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Palin's Speech

by BooMan
Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 12:17:09 PM EST

If you're looking for a comprehensive fact-check of Sarah Palin's web of lies acceptance speech, go here. Setting aside the delivery of the speech, which was quite good, it doesn't strike me as the best idea to make a first impression as a nearly pathological liar. But your mileage may vary.

Later on today I'll have access to focus group results that Greenberg Quinlan Rosner gathered from undecided female voters in Nevada. They found no net gain in the group whatsover in terms of which ticket they are leaning towards. She improved her favorability by 10%. Unmarried women felt that she did not address any of their concerns and married women expressed concern that she couldn't simultaneously perform the job of vice-president and mother (via email).

This candidate provoked a fascinating discussion of gender roles and politics and the challenges this nominee faces. Many women, especially married women, openly questioned her ability to both serve and raise a family, particularly a family involved such a young, special-needs baby. These women acknowledged the obvious double standard ("we would not ask that if she were a man"), but the question lingered. Some even noted, "'let's face it, we (women) do the nurturing."

I have noted the same theme with women I've talked to, which I guess opens things up for an interesting debate. As a political matter, I am opposed to raising this argument precisely because it is a double standard. Yet, the double standard is deeply ingrained in our culture and can't be discounted as a factor in people's decision making.

On the whole, women in this focus group demonstrated some movement toward McCain/Palin and some movement toward Obama/Biden, but it balanced out exactly. It was a wash among undecided female voters in Nevada.

That's just a sample and not a very large one. I'd like to know something else, though. For me, her speech left a bad aftertaste. As long as she was up on the screen delivering those sharp remarks with a smile on her face, I felt like she was quite effective. But once her image faded a little bit after I got some sleep, the message sticks out more than the form. And the message was kind of nasty and substanceless. And I'm feeling less impressed with the speech this morning than I was last night. I wonder if other people feel the same way.



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Last night had to be her high water mark, and if it was a wash with undecided women, that's a positive in my book.  
by RollaMO on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 12:23:30 PM EST

NYT/IHT nails it:

With speech behind her, Palin now faces the real test

[.]Governor Sarah Palin could not have asked for a better setting for her solo debut on the national stage: an audience enthralled with her selection as Senator John McCain's running mate even before she walked on stage to a roar of approval, after three days in seclusion with some of the country's most skilled political counselors to write, hone and practice her speech.

[.]

But her speech at the Republican National Convention, if delivered with confidence and ecstatically embraced in the hall, may prove to have been the easy part.

From here, Palin moves into a national campaign where she will have to appeal to audiences that are not necessarily primed to adore her.

She will have to navigate far less controlled campaign settings that will test not only her political skills but also her knowledge of foreign and domestic policy.

And she must convince the country she is prepared to be vice president at a time when the definition of that job has been elevated to the status of governing partner - something voters might have been reminded of Wednesday by images of Vice President Dick Cheney embarking on a mission to Georgia.

"The people who are in the hall - they've already been sold, they are the choir," said John Danforth, a former Republican senator from Missouri. "Now the question for her and for McCain and for everybody who is inside the hall is how to clarify their message to the American people."

[.]

The question is whether someone who is so little known and has what even Republicans describe as a scant résumé has the authority to make those attacks credible - unlike, say, her counterpart on the Democratic side, Senator Joseph Biden Jr. of Delaware, a veteran of foreign and domestic policy who attacked McCain last week. It is also unclear if the sharp and often mocking tone of her attacks - combined with her general avoidance of such key issues as the economy - might turn off swing voters across the country.

"It's more difficult with someone of her background to go on the attack than it would be for Joe Biden," said Warren Rudman, a former Republican senator from New Hampshire. "Before she attacks someone, she has to get out there and define herself."

Thing is before Palin continues her attacks against elites she had best take a closer look at Cindy McCain's outfit that Vanity Fair tagged at $300,000.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 12:40:05 PM EST
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McCain is down in the national tracking polls.  To break-out he needs a demographic to decisively move to him.  A wash doesn't cut it.


(One) must still have Chaos in oneself to be able to give birth to a dancing star. Nietzsche
by ATinNM on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 12:50:08 PM EST
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FWIW, I thought she came off as a fruitcake.
Christina was losing her shit, and she NEVER gets angry.  She's personally offended by the Palin candidacy.

Like I said last night, I think most of it came off as a parody. The lecture about "community organizer" versus "PTA" is ripe for SNL to tear to shreds.  I'm seeing a lot of cruel sketches.

John Mccain Called his wife WHAT??

by brendan on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 12:28:55 PM EST
the female occupant of my household was driven to near physical illness by the speech.  But we're libruhls and I don't think it's a surprise that we didn't care for the message.
by BooMan on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 12:35:17 PM EST
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Christina isn't the only one with that response.  ;)
by CabinGirl on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 12:36:09 PM EST
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personally my favorite was Romney, just for sheer insanity and incoherence.

John Mccain Called his wife WHAT??
by brendan on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 12:50:07 PM EST
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...adding holy shit, Simon comes out swinging:

On behalf of the media, I would like to say we are sorry.

On behalf of the elite media, I would like to say we are very sorry.

We have asked questions this week that we should never have asked.

We have asked pathetic questions like: Who is Sarah Palin? What is her record? Where does she stand on the issues? And is she is qualified to be a heartbeat away from the presidency?

We have asked mean questions like: How well did John McCain know her before he selected her? How well did his campaign vet her? And was she his first choice?

Bad questions. Bad media. Bad.

It is not our job to ask questions. Or it shouldn't be. To hear from the pols at the Republican National Convention this week, our job is to endorse and support the decisions of the pols.

...and from there he stomps all over Sarah Palin's speech.

John Mccain Called his wife WHAT??

by brendan on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 12:54:35 PM EST
After the snippets of her Ohio speech I couldn't listen  to her speech last night.  Can't tolerate her voice.

From what I've read so far she pretty much did what I expected, avoided the issues and served up a nice hot steaming plate of hate, all with a smile.

by SusanD on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 12:57:39 PM EST
fortunately, l didn't have to endure the visuals...no tv...but l listened to the live stream from Pacifica Radio...patched through the stereo...so l had good sound quality at least.

l thought she came off shrill and condescending, and definitely out of her league. she sounded like a small town, bigoted, politico with a side of nasty. it was, imo, cliquish hackery of the highest order.

l think the RATs are going to regret this on nov 5, if not sooner.

she's an empty skirt.

the revolution will not be televised...Peace

by dada on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 01:06:01 PM EST
Forget it, she sounds too much like my ex-wife.  Who needs another smug harpy in their lives?
by John Brown (ruptured_duck@notmail.com) on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 01:08:15 PM EST
I confess I could only watch it in bits and pieces, and so was beyond being swept up in any narrative arc. My impression was that it was a professionally crafted speech and performance that managed to arouse the otherwise somnolent audience -- no mean feat, given the sleepy resentment that characterized this whole convention.

Today, though, even that small accomplishment seemed overwhelmed by a bad taste like the kind you get after indulging in deep-fried Twinkies or especially exploitative porn. It was a taste of pettiness, mean-spiritedness, crude emotional manipulation. There was no hint of the expansiveness that a great speech inspires. Instead Palin delivered the kind of excitement that comes from being part of an angry, self-pitying mob, and my bet is that anyone outside the base who fell for it felt kind of dirty this morning. In the end, all Palin accomplished was to show what a small and embarrassing artifact the Republican Party has become.

Bush is "the first President to admit to an impeachable offense." --Former Nixon counsel John Dean

by DaveW on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 01:43:55 PM EST
My response to her speech is exactly the same as yours.

The Republicans have become caricatures of themselves and are ideologically exhausted. All I can say is that if they try to steal the election again, Obama will put up more of a fight than Gore and Kerry did.

"Israel is a good friend of Israel." -- Barack Obama. Is that a Freudian slip indicating that Obama suspects that Israel is not a good friend of the US?

by Alexander on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 02:12:04 PM EST
   My mother is a Republican, and she reacted strongly against both the Giuliani and Palin speeches.

  I had been primed to expect a polished speech from a "nice person".    I agree that Palin did not come across as an amateur.  But, I also think that she was condescending, snide and nasty in tone.   What's not to like?

I would really like to see a poll of women's reactions to this speech.  I think the pundits are wrong and this speech is going to backfire big time with moderates and independents, especially women.

by tarzanne on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 02:18:14 PM EST
Thinks that Obama is poised to raise $10M online today because of Palin's speech. I don't know that the haul will be that big, I know most of my social media friends kicked in.  Such as shame at the near total silence in the liberal blogosphere in urging people to donate to Obama.

~~~THIS SPACE FOR RENT~~~
by fabooj (fabooj [at} mail [dot} com) on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 03:12:45 PM EST
AWESOME.  I was thinking that same thing about a massive fundraising day today as I was donating another $25 out of sheer anger over Roody and Palin's lies.

"We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further." - Richard Dawkins
by halo0 (philiott at gmail dotcom) on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 04:07:34 PM EST
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