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A better financial rescue plan [w/update 2]

by Alexander
Sat Sep 27th, 2008 at 09:22:00 PM EST

The Johns Hopkins economist Christopher Carroll has an interesting blog entry describing rescue plan which has been proposed by economists  which is better than Paulson's, and expressing puzzlement about why this alternate plan has been completely ignored in Washington. This plan involves temporary nationalization, something that was done by Sweden when it had a financial crisis in 1992.

In talking to people involved in the inside-baseball political side of the discussion on Capitol Hill, I get the impression that they are very unhappy about being asked to sign on to this bill, but are planning to do it because they have been told that if they don't sign on the dotted line then the apocalypse is around the corner.

The KEY point that I think is not penetrating from the economists to the Congress is that what sticks in our craw is ONE SPECIFIC ASPECT of the Paulson/Frank plan: Its focus on having the government buy up the toxic subprime securities. This is close to a pure bailout for Wall Street, and there is NO REASON that any of us sees that this has to be the core of the rescue plan. I think you could get near-unanimity from economists, from across the political spectrum, in FAVOR of a simple, easy-to-do alternative that would be both more economically sound and more politically palatable: The Federal government should do, with respect to the banking sector as a whole, what Warren Buffett did last week in his investment in Goldman Sachs.

Buffett did not become the richest man in the world by making bad investments. The money he provided to Goldman was emphatically NOT a bailout. It was a prudent investment - he thinks he will make his money back, and much more. The taxpayer should follow his lead and take a similar stake in the financial industry.

This is the essence of the concrete plans that conservative, moderate, and liberal economists have been proposing (cf. Zingales and deLong). I think the reason these ideas have not made more headway on Capitol Hill is simply that the proposals are written in terms that are too technical for members to realize that they are all basically saying the same thing: The right way to recapitalize the financial system is by investing money in the system as a whole, so that the taxpayer benefits when the economy recovers. This is not a new idea; it is basically what Sweden did in 1992 when it faced a financial meltdown, and it worked out OK in the end for the Swedish taxpayer (at least compared with the alternatives). Just like Warren Buffett, the taxpayer might even ultimately make money on the deal.

At the risk of making eyes glaze over, let me sketch one way of doing this (which is basically similar to the more concrete and detailed proposals of others): The taxpayer could approach each financial institution that is in trouble and offer them a take-it-or-leave it deal: You need capital and we have capital. We'll either lend you the money you need (in exchange for being first in line for repayment out of any future profits, and in exchange for your cutting your dividends to zero until your capital is restored), or we'll buy preferred shares in you in an amount directly proportional to shareholder equity from your last audited financial statement (again, you must cut dividends to zero until you are healthy again). This solution is not perfect, but I am assured by people who should know that it is something that could be organized very quickly and would provide the needed capital. The plan would need to specify, in an ironclad way, that the taxpayer's stake would be sold off (at a profit) when the system regains its footing.

Carroll offers an explanation for why this plan is not getting any traction in Washington (the Republicans proposed an alternative plan, but not the Democrats!):

What is mystifying to me and many other economists is why there seems to be such resistance to the Zingales/deLong/Buffett plan by people who do not seem to be able to offer a coherent rational argument for why it would not work, and an insistence instead that the taxpayer should buy the toxic assets directly. I can think of only one potential explanation: A rigid ideological opposition on the part of Henry Paulson to taxpayer ownership of even one dime of the financial sector. If this is the right explanation, it is scarily reminiscent of the rigid ideologies that led to catastrophic errors of policy judgment during the Great Depression. A lot of conservative economists, who share Paulson's presumed predilictions in this regard, have seen the light and now feel that the Zingales/deLong/Buffett plan is the best of a bad set of options. Why doesn't Henry Paulson agree?

(I should note, in fairness, that Paulson has moved somewhat in this direction; the latest versions of his plan involve taxpayers getting some ownership stake in exchange for their purchases of the toxic assets. But if he is willing to compromise in that regard, it is all the more mysterious that there is still an insistence on buying the toxic assets).

Why Washington wants to buy the toxic assets even though this is not required to get the financial sector back in order is obvious to anyone but an economist. Economists, like other American social scientists, do not as a rule progress beyond the view of the role of the US government that we get taught in grade school: that its purpose is to serve the American public. As we have seen all too well in the last eight years, its real role is to plunder other people's wealth to transfer it to the very wealthy (see Free Lunch). And this is precisely what the Paulson plan does, on a massive scale (without solving either the problem of the undercapitalization of banks or that many houses are now worth less than the mortgages taken out to buy them).

The purpose of the Paulson plan is not to rescue the financial sector—a later plan developed by the next administration will have to do that—but to rescue the paper gains that very wealthy investors had made which have recently disappeared. (It's possible that Carroll is using snark when he says it is "mysterious" that there is "an insistence on buying the toxic assets", but I don't think he is. Also, he doesn't mention that Buffett supports Paulson's plan. Evidently, Buffett doesn't find that what's good for Buffett is good for the American people. It's also interesting that in an interview with Amy Goodman, Paul Krugman says that "temporary nationalization in a financial emergency is always the way to go, but the word "nationalization" nowhere appears in his column of the same day.)

Update [2008-9-29 20:53:13 by Alexander]:

A column by James Galbraith, together with the fate of Washington Mutual, made me realize what I suppose should have been obvious to me: that there is no urgent need for major new legislation in order to follow the alternative approach to the bailout/giveaway plan I have been advocating. That the FDIC was able to seize WaMu and then sell it off shows that it already has all the authority it needs to "rescue" banks. (WaMu's shareholders and bondholders got wiped out.) As Samuelson argues, just a few changes are required in order to prepare for a major financial crisis:

The point of the bailout is to buy assets that are illiquid but not worthless. But regular banks hold assets like that all the time. They're called "loans."

With banks, runs occur only when depositors panic, because they fear the loan book is bad. Deposit insurance takes care of that. So why not eliminate the pointless $100,000 cap on federal deposit insurance and go take inventory? If a bank is solvent, money market funds would flow in, eliminating the need to insure those separately. If it isn't, the FDIC has the bridge bank facility to take care of that.

Next, put half a trillion dollars into the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. fund -- a cosmetic gesture -- and as much money into that agency and the FBI as is needed for examiners, auditors and investigators. Keep $200 billion or more in reserve, so the Treasury can recapitalize banks by buying preferred shares if necessary -- as Warren Buffett did this week with Goldman Sachs. Review the situation in three months, when Congress comes back. Hedge funds should be left on their own. You can't save everyone, and those investors aren't poor.

With this solution, the systemic financial threat should go away.

Apparently, the reason why Samuelson calls increasing the FDIC fund a "cosmetic gesture" is explained by the following:

The FDIC does not and will not run out of money. Like all federal trust funds, the FDIC's insurance 'trust fund' does not exist. The reserves shown in the fund simply evidence the amount of money contributed by the banking industry into the fund. Like all federal trust funds, the cash raised by FDIC insurance premiums goes into the Treasury's general fund. When the agency needs cash, then the Treasury makes the money available. When the positive balance shown in the FDIC insurance fund is depleted, the FDIC simply runs a negative balance with the Treasury, a loan that the banking industry will repay over time. Indeed, the FDIC is preparing to raise the industry's insurance premiums to generate even more cash to deal with the rising levels of bank failures. Also, in the remote chance that the FDIC ever reached the statutory borrowing limit from Treasury, the Congress will simply raise the limit.

These measures should serve to calm any feelings of impending financial collapse. Dealing with our remaining economic problems could then be safely left to the next president.

Update [2008-10-1 13:2:44 by Alexander]: As Kos notes, The Hill reports that George Soros has proposed this kind of rescue plan:

Soros has outlined his plan in an opinion editorial in the Financial Times and circulated a concept paper among decision-makers.

Specifically, the liberal philanthropist has proposed that government funds should be used to recapitalize the American banking system by purchasing equity in banks and investment firms.

Democratic Rep. Jim Moran (Va.) scheduled a meeting Tuesday afternoon with Robert Johnson, a former manager of the Soros Fund Management, to discuss the proposal.

Moran compared the proposal to Warren Buffet’s $5 billion investment in the investment firm Goldman Sachs Group in return for preferred stock and warrants to buy common stock at a discount.

Soros has also contacted Sen. Barack Obama’s (D-Ill.) presidential campaign to share his views on the financial crisis and the best way to solve it.

Soros writes:

Since Tarp [Paulson's Troubled Asset Relief Programme] was ill-conceived, it is liable to arouse a negative response from America’s creditors. They would see it as an attempt to inflate away the debt. The dollar is liable to come under renewed pressure and the government will have to pay more for its debt, especially at the long end. These adverse consequences could be mitigated by using taxpayers’ funds more effectively.

Instead of just purchasing troubled assets the bulk of the funds ought to be used to recapitalise the banking system. Funds injected at the equity level are more high-powered than funds used at the balance sheet level by a minimal factor of twelve - effectively giving the government $8,400bn to re-ignite the flow of credit. In practice, the effect would be even greater because the injection of government funds would also attract private capital. The result would be more economic recovery and the chance for taxpayers to profit from the recovery.

Let us see if the Democrats will listen to reason. If they're true to form, they'll admit that Soros's plan is better, but will not try to enact it instead of Paulson's plan because "We don't have the votes."



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Krugman is a bit more specific in his latest blog post:

Nouriel Roubini has a characteristically scathing takedown of the Paulson plan, and here's the thing: language aside, his economic analysis is similar to mine. The fundamental problem in the financial system is too little capital; bizarrely, the Treasury chose not to address that problem directly, by (say) purchasing preferred shares in financial institutions. Instead, the plan is premised on the belief that toxic mortgage-related waste is underpriced, and that the Treasury can recapitalize banks on the cheap by fixing the markets' error.

The Dodd-Frank changes make the plan less awful, mainly by creating an equity stake. Essentially, this makes it possible for the plan to do the right thing through the back door: use toxic-waste purchases to acquire equity, and hence inject capital after all. Also, the oversight means that Treasury can be prevented from making the plan a pure gift to financial evildoers. But it's still not a good plan.

Carroll finds it "mystifying"; Krugman finds it "bizarre". Mentioning the obvious explanation is out of the question if you write for a corporate news outlet or have an academic job.

by Alexander on Sat Sep 27th, 2008 at 10:01:25 PM EST
now that a deal's been reached. Other people besides me must have been complaining that he hasn't been blunt enough. (Here is one example.)

The good, the bad, and the ugly

Brad DeLong says that Swedish-style temporary nationalization is the right answer to a financial crisis; he's right. I haven't been clear enough about this, it seems, but it's where my basic diagnosis leads: the problem is insufficient capital, you want to inject capital, but you don't want it to be a windfall to existing stockholders -- hence, take over and recapitalize the failing firms. By the way, that's what we did with AIG 10 years days ago.

So that's the good solution. The Paulson plan, which is some combination of sheer giveaway and mystic faith that a slap in the market's face will make everything OK, is a bad solution (and probably no solution at all.)

by Alexander on Sun Sep 28th, 2008 at 03:57:46 PM EST
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I don't fully trust Krugman.  He's too much of an establishment guy and he is too easily led around by these centrist Dems.

I trust the economists that have been predicting this crisis all along.

by SFHawkguy on Sun Sep 28th, 2008 at 04:28:24 PM EST
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Yes: it's funny how he says "Brad DeLong says", when it's virtually the whole economics profession. He's sticking to the corporate media's narrative mode according to which there are just different points of view which can't be rationally chosen.
by Alexander on Sun Sep 28th, 2008 at 05:00:27 PM EST
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A STET looks interesting too.

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; now we know that it is bad economics;" - Franklin Delano Roosevelt
by Salunga on Sun Sep 28th, 2008 at 12:45:38 AM EST
Sounds analogous to Bernie Sanders' proposal:
Any plan to clean up the mess on Wall Street must:

1. Ensure that middle income and working families are not the ones who are paying for this bailout by
   * Imposing a five-year, 10 percent surtax on income over $1 million a year for couples and over $500,000 for single taxpayers. That would raise more than $300 billion in revenue over five years;

But none of this will happen until Democrats end their dependence on political contributions from the financial sector. And as Obama's recent behavior demonstrates, that's not going to happen anytime soon.

by Alexander on Sun Sep 28th, 2008 at 01:00:01 AM EST
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   The thing is this STET tax would be pretty transparent but generate possibly 150 billion a year. They are talking about a quarter of one percent tax on the monetary amount of every stock transaction. A minute percentage that would raise real revenue. Plus it comes directly from the pockets of the pigs whose speculation brings about instability. This was used by FDR and we had one until 1966 according to the link I provided. We need revenue no matter what and this is a pretty painless way to get it.

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; now we know that it is bad economics;" - Franklin Delano Roosevelt
by Salunga on Sun Sep 28th, 2008 at 01:13:32 AM EST
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It's not happening guys.  The bailout deal is all but done, and the results are nothing short of a  catastrophe.
Among the last sticking points was an unexpected and bitter fight over how to pay for any losses that taxpayers may experience after distressed debt has been purchased and resold.

Democrats had pushed for a fee on securities transactions, essentially a tax on financial firms, saying it was fitting that they contribute to the cost.

In the end, lawmakers and the administration opted to leave the decision to the next president, who must present a proposal to Congress to pay for any losses.

Officials said they had also agreed to include a proposal by House Republicans that gives the Treasury secretary an additional option of issuing government insurance for troubled financial instruments as a way of reducing the amount of taxpayer money spent up front on the rescue effort.

The Treasury would be required to create the insurance program, officials said, but not necessarily to use it. Mr. Paulson had expressed little interest in that plan, and initial cost projections suggested it would be enormously expensive. But final details were not immediately available.

Paulson may hate it.  He'll be convinced to issue the insurance anyway.

And we'll be on the hook for trillions and trillions in coming corporate losses when the derivatives market blows up.

I can just see President Obama on television now pleading with Congress for an even larger bailout down the road.  And the only way out is going to be hyper-inflation and the death of the dollar.

It's now only a question of how much time we have left before the disaster comes.

More at Zandar vs. The Stupid.

by Zandar1 on Sun Sep 28th, 2008 at 09:39:52 AM EST
The guys at that blog are still yelling:

Memo to Ben Bernanke & Hank Paulson: Confidence is a Function of Capital, Not Liquidity

It is a scandal that the Democrats, and Obama in particular, are ignoring these financial specialists. This bailout is just as idiotic as the invasion of Iraq, yet Obama evidently supports it. Does anybody still doubt that if he were in the Senate when the Iraq war resolution came up, he would have voted for it?

by Alexander on Sun Sep 28th, 2008 at 02:09:08 PM EST
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it's little wonder why buffet and the RATs are lining up behind this plan. the entire operation has been orchestrated by wall street, most notably goldman sachs.

all it takes is one look at the "team" that put it together:

Hank Paulson, Treasury secretary, has called on Edward Forst, a former senior Goldman Sachs executive who recently joined Harvard University, to be a key adviser on the $700bn financial rescue plan, it emerged on Friday.

Mr Forst joined Mr Paulson's team less than a week ago and has been working on the structuring and implementation of the "troubled assets relief programme" if it is approved by Congress, a Treasury official said.

Mr Paulson has often turned to former Goldman executives for advice since 2006, when he moved to Washington to be Treasury secretary, leaving his post as chairman and chief executive of the New York-based bank.

In another recent example, Mr Paulson in August tapped Ken Wilson, a veteran investment banker at Goldman, to help the US navigate the financial crisis.

financial times reg req'd

the political system is owned, lock, stock and barrel, by wall street, and they're not shy about who knows it anymore.

expecting anything else to happen, was a waste of time. this will do what they want; stabilize the markets for the next 5 weeks...giving all the players ample opportunity to move their assets, at "recovered' prices, with minimal risk...then all bets are off.

the revolution will not be televised...

by dada on Sun Sep 28th, 2008 at 02:43:05 PM EST
expecting anything else to happen, was a waste of time. this will do what they want;

I agree. I just thought that this blog (and EuroTrib, where I cross-posted this) should record that established American economists and financial experts where yelling as the plan was being negotiated that it is the wrong way to go and will not work.

This new post actually quotes two people at the American Enterprise Institute (!) as writing in an as yet unpublished paper that the model of the 1930's Reconstruction Finance Corporation should be followed, which was essentially the same as the Swedish approach of the 1990s. That makes me think that that's the approach an Obama administration will follow, after this last grab runs its course.

Also, since this is a political blog, Obama's being for this plan should stop us from having any illusions about him.

by Alexander on Sun Sep 28th, 2008 at 02:59:16 PM EST
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This country is doomed.  There is no opposition party in this country.

Obama is a sucker vote for complete suckers.  

Things will get much worse.  Obama will make things even worse.  Even if he wins he will set up the reemergence of the right.

Every time I think it can't get worse it does.  

Obama and the Dems just handed the bank robbers the last bit of dough in the bank.  There is now nothing left to save social security, etc.  

Whenever Bush points a gun at Democrats heads and they do his bidding bad things happen.  Even simpletons understand this dynamic.  That's why about the only Americans that trust Bush are Democrats.  They're suckers and losers.

Obama is a Bush lackey.  He's Bush's bitch.  What a complete coward and traitor.  How quickly he runs to Bush's arms and the corporatists arms to rape the American taxpayer.   Obama always falls for Bush's ploys.  

Obama is not the answer.  He's the problem.  

by SFHawkguy on Sun Sep 28th, 2008 at 02:55:50 PM EST

One need not be an Economist to disagree with Caroll.

The Swedish/Nordic alternative was discussed and dismissed because of the differing situations. What we have here are derivatives (not mortgages or other loans in their original form) held in a Shadow Banking System; multiple owners of the same instruments held in the dark off the balance sheet said to be guaranteed by insurance against default.

Derivatives trading brought down Bear, Lehman, AIG, WaMu, with Wachovia, B&S and Fortis teetering, looking for a rescue.

First. The magnitude of the problem: It is being presented, sold to us as sub-prime mortgages (MBS) but these (sub-prime) represent a fraction of the real situation...and no one dare tell the truth.

These so called 'Mortgage Backed Securities' are a mix of good mortgages and non-performing loans (mortgages) bundled into bonds and sold multiple times, - in some cases up to 100 times - without the new lien holders being named on the original mortgages. Just ask Deutsche Bank which was thrown out of court in Ohio foreclosure cases. They could not prove they owned the original mortgages or a piece of it...or had a lien on the property; thus confirming why the Swedish model is a no go.

Second. Any person with a horse's sense will agree that these instruments - known as Derivatives - were extended to include: credit card balances, auto loans, student loans, Home Equity loans, commercial paper (Corporate loans), lines of credit, bank guarantees on and on to anything not yet made, were insured against default; totaling as at June 2008, 1,140 trillion, that's over a quadrillion (BIS sourced) of listed and OTC derivatives that will never be made whole..

Third. It has become a crisis of confidence. Confidence underpins money; once it's lost, confidence is difficult to be restored.  The Feds can print a quadrillion and it won't restore confidence. Banks don't know their own true exposure or the exposure of their competitors to these toxic derivatives. Paulson and Bernanke are in the dark, so too are academics on which bank or financial entity is exposed to what derivative pool. It's a tangled mess.

One thing is certain, Bank of International Settlements received this quadrillion data on listed and OTC Derivatives trading.

Paulson needs to remove some of these multiple owned toxic assets off the banks' balance sheet, to enable restoration of confidence and keep the money flowing again

In a multiple alarm fire the firefighter hardly has time to put on his protective gear.

How much water do we need is not yet known. BUT

Any one who believes $700 billion will buy us out of this hole is dreaming. The Feds printed, loaned this week over a trillion dollars to keep the banks afloat. $188 billion a day, on average. On Wednesday it spiked to $262 billion.

And the FDIC will need to be recapitalized by $150 billion. The FDIC has one penny for each $100 on deposit.

The worse is ahead.

In the period 2010 - 2012, CDOs and CDSs (Derivatives) will reset...the hedge funds and super rich investors will have their hands out.

So what we have in this bailout, rescue plan is a $700 billion down payment on a $11 trillion bill of sale - a conservative 1% of 1,140 trillion derivatives pile.  fWMDs.  

This $700 bln down payment is good for three to six months.

Imho, we need to shutter derivatives trading and also put the hedge funds out of business.

It will end badly.

We'll change our name to Weiamerica, as we default on our derivatives debt through hyper-inflation.

Btw, Sub-prime mortgages (blacks and minorities) are being blamed for this credit crisis. The scapegoat.


Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Sun Sep 28th, 2008 at 04:19:25 PM EST
You're right.  This is much bigger than "subprime".

And the Dems are handing the criminal bankers (the ones that caused the problems and already profited off the problems) the last bag of dollars before the whole thing comes crashing down.

Bush and Paulson spent the last year denying there was a problem.  They would have called your above analysis crazy.  Now in one week they reverse course and demand that the Dems do exactly what they say.

And the Dems comply completely.  Just as they always do.  Whether starting wars, torturing people, or whatever crime Bush wants to commit--the Dems are there to conspire with him and screw America over for their corporate paymasters.

by SFHawkguy on Sun Sep 28th, 2008 at 04:27:17 PM EST
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Thanks.

I've watched the Dems cave on important Bills - FISA for one.

However in this credit crisis - that has its origins here and exported worldwide - Dems are over a barrel called panic; bank runs, and runs on money market funds that are uninsured. They're in the majority, by however slim the margin, and will be seen responsible for the financial collapse if they refuse Bernanke and Paulson. Paulson is a member of the Bush Admin. And damn it, it's Bush's plan and he has an obligation to deliver some GOP votes in support of the bill.

Bernanke is Fed, illusion or not, like him or not, he is supposedly independent. Bernanke is one of the world's expert on cause and effect of the last Great Depression. Bernanke understands the problem very well.

And let's not overlook the pressure of Central Banks worldwide, (SWF) Sovereign Wealth Funds that are holding some of these instruments including Fannie and Freddie paper. These investors who we'll need are very angry.
Dems can't allow a collapse because going forward there will be no buyers of US Treasuries for daily funding.  World confidence in the financial markets has been badly impaired and the U.S. owns that kettle.

At some point the complete facts will be told; who were the bad players. Some will be arrested and jailed.

What we need now is to support the Fed and Treasury in this effort to create liquidity ASAP, that'll buy us a little time.
There's no time for debating which approach will work. The house is on fire. Bernanke and Paulson need  $700 billion now whether in one lump or in tranches.

If truth be told, Bernanke can't continue to extend his balance sheet at the rate he's been going. Yes, under this quadrillion pile Central Banks can go broke.

Let's arrest the bleeding, give a transfusion (that'll restoring some measure of confidence) so we can get the patient into surgery and suture up the wound. Btw, this patient will be spending a long time in rehab.

 

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Sun Sep 28th, 2008 at 05:11:37 PM EST
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No one will be arrested & there will be no investigation. We have to put the past behind us & concentrate on the future.

Whack! Don't worry about that whack on your head, it's in the past now. (I love that scene with Rafiki & Simba.)

Land of the watched, because of the cowed.

by hens teeth on Mon Sep 29th, 2008 at 10:48:28 AM EST
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The Swedish/Nordic alternative was discussed and dismissed because of the differing situations. What we have here are derivatives [...]

You're writing as if no economist has ever heard of derivatives. Can you provide any links to where this "was discussed and dismissed"?

The "Swedish  model" has already been employed—on WaMu, which owned a lot of derivatives, as I understand. I'm missing something.

by Alexander on Sun Sep 28th, 2008 at 04:46:25 PM EST
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"You're writing as if no economist has ever heard of derivatives. Can you provide any links to where this "was discussed and dismissed"?

Discussed on NPR two days ago and previously on BBC Radio/WorldUpdate which airs at 5:00 AM ET. No link. I've been following the impending implosion of financial system since 2002.

Ah the Swedish model: This is not a simple question of buying up non-performing mortgages (loans) from the originator banks wherein there are only two parties to the instrument - the mortgagee and the mortgagor.
We have a different situation, in terms of magnitude, trillions of dollars; the bundling and reselling of these mortgage instruments, now known as derivatives, in different flavors and frought with conflicting legal claims or no validity to claim.  And, they were insured against default by under capitalized insurers.

Derivatives, ginned up by computer models, are very complex and yes, CEOs and academics alike do not understand them.  My close relative, a C.A. blah blah, works for one of the top three Auditing firms worldwide. They have been warning since 1994 on derivatives, that many CEOs did not understand what they were signing off on. But don't take my relative's word, Buffett warned derivatives were fWMDS:

Buffett's "time bomb" goes off on Wall Street

[.]

But credit default swaps -- complex derivatives originally designed to protect banks from deadbeat borrowers -- are adding to the turmoil.

"I'm sure their predictive models were right as far as the risk of the things they were insuring against. But what they didn't factor in was the risk that the sellers of this protection wouldn't pay ... That's what we're seeing now."

Brown is hardly alone in her criticism of the derivatives. Five years ago, billionaire investor Warren Buffett called them a "time bomb" and "financial weapons of mass destruction" and directed the insurance arm of his Berkshire Hathaway Inc (BRKa.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) to exit the business.

[.]When the credit default market began back in the mid-1990s, the transactions were simpler, more transparent affairs. Not all the sellers were insurance companies like AIG -- most were not. But the protection buyer usually knew the protection seller.

As it grew -- according to the industry's trade group, the credit default market grew to $46 trillion by the first half of 2007 from $631 billion in 2000 -- all that changed.

An over-the-counter market grew up and some of the most active players became asset managers, including hedge fund managers, who bought and sold the policies like any other investment.

And in those deals, they sold protection as often as they bought it -- although they rarely set aside the reserves they would need if the obligation ever had to be paid.

[.]

Another problem: As hedge funds and others bought and sold these protection policies, they did not always get prior written consent from the people they were supposed to be insuring. Patrick Parkinson, the deputy director of the Fed's research and statistic arm, calls the practice "sloppy."

As a result, some protection buyers had trouble figuring out who was standing behind the insurance they bought. And it put investors into webs of relationships they did not understand.

OTC derivatives at notional value becomes full face value in a bankruptcy.

The "Swedish  model" has already been employed--on WaMu, which owned a lot of derivatives, as I understand. I'm missing something.

Is that so? WaMu was sold at a fire sale. No Swedish model here.

JPMorganChase bought only the deposits...did not assume WaMu's liabilities including claims by equity or any senior or subordinated debt holders..

As lawmakers struggle to nail down the details of a historic bailout proposal, troubled thrift Washington Mutual (WM: 0.1604 -90.51%) was closed by regulators on Thursday night, the victim of a huge bet on mortgages gone south. The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation seized the failed bank and sold the company's banking assets to JP Morgan Chase & Co. (JPM: 48.24 +11.00%) for just $1.9 billion; the sales price is stunning, given WaMu's combined assets of $307 billion and total deposits of $188 billion.

[.]

JP Morgan did not assume WaMu's liabilities, including claims by equity or any senior or subordinated debt holders, but it did agree to absorb WaMu's troublesome loan portfolio, likely the reason for the fire-sale price;

[.]

Further, on Friday WaMu Holdings and a subsidiary, WMI filed for bankruptcy in U.S. bankruptcy court in Delaware.

all that talk about "illiquid assets" is obfuscation for derivatives.

Our great, great, grand children will be still at it. Who has a claim to what.

Eventually we'll default.

In the interim, more dominoes will fall. It's a busy Sunday evenoing:  Next up -Wachovia, Benelux's Fortis, and UK's B&B

Oops last two gone.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Sun Sep 28th, 2008 at 08:10:20 PM EST
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WaMu was sold at a fire sale. No Swedish model here.

The "Swedish model" was employed in the US in the 1930 with the Reconstruction Finance Corporation.

Below are two very simplified numerical illustrations to highlight the failings of the current plan in Washington by way of a comparison between (1) the RTC/Paulson model and (2) the 1930s RFC model, which is conveniently illustrated by the purchase of WaMu by JPMorgan Chase (NYSE:JPM).  Of note, in the WaMu resolution, equity and bond holders of the parent holding company were effectively wiped out - a significant landmark for bank investors that probably kills the private market for bank equity for the foreseeable future. Significantly, the advances from the FHLBs and the covered bonds issued by WaMu's bank subsidiary were conveyed through the receivership and assumed by JPM. (Bailout: It's about Capital, not Lixquidity)

The FDIC seized WaMu and then handed its assets over to JPM, which recapitalized it by taking it over; WaMu's shareholders and bondholders were wiped out. That's the "Swedish model": things just happened very quickly, because the FDIC had a buyer lined up.

Your point that the Swedish/RFC model can't be applied to institutions holding derivatives still doesn't make any sense to me. Things are just significantly more complicated, that's all. The fundamental problem as I understand it is that of solvency. If enough capital is injected into a bank holding toxic derivatives, the bank will become solvent, even if the toxic derivatives have been significantly devalued.

Which is not to say that many if not most derivatives should not be banned.

by Alexander on Sun Sep 28th, 2008 at 10:15:13 PM EST
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Repeat. The Swedish model cannot apply to these 'illiquid assets" also known as derivatives.

the Purchase of WaMu was not assisted by the FDIC.meaning the full taking over of the bank. The FDIC's balance sheet, currently at less than $40 bln, cannot absorb WaMu's bad assets. And, I could elaborate more but I won't as I've family members, CFA, caught up with clients' accounts in this even though we knew months ago of WaMu's impending demise.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Mon Sep 29th, 2008 at 10:14:44 AM EST
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