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by BooMan
Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 02:34:35 PM EST

How's your Fantasy Football team doing? Anything interesting happen on this morning's political shows?

Open Thread | 23 comments (23 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

Why waste time with Fantasy Football (4.00 / 2)

when there's Fantasy Politics to be had?

Who'll win!!!???

Obama or McCain?

What injurious facts will appear about their second stringers?

Are the coaches cheating?

Can you believe the injury reports?

And those COLUMNISTS!!!

Those ex-player pundits!!!

Who owns these goddamned teams in the first place?

Oh boy oh boy oh boy!!! If I get it right, I win the office fucking lottery!!!

Meanwhile the wheels are coming off of the country and the Ratpubs are industriously chop-chop-chopping down Obama's weak legs...his almost baseless "base"...at the rate of about a quarter point a day.

Chop chop chop.
Chop chop chop chop chop chop.

And you want to talk about Fantasy Football?

Fantasy Leftiness Blogball, it looks like to me.

Whadda buncha maroons.

And then you take umbrage at my exhortations to wake the fuck up.

Deep.

In a shallow kinda way.

I do keep trying, though.

Fantasy Football...in fact, NFL mania in general and the whole fan thing...is simply a creation of the hypno-media.

It is just another circus meant to simultaneously distract us from the awful state of our bread system and keep us buying as much as possible so that inflated concept of "America" does not deflate down into a tired, wrinkled old parody of a paper tiger.

Get a life.

Fantasy sucks.

AG

Goodness had nothing to do with it, dearie.-Mae West

by Arthur Gilroy (arthurgilroy<at>earthlink.net) on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 03:09:54 PM EST

Re: Why waste time with Fantasy Football (4.00 / 2)

why waste time?

So I won't kill someone.

by BooMan on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 05:11:21 PM EST
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Heh. (4.00 / 2)

by CabinGirl on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 05:27:24 PM EST
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Re: Heh. (none / 0)

Oh, I LOVE that! Mind if I snag it?

BTW, you and I have a pretty close game going in FF today. I thought I was toast after Brady went out injured in the 1st quarter, but Reggie Bush came through big for me. And am I just a big dork for thinking it's cute that the Bunnies are playing the Rabbits?

by conglomerNation on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 05:47:11 PM EST
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Re: Heh. (none / 0)

I snagged it from someone on Ravelry, so I'm happy to share. :)

We thought you were toast after Brady went down too, but now I'm thinking you're going to be victorious this week. Unless our kicker somehow exceeds our wildest dreams...

I love the whole animal theme that most of the team names went with this year.

by CabinGirl on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 05:57:23 PM EST
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Re: Why waste time with Fantasy Football (none / 0)

And that is precisely their intent.

Bread and circuses rather than active opposition.

Yup.

Sublimation as a socio-political weapon.

As you must, Booman.

As you must.

As must we all.

AG

Goodness had nothing to do with it, dearie.-Mae West

by Arthur Gilroy (arthurgilroy<at>earthlink.net) on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 06:01:27 PM EST
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Re: Why waste time with Fantasy Football (none / 0)

My bet is on the Financial WMDs - the financial tsunami that's in progress.

Few grasp the significance of the nationalization of Freddie and Fannie.

It's not an indication of stability...It's a sign they've lost control. The F&F takeover signals there's more to come. The smaller banks who held F& F's shares now need to be helped.

Just the tip of a massive financial collapse - coming right after November 4th.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 04:15:02 PM EST
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Obama a Republican Lite? (4.00 / 2)

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PROMISES, PROMISES, PROMISES AND JUNK STATUS

Obama: Recession could delay rescinding Bush's tax cuts

WASHINGTON - Democrat Barack Obama says he would delay rescinding President Bush's tax cuts on wealthy Americans if he becomes the next president and the economy is in a recession, suggesting such an increase would further hurt the economy.

"I think we've got to take a look and see where the economy is. I mean, the economy is weak right now," Obama said on "This Week" on ABC. "The news with Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, I think, along with the unemployment numbers, indicates that we're fragile."

Standard & Poor's on Sunday cut the ratings on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac preferred stock to junk status

"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."

by Oui on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 03:54:09 PM EST

Re: Obama a Republican Lite? (none / 1)

He needs to get back to a windfall profits tax on the oil companies. Use it for infrastructure-job creation. The last stimulus went straight from the people to the corporations the proof is GDP goes up 3.3% but personal income declines. Whats wrong with this picture.
Obama is a pragmatist but he is giving the left little to cheer about with statements like the one Oui. That the OReilly interview (Why even go there?) and his AIPAC speech are the low points of this campaign.

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; now we know that it is bad economics;" - Franklin Delano Roosevelt

by Salunga on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 05:25:45 PM EST
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No -- he doesn't lie enough (none / 1)

On the other hand, I think we can turn McCain campaign's deliberate, systematic lying into the leading issue of the campaign, then use this as a tool in other areas. If we just whine about their lies one at a time we'll be buried alive.

Here's a diary on a lie-pushback strategy and how this could smash the foundation of the Republican campaign: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/7/154528/0935/712/590175. If you think it matters, please recommend.

Words and ideas I offer here may be used freely and without attribution.

by technopolitical on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 05:31:39 PM EST
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Re: No -- he doesn't lie enough (none / 1)

Unfortunately: "The period of time to recommend this diary has expired."

But once again Rachel Maddow cuts through the BS. McCain is lying from the stump. Obama or Biden needs to attack on this issue.

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; now we know that it is bad economics;" - Franklin Delano Roosevelt

by Salunga on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 05:47:57 PM EST
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Re: Open Thread (4.00 / 3)

I saw part of Biden's interview on Meet the Press this morning, and he had an excellent response to the inane question "when do you think life begins". To summarize, he said that as a Catholic he believes according to the teachings of his Church, and that he does not have any right at all to insist that anyone else believe as he does. It is very much a matter of personal beliefs, he said. I liked that.

Can's stand him or Obama or much of anyone else on military and foreign policy, but that response made me feel a bit better about him.

I am stunned that Sarah Palin had an approval rating of 58% in last week's CBS poll. I KNOW that 58% of Americans do not support that appalling woman's anti-choice position, or her agenda to teach religious doctrine as equal to scientifically proven fact. So what gives?! What explains this?! And McCain and Obama are in a dead heat at 41%. I have a real sense of doom here, and if McCain wins I will go into a funk that will make my reaction to Bush's 2004 win look like a party.

by Hurria (Muslawia@gmail.com) on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 05:25:14 PM EST

Re: Open Thread (none / 0)

Here's what Joe said:

I voted against telling everyone else in the country that they have to agree with my religiously based view.... It's based on a matter of faith...

<claps> Very nice.

by robertdsc on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 05:51:17 PM EST
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Re: Open Thread (none / 1)

Susan Hu, the former BT frontpager, has gone absolutely off the deep end over at Johnson's outfit. I left the following comment yesterday to one of her lunatic tirades.

Hi Susan,
You might remember me: I used to know you back in the day at BT and ET. I know you don't like to read comments, so you may not be seeing this, but still.
It's peculiar to say the least -- stunning in fact -- to see you abandoning everything you used to stand for. This Sarah Palin, for example, who you support as VP for a cancer-ridden septuagenarian, is an enemy of just about every single political standpoint you espoused as a liberal democrat, a secularist, an environmentaist, and even an animal rights activist. To find you endorsing McCain, an ill-tempered, hotheaded and increasingly demented warmonger who might pose a serious danger to world peace in the cooling international climate, as a "real man," now that is just bizarre.
And why are you doing this? For spite? Because your preferred candidate, who holds closely similar positions to Obama's and now campaigns for him, happened not to prevail under the existing, if imperfect, rules? If so Susan, how can you miss the fantastic irony of this sneering fulmination of yours:

You nearly have a nervous breakdown if things aren't going your way. Instead of being a real man like John McCain, who exhorts himself and us to "stand up and fight," you whine, pout and feel sorry for yourself.
Speaking for myself, I don't expect much of any US leader these days. I hold no special brief for Obama, who is clearly just another slick politician in the mold of Bill Clinton.
Of course he is a narcissist; what serious presidential candidate in that country of yours is not? But if you sorry lot of bitter, vindictive dead-enders succeed in foisting upon an undeserving world four more years of weapons-grade stupidity, dishonesty, and general contempt for reason, peace, justice, the global environment, international law, multilateral cooperation, and human rights, then my hate for America will truly know no bounds. And as for you personally, I'll be sorry I ever knew you at all.

The world's northernmost desert wind.

by Sirocco (sirocco2005 - AT - gmail.com) on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 02:49:03 PM EST

Not Fair (none / 1)

.
to stay away for so long!

Good to see you here!!

"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."

by Oui on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 03:57:09 PM EST
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Re: Open Thread (none / 0)

When Susan Hu abandons all her principles and beliefs - let's cut to the chase - her little whiteness is showing; she can't bring herself to support a half white guy even when his policies are identical to her preferred candidate who lost.

Some enjoy being losers.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 04:03:59 PM EST
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Re: Open Thread (none / 0)

I gave up on Larry's blog a log time ago - Can't even bear to look at it anymore. It used to be one of the most interesting blogs on the net with a group of very astute and interesting regular commenters. No more. I will not dirty my computer screen by looking at it.

And I am NOT an Obama supporter, neither was I a Hillary supported. Still don't know whom I will vote for, but I AM firmly in the Anybody But McCain group.

by Hurria (Muslawia@gmail.com) on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 05:16:37 PM EST
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Re: Open Thread (none / 0)

The Obama camp did it earlier in the campaign, but I would like to see Barack and Joe be more explicit when they mention Sarah Palin.

Every time she's mentioned, they should say that she lied to the American people in her first two speeches regarding the airplane on Ebay and the Bridge To Nowhere.

Make it stick: Sarah Palin = liar.

by robertdsc on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 04:43:27 PM EST

Re: Open Thread (none / 0)

Tom Brady injury screwed me!

Blue Tidal Wave

by Mac G on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 05:13:05 PM EST

Re: Open Thread (none / 0)

Bunch a SquirelyMokoHamsters(you know who you are) are kicking my ass. Bulger my quarterback ran into THE PHILADELPHIA EAGLES today and only got me six points. I'll take that tradeoff.
What do you think they do for fun at other blogs? Play fantasy revolutionary?

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; now we know that it is bad economics;" - Franklin Delano Roosevelt

by Salunga on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 05:14:46 PM EST

Re: Open Thread (none / 0)

Those SMHs are dangerous...

by CabinGirl on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 05:58:24 PM EST
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Re: Open Thread (none / 0)

I found that out today. But vegetables are better for you!

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; now we know that it is bad economics;" - Franklin Delano Roosevelt

by Salunga on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 06:27:52 PM EST
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Re: Open Thread (none / 0)

curse computer-generated draft picks!

Latino Político | "We are condemned to kill time, thus we die bit by bit." - Octavio Paz

by Man Eegee (man.eegee at gmail.com) on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 07:44:22 PM EST

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