitely a dramatic choice.

But who the hell knows? For all I know Tim Kaine is a real scrapper behind closed doors. But his hitting those themes about the middle class and working families (and being "challenged") just sounded like Clinton to me when I read it. Could just as easily be Biden.

In the end, those who are right can toot their own horn.  Those who are wrong (the vast majority) can second guess for the rest of their lives.

"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity"

by MikeInOhio on Fri Aug 22nd, 2008 at 12:37:35 PM EST
i dont find that to be wankery

i find it surprisingly intuitive

regardless of what a few left wing bloggers feel, 18 million people voted for clinton. that means something.

by anna in philly (flymetothemoon@yahoo.com) on Fri Aug 22nd, 2008 at 02:21:27 PM EST
link


Nader:
"I was just saying that, if he wanted a plus for his campaign, Hillary Clinton would get him more votes than anyone else, because -- if only in a negative way, because a quarter of her supporters have not jumped on board of the Obama bandwagon. They're flirting with McCain"

"Well, it's a quarter of her supporters, according to the polls, of Hillary supporters. That's -- that is a lot of people, especially in a close election.

The other candidates they are tossing around, just they won't give him much at all in terms of votes. And I doubt whether they will even give him an extra state. But Hillary and her supporters can give him a lot of money. And he's need three or four times what McCain is going to receive from the public funding of $83 million.

And she has got a lot of very, very vigorous supporters, you know, knocking on doors, and grassroot get-out-the-vote. So, you remember, John F. Kennedy did not like Lyndon Johnson. They were really not friends. But he picked him. And Johnson delivered Texas and won the election against Richard Nixon. So, it's a..."

Show me where he's wrong? Maybe Bayh gives him Indiana, as you've said, but he's not wrong about the vitality of her supporters or even the sheer numbers should would bring on right off the bat. How is he wrong?
I'm asking.

 

Green Grass and High Tides Forever

by supersoling (colorsplash62@optonline.net) on Fri Aug 22nd, 2008 at 07:03:37 PM EST


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