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Circuit City is Dead

by Steven D
Fri Jan 16th, 2009 at 04:51:40 PM EST

Regardless of what you think of this company, the complete liquidation of the second largest electronics retailer in America is not a good omen for our nation's economic prospects in the coming year:

Circuit City, once a bellwether American retailer, is going out of business for good, stripping the nation of its second-largest consumer electronics chain.

The company, which filed for bankruptcy protection in November, said Friday that it would liquidate its stores and other assets.

Just last week, Circuit City — which has some 30,000 employees and 567 stores — was in talks with two potential buyers, but it was unable to reach a timely agreement with its creditors and lenders.

The ripple effects from this will be larger than you think. Empty commercial store fronts will reduce business for stores that rely on magnets like Circuit City to attract business. Thirty thousand employees will be dumped out on the street, adding to the demand on state governments for unemployment benefits, worker's compensation claims, etc. Going out of business sales at these stores will depress prices even more adding to deflationary pressures on former competitors struggling remain in business. Psychologically, there will be an impact on the markets. Every investor will be asking the question "Who's next?" Expect to see the share prices of other major retailers drop precipitously next week. This is only the beginning:

The demise of Circuit City, while not surprising given its declining sales, is part of a radical shift taking place in American retailing. Weak chains — unable to weather the freeze-up in consumer spending, and choked by tight credit markets — are shuttering their doors.

Last year, a raft of retailers including Boscov’s, Sharper Image, Mervyns, Linens ’n Things, Whitehall Jewelers and Steve & Barry’s filed for bankruptcy protection. This week alone, Goody’s Family Clothing and Gottschalks Inc. also filed. Many more retailers are expected to follow suit as they run out of working capital or are unable to finance their debt. But emerging from bankruptcy is harder than ever because of changes in the bankruptcy code and vise-like credit markets.

Obama and Congress better move fast to amend the Bankruptcy Code and crank up that Super Duper Stimulus Package or you're going to see a lot more companies closing their doors permanently, and a lot more former employees looking for work in an environment where jobs are disappearing faster than scantily clad assistants at a Magicians' Convention. Of course, whatever they do may be too little and too late to have any real effect this year. I regret using such a hackneyed phrase, but in this instance it fits perfectly the situation we find ourselves in: The worst is yet to come.

Why was Bush smiling last night at the end of his speech? Because he knows he's getting out of Dodge just before the full force of the economic cattle stampede his policies unleashed hits town, leaving the rest of us to get trampled in the panics and disasters to come.



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Better use those gift cards quick before they have as much value as Circuit City's shares: zip.

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by Steven D on Fri Jan 16th, 2009 at 04:56:54 PM EST
My sister wanted a Border's gift card for Christmas, and I told her the same thing: Hurry up and spend it. (And if she spends enough extra, maybe she'll save the chain!)
by Joyful Alternative on Sat Jan 17th, 2009 at 08:03:23 PM EST
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Circuit City, once still a bellwether American retailer... there's going to be more  following in it's wake.

l received a CC gift card for christmas and used it today. didn't really need anything, but bagged a 4G memory card for the dslr for $14...had to wait in line to get in, wait in line to check out. lot's of people with the wherewithal to pick at the carcass it seems.

employee's attitudes were not good...big surprise, eh.

the revolution will not be televised...

by dada on Sat Jan 17th, 2009 at 08:26:41 PM EST
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Where I work, in Downtown LA, a Macy's store is closing and Ann Taylor is moving out as well. There are more empty storefronts than filled ones in this little shopping area. Really sad times.

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by Real History Lisa (lpeaseRemoveThis@gte.net) on Fri Jan 16th, 2009 at 05:03:15 PM EST
There are going to be a lot of empty malls before the year is out.

A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. Franklin D. Roosevelt
by Steven D on Fri Jan 16th, 2009 at 05:07:50 PM EST
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The commercial real estate market is crashing before our eyes.  America's economy runs on consumer spending, and that's all but dried up.  2009 is going to honestly test the boundary between recession and depression.

I'm beginning to think even Obama's stimulus package will work.  There's just too much damage to the economy.  There's no more slack in the system for employers, no more fat to cut.

The next step is liquidation and mass layoffs, as we've seen.  Many more are coming.


More at Zandar vs. The Stupid.

by Zandar1 on Fri Jan 16th, 2009 at 05:32:30 PM EST
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If you read The Automatic Earth, you might get the idea that all of these bailouts are a complete and total waste of money.  Throwing good money after bad because there are tens of trillions of bad debt out there and the only rational way of dealing with it is to simply let the companies fold.
by ericy on Fri Jan 16th, 2009 at 08:55:13 PM EST
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I don't hear of any proposed pro-consumer bankruptcy changes coming from the Democratic side--other than the cram-down proposal.  Which I'm highly suspicious of because the Democratic leaders first met with Citigroup (!) before deciding what changes to propose.  I've seen this script play out one too many times with the Democrats--a company that is getting billions in government handouts with little to no oversight and a lot to hide from its past actions is imploding because of its own incompetence and reckless bets and the Democrats are asking IT if it's o.k. to change some of the bankruptcy laws?  

I don't trust the Democrats to tinker with the bankruptcy code in general.  Not until they start doing good for average Americans and stop acting like the bankers' slutty mistresses.

by SFHawkguy on Fri Jan 16th, 2009 at 05:30:55 PM EST
I for one am glad. I boycotted them after they treated their employees so shabbily and I'm not the only one.
by The Voice In The Wilderness on Fri Jan 16th, 2009 at 07:34:39 PM EST
I've never shopped at one. There isn't one anywhere near where I live, which makes it easier. But I have resolved never to buy from them ever since the DivX debacle -- a truly anti-consumer piece of technology if ever there was one.

I for one welcome our new Twitter overlords. @Omir55
by Omir the Storyteller (omir.the.storyteller -CAT- gmail -DOG- com) on Sat Jan 17th, 2009 at 01:57:39 AM EST
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This piece of news (2007) forever stopped me from buying from them:
March 28 (Bloomberg) -- Circuit City Stores Inc., the second-largest U.S. electronics retailer after Best Buy Co., fired 3,400 of its highest-paid hourly workers and will hire replacements willing to work for less.

The company said its eliminating jobs that paid ``well above'' market rates. Those who were fired can apply for the lower pay, company spokesman Bill Cimino said today. He declined to give the wages of the fired workers or the new hires.

by ask on Sat Jan 17th, 2009 at 06:59:17 AM EST
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Say - maybe there is something to that Karma thing, after all. Put another way, "you get what you pay for", at least in this case.

"I never trust people who don't laugh." Maya Angelou, March 5, 2009
by Indianadem on Sat Jan 17th, 2009 at 10:01:05 AM EST
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Right! That's what I meant about treating their employees shabbily. After they did this, I think thousands maybe even millions decided not to do business with them.
by The Voice In The Wilderness on Sat Jan 17th, 2009 at 08:27:15 PM EST
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No, not dead.  It will live on in Canada, where it is apparently doing fairly well.

Circuit City also operates about 765 retail stores and dealer outlets in Canada. The company said its Canadian operations, which employ 3,000 workers, will continue to operate.


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by boran2 (blogistan@yahoo.com) on Fri Jan 16th, 2009 at 09:49:45 PM EST
According to the numbers provided by the company, Circuit City employs just under four workers per retail store/dealer outlet in Canada.

Now, either somebody slipped up with the numbers ... or you have individuals driving around in Circuit City vans that count as retail stores or dealer outlets ... or it is seriously hard to find help in a Canadian Circuit City.

You have to remember that that four-per-store includes corporate management/administration, which must be fairly substantial given the number of stores/outlets.

By my casual reckoning, there must be groups of stores that have one employee apiece: the same one, who must get awfully tired.

Something's got to be wrong. If not, I can't agree that they're "doing well".

by no3reed on Fri Jan 16th, 2009 at 10:39:15 PM EST
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The Source by Circuit City is the official name -- these stores used to be RadioShack, but they were legally ordered to change it when InterTan purchased them, something like that. I don't know all the details, but these stores are very tiny -- usually in a strip mall between Hallmark and Running Room for example, or w/in a mall. The ones close to me in Ottawa only have 2 or 3 employees working at a time that I've seen when in the stores. Do you have RadioShack stores in the US?

parvum opus
by olivia on Fri Jan 16th, 2009 at 10:52:12 PM EST
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Found this on flickr: Toronto ON store. And here's another: Westminster BC.

parvum opus
by olivia on Fri Jan 16th, 2009 at 10:57:59 PM EST
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Thanks for your answer. Yes, we have RadioShack stores all over the US. (The chain originated in Texas, I believe.) I wasn't aware of RadioShack-like Circuit Cities in Canada (we don't have those in the US, as far as I know), but knowing about them doesn't fully resolve my puzzles.

As you say, you see 2 or 3 employees at a time in these stores. What are the store hours? Do the same 2-3 work the entire shift? Are they open seven days a week? If those 2-3 employees work open-to-close, every day without a day off, that (I guess) answers my question, but raises a new one: How do they do it?

I've worked in 7-Elevens (small convenience stores) and many other types of store. I don't see how you could maintain anything busier than a John Kerry Memorabilia Outlet in Crawford, TX with four employees, let alone three or two -- and remember, over 700 stores leads to, whether or not it necessitates, a bunch of district managers, supervisors, etc. All of which come out of the workers-per-store numbers.

Again, I appreciate your response and it helps a little bit, but I think if you think a little about what all is involved here, you still have to wonder about these numbers.

by no3reed on Fri Jan 16th, 2009 at 11:10:36 PM EST
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If I remember my Tandy Corporation history right, Radio Shack per se originated in Massachusetts many many years ago. It was a fairly small operation until Charles Tandy, who made a mint running and operating Tandy Leather hobbyist shops (which were headquartered in Texas), was casting around for another hobby-type operation to invest in and Radio Shack caught his eye. I always thought that pairing up people who made wallets and belts with do-it-yourself radio tinkerers and hams was an odd combination, but there you are.

Back when I worked for Radio Shack we usually had a manager and two employees. The employees got minimum wage as a draw against commissions; the managers got a regular salary (a pretty small one) plus a bonus based on profitability. I did know about one store, though, which had only the manager working there. How he did it, I don't remember -- he must have been young and foolish, or at least not married.

I for one welcome our new Twitter overlords. @Omir55

by Omir the Storyteller (omir.the.storyteller -CAT- gmail -DOG- com) on Sat Jan 17th, 2009 at 01:55:52 AM EST
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Thanks for the info. Yes, I was thinking of Tandy, obviously; didn't know RS ever had an independent existence.

Just curious: was your store open in the evening? On weekends (including Sundays)? People, especially the manager, would've had to work insane hours with no days off. You usually want a manager or assistant manager there any time the store is open, and then, of course, there's the receipts, the bank deposit, etc., to be done while the store is closed.

Well, I guess it's not worth dwelling upon.

by no3reed on Sat Jan 17th, 2009 at 12:16:33 PM EST
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We were in a mall, so we operated during mall hours -- until 9 on weekdays, 6 on Saturday and 5 on Sunday. We didn't have an assistant manager per se; the manager was on call during the evenings and usually there was a part-timer who only worked evenings there with the full-time employee.

Mostly I enjoyed working there, but I did learn one very important thing about myself -- I suck at retail sales. It was OK when everything was going smoothly, but I didn't handle confrontations well. Still don't.

I for one welcome our new Twitter overlords. @Omir55

by Omir the Storyteller (omir.the.storyteller -CAT- gmail -DOG- com) on Sun Jan 18th, 2009 at 10:22:16 AM EST
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I just bought a DVD recorder from them a couple weeks ago. Shouldn't have gotten that warranty thingie. I guess I can kiss those fifty bucks goodbye.
by Bob In Pacifica on Fri Jan 16th, 2009 at 09:59:21 PM EST
I sold electronics while in college.  Never buy those warranty thingies.  Though, I made a lot of commission off of them.

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by Teacher Toni (tacoralatyahoodotcom) on Sat Jan 17th, 2009 at 12:06:01 PM EST
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All these bailouts and stimulii better work or Obama will be remembered as the man who bankrupted America.
by Brad on Fri Jan 16th, 2009 at 11:00:32 PM EST
I know this isn't going to help the economy any but I never once had a pleasant experience at CC - it was just a big giant store with generic electronics and no expert help or service.

If you want cheap generic electronics, go to Wal-Mart.  If you want some expertise, go to Best Buy (assuming you want the standard walk-in retail experience).  CC wasn't helped by the recession but they surely weren't running a very tight ship to begin with.

Pax

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by soj on Sat Jan 17th, 2009 at 10:15:34 AM EST
I buy all my electronics (except TV) on line unless there is a special sale going on.
by The Voice In The Wilderness on Sat Jan 17th, 2009 at 08:29:42 PM EST
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Well yeah, that's why I kind of said the "walk-in" retail experience.  Honestly back when I was in the USA I would go to Best Buy to handle and inspect anything I was interested in (or ask questions) then go online and buy it more cheaply from somewhere else.

Not really "fair" to BB but there you go.

Pax


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by soj on Sun Jan 18th, 2009 at 09:46:58 PM EST
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