http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28651944/

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iraq/un-hq-baghdad-bombing.htm

I think Israel has crossed the line by shelling the United Nations Headquarters in Gaza.

    "... has found 600 passages of explicit violence in the Hebrew Bible [a.k.a. Old Testament], 1000 verses where God's own violent actions of punishment are described, 100 passages where God expressly commands others to kill people, and several stories where God irrationally kills or tries to kill for no apparent reason. Violence ... is easily the most often mentioned activity in the Hebrew Bible." 6

Of the many passages in the Hebrew Scriptures that describe major loss of life, most were conventional wars. Four of these events would probably qualify as genocides under most current definitions of the term. They were:

    * The worldwide flood at the time of Noah as described in Genesis, chapters 6 to 8. From the description, it almost completely wiped out the human race, with the exception of Noah, his wife and sons and their wives.
    * The Passover incident described in Exodus chapters 11 and 12, in which all of the firstborn of all Egypt were slaughtered.
    * The conquest of Canaan, in which God ordered the Hebrews to completely exterminate the Canaanite people -- from the elderly to newborns and fetuses. This is described throughout the book of Joshua.
    * The near extermination of the entire tribe of Benjamin by the remaining 11 tribes, triggered by the serial rape and murder of a priest's concubine by a few Benjamites. See Judges, chapter 20.

The first three of the above genocides have at least three factors in common:

    * The Bible explains that God was primarily responsible.
    * Many liberal Christians, liberal Jews, historians and biblical archaeologists believe that all three are religious myths -- stories of great spiritual significance about events that never actually happened.
    * Jewish and Christian conservatives generally believe in that the authors of the Bible were inspired by God and thus their writings are inerrant. They believe that the genocides happened exactly as described in the Bible.

In addition, the book of Revelation, interpreted literally, predicts that a massive genocide will occur at some time in our future, in association with the war of Armageddon and the end of the world as we know it (TEOTWAWKI). If it were to happen in the near future, on the order of two billion people will die.

Declaring the bottom is the only way back up..

preview is my friend

the revolution will not be televised...

I hang out with the types of people who attend pro-Palestinian/anti-Israel-action protests, marches, and rallies both in the United States and in other countries. I have never heard those types of things from anyone at any of those events ever. The worst things I have heard have come from a handful of American anti-Semites who attach themselves to Arab causes in the mistaken belief that they will be welcomed by fellow Jew-haters. They are generally shunned or at best politely ignored. And I have never heard even them saying the kinds of things I have heard from Israel supporters such as the ones in that video.

"but i'd be willing to bet that if i went to a pro-palestinian rally, i could get footage of people who would say such things. especially if attending that rally asked a hardship that would weed out those less fervent about the cause -- such as enduring inclement weather or traveling a distance."

It's a bet. Let me know where you live, and I will let you know the time and place of the next rally in your area. Be sure to take your video camera, and make sure the audio works. And what would you like to bet? After all, we have to make it real.

"not only is this a video of a crowd of self-selected extremists, it's a edited montage of the most absurd statements."

I agree it is a crowd of self-selected extremists. I cannot comment on the editing criteria because I have no basis for that.

"i presume you've seen other videos max has made of other types of extremists, usually of the conservative and christian persuasion. max looks for and does a good job of assembling the most outrageous statements."

No, I haven't. I am not entertained or enlightened by such things, therefore I do not waste time on them.

"you could probably make generalizations about the attendees of events like these, but you couldn't draw any conclusions about people who did not attend, which was the point of my original comment."

I have not drawn any conclusions about the people who did not attend, and if you had read my other comments you would know what my general point of view was.

You, unfortunately, drew utterly unfounded conclusions based on this video about the people who attend pro-Palestinian rallies. As far as I can tell you have never attended one. I have attended literally hundreds of pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel events in my life, I do hang out very much with the kinds of people who attend them, and I challenge you to try to find footage of people at a Palestinian rally making the kinds of murderous, genocidal statements we can hear in that video.