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Burris and Franken

by BooMan
Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 06:27:44 PM EST

Now that the Senate has agreed to seat Roland Burris, all that remains is for Al Franken to prevail in court over the idiotic Norm Coleman. At that point, the Democrats will have 59 seats (57, plus Bernie Sanders and Joe Lieberman).

What I don't understand is why Norm Coleman is being a brat about Franken's victory. He's not going to win in court and he's just causing mischief. Is he delusional or just petulant? Or is there some key reason to delay Franken?

Burris and Franken | 12 comments (12 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Burris and Franken (none / 0)

58 seats, don't count on Joe.

by The Voice In The Wilderness on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 06:35:39 PM EST

Re: Burris and Franken (none / 0)

TRUE. Don't count on a few Dems, actually.

"If you look for the social economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 07:22:50 PM EST
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Re: Burris and Franken (none / 0)

Here's what Nate Silver had to say about Coleman's mitives last week:

Let's be frank: Norm Coleman doesn't have much of a future in electoral politics. Defeated Presidential candidates sometimes have nine lives, but defeated Senatorial candidates rarely do, and in his career running for statewide office, Coleman has lost to a professional wrestler, beaten a dead guy, and then tied a comedian. He doesn't have much to lose by fighting this to its bitter conclusion. But it's hard to envision how he'll come up with enough ballots to overtake Franken.

Plus Norm Coleman is a world class Asshole.

by RandyH on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 06:43:49 PM EST

Re: Burris and Franken (none / 0)

You sure got that right. Coleman is a disgrace to Minnesota, the United States, the human race. GOOD RIDDANCE!

Suppose you scrub your ethical skin until it shines, but inside there is no music, then what? Kabir

by Dongi 2 on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 08:56:43 PM EST
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He's a turncoat traitor (none / 0)

He was a Democrat when he ran for Mayor, then switched. Turncoats make my blood boil. He is also a corrupt weasel, and he will be in jail for accepting bribes soon.

by dataguy on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 10:10:52 PM EST
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Re: He's a turncoat traitor (none / 0)

I suspect the possibility of jail might be why he's fighting this so hard. It's a lot easier to collect money for your legal defense fund if you call it a "re-election warchest".

by nonynony on Tue Jan 13th, 2009 at 12:02:56 PM EST
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Once Again (none / 0)

The Underground Railroad

by Oscar In Louisville on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 06:51:33 PM EST

The Repukeliscum hate Franken (none / 0)

He is the most terrible of opponents - he likes putting his thumb in their eye. He revels in it. He writes books where he calls them idiots.

So, they don't like Al.

But for me, he's the Champ.

by dataguy on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 10:12:11 PM EST

Is he delusional or just petulant? (none / 0)

Are the two mutually exclusive??

On a related topic - 2010 could easily be the year we have 60+ seats in the Senate without having to consider Lieberman.

Won't THAT be a great day?!?

by sidewinder on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 10:42:20 PM EST

Re: Burris and Franken (none / 0)

He's playing this out for the right wing think tanks and speaking opportunities that are going to be paying for his life from here on out. It's about future income from non elected work. Being a martyr who fought to the last pays a lot better than being a reasonable soul.

Kelly McCullough - author of WebMage, Cybermancy, CodeSpell, and MythOS - ACE (Penguin)

by KMc (http://www.kellymccullough.com/mail.html) on Tue Jan 13th, 2009 at 11:17:39 AM EST

It May Be About the Math (none / 0)

With both Burris and Franken unseated, i.e. with only 98 seated Senators, Democrats only need 59 votes, not 60, for cloture against a filibuster.

But with Burris seated, but Franken unseated, i.e. with 99 seated Senators, Democrats again need 60 votes for cloture, but are down one potential cloture vote.

Dunno if Republican money-men would be talked into funding Coleman's legal challenge simply to keep one Democratic cloture vote out of the Senate (especially when a Senator Franken could be used, however hamhandedly, for GOP fundraising). But it's as good a theory as any.

Though, never bet against Norm Coleman's own egomania, I guess.

Check out the Guru's blog at http://www.senateguru.com/

by Senate Guru (senate2008guru AT yahoo.com) on Tue Jan 13th, 2009 at 02:47:38 PM EST

Might it be what he wrote in his book? (none / 0)

At the end of one of Franken's books he sort of has a fantasy about running for Senate. In the few days between seating the new Senate and swearing in the new president, he suggests he would anty up a proposal to impeach Bush just to set the record straight.

Now, when I read it I never thought it would happen...Franken winning that is. Now that it seems he has one, who is to say he wouldn't actually make an attempt? Not that Coleman cares...I think he is just trying to save his job.

by TimQ on Wed Jan 14th, 2009 at 12:15:08 AM EST

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