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Deep Thought

by BooMan
Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 06:11:15 PM EST

Sean McCormack, the spokesperson for the State Department, says that Condi Rice and the US Government support the language, goals, and objectives of the latest UN Security Council Resolution that calls for an immediate cease fire in the Gaza Strip. He says that Condi Rice is responsible for negotiating the language. Yet, he is completely incapable of explaining why the United States abstained from voting for the resolution. The press mocked him relentlessly for the inconsistency. If only the world would limit itself to mocking us, rather than taking reprisals. If only.

The world holds us responsible for the ongoing slaughter of Palestinian civilians, and no one is convinced that this about stopping rocket fire. It is about decimating the government of the Gaza Strip and trying to undo the results of an ill-advised election that provided results the US and Israel found impossible to accept. Killing people for that reason is not acceptable, especially when the elections only occurred at the insistence of the president of the United States.



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The election results was also in large part due to the short and long term actions of the US and Israel. Hell the election itself.

'Everyone is ready for Democracy', right?  

Problem is that statement is just not true.  

The truth is:

It is WE who are not ready. Not ready for the Democracy of the other.


Declaring the bottom is the only way back up..

by anarchronarchist (mincers (-at-) hotmail (-dot-) com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 06:51:27 PM EST
A Rumsfeldian view:

"You go with the government that's elected, not the one you want"?


Recommended by Hideo Kojima

by robertdsc on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 06:55:01 PM EST
If you'll notice, the people they keep sending out to make the case for this slaughter keep saying that  Hamas staged a coup.

Do you see the massive anti-war protest in Norway?

What a shame that many people in this country can't even bring themselves the say that Israel is wrong and their actions are detrimental to us.

by Cee on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 10:39:53 PM EST
How long does Dennis 'The Walrus' Kukukachoo-nic have to be right when it counts before he gets any Love at all?

Declaring the bottom is the only way back up..
by anarchronarchist (mincers (-at-) hotmail (-dot-) com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 07:07:19 PM EST
Actually, if the US would continue just avoiding blocking the UN Security Council, a lot more progress could be made in the Middle East.  Like sometimes the best we can hope for from our congressional reps is that they vote "present."

A Progressive Christian perspective on I/P at Beyond Bethlehem
by RustyPipes (rustdotypipesatyahoodotcom) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 07:24:21 PM EST
I do not agree at all that the election was ill-advised. What was ill-advised was 1) trying to accomplish a Fatah coup, 2) punishing 1.5 million human beings for the crime of exercising their right to choose their own leaders.
by Hurria (Muslawia@gmail.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 07:25:30 PM EST

Israel is the shadow government that rules the world. At least so they think, but only for a little while longer.

The U.S. will never vote for a U.N. resolution that includes the world Israel in it.

Israel's Ashkenazi Jews ignore world opinion at our peril. Imo, they're setting up conditions that will restore another backlash against all Jews worldwide.

I'm observing:

When you have protesters in Florida, in the late great U.S.A  (a few days ago) shouting at Jews "go back into the ovens"

When you have the Vatican's Ambassador to the U.N. (reported on BBC radio World News Service early yesterday morning, 2:00 AM ET) saying: "Israel's actions in the Gaza amounts to a Concentration Camp..the once oppressed are now the oppressors"

When a close co-worker of seventeen years, knowing fully well my Jewish ancestry, told me last night over dinner "I can't hold back any longer.. seeing what is happening in the Gaza... I really don't like Jews" Speechless, I took a mental note there was no delineation between Sephardi and Ashkenazi Jews..all Jews are the same.

surely a repeat of the darkest days for Jews can't be far off and Ashkenazi Jews will be the first ones to ask "Why did this happen to us, again."  

As always, it wasn't because we Jews were scapegoated. Actions bring consequences. CONSEQUENCES are a time honored thing.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 08:18:24 PM EST
I lost my first response to this! I'm sorry that I don't how to format this to make it more easily readable.

Israel's Ashkenazi Jews ignore world opinion at our peril. Imo, they're setting up conditions that will restore another backlash against all Jews worldwide.

Josh Reubner tried to warn them.

To My Former Dean and Other "Court Jews"

http://www.counterpunch.org/ruebner03142003.html

I'm observing:

When you have protesters in Florida, in the late great U.S.A  (a few days ago) shouting at Jews "go back into the ovens"

Florida has a one of the highest number of KKK members so I wouldn't worry about a few knuckleheads.
I do worry that some agent provocateurs are trying to create a problem so they can use the newly trained American soldiers on us.

http://www.wacholland.org/node/88

When a close co-worker of seventeen years, knowing fully well my Jewish ancestry, told me last night over dinner "I can't hold back any longer.. seeing what is happening in the Gaza... I really don't like Jews"

What did you say?!? Perhaps you can have that person read The Thirteen Tribe by Arthur Koestler to get our line off the hook. Ashkenazi Jews are thought to be Khazars who converted.

There are Sephardi Jews on my mothers side of the family and for that reason I never viewed Jews as Caucasian. Some Ashkenazi Jews that I met in later years were offended.

As always, it wasn't because we Jews were scapegoated. Actions bring consequences. CONSEQUENCES are a time honored thing.

I do believe that Jews have always been scapegoated because of the actions of a few.
We have to make sure to point out who those few are so the rage is directed right to them.

by Cee on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 11:35:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I had to come back to add something. Perhaps it wasn't even any klan nut yelling vile things.

Doubts cloud Mannichl Nazi stabbing claims

http://www.thelocal.de/national/20090109-16653.html

15, 2008 20:50 | Updated Dec 16, 2008 9:38
Germany urged to take 'strongest legal action against neo-Nazis'
By ETGAR LEFKOVITS

The Los Angeles-based Simon Wiesenthal Center on Monday urged the German police and judicial authorities to take "the strongest possible measures" against the neo-Nazis who attempted to murder a German police chief over the weekend.
The organization's chief Nazi-hunter noted that Alois Mannichi, police chief of the Bavarian city of Passau, was attacked for his refusal to tolerate neo-Nazi activity and stressed the importance

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull&cid=1228728209858

by Cee on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 12:18:24 AM EST
[ Parent ]

 

my family is Portuguese Sephardi.  I can tell ya, all Ashkenazi Jews I encountered (even at the synagogue) have quite a racial ATTITUDE -- they're the only real Jews. They've rewritten Jewish history.

"History of the Jews" by Johnson should be mandatory reading for all Zionists.

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 01:55:56 PM EST
[ Parent ]
What's your national origin, idredit?

I just hate that more and more Zionists are being turned into "the Jews". I just replied to a comment on Juan Cole's blog that referred to what "the Jews" have been doing to "The Muslims" for years. I am appalled that some people are trying to turn this into a Jews vs Muslims thing (it is bad enough when it is portrayed as "Jews vs Arabs"). For one thing, it falsely inculpates each and every individual Jew as well as the Jewish people collectively, for another by characterizing the victims as "the Muslims" it denies recognition to Israel's millions of Christian and other non-Muslim victims.

I have been aware for a very long time, of course, of the divide between Ashkenazi and Sephardi/Mizrahi Jews, and the racism still shown by Ashkenazi Jews toward the Sephardim/Mizrahim in Israel, though it was my impression that it has eased considerably over the decades. The treatment of the Arab Jews, many of whom were brought to Israel on false pretenses, and often induced to emigrate by very cruel means, was shameful to say the least. Many of the Jews brought in from Arab countries were among the elite in their native lands, and yet they were treated little better than the Palestinians were.

But to be accurate, idredit, it is not only Israel's Ashkenazi Israeli Jews who are guilty of atrocities, and war crimes.  There are plenty of Sephardim/Muzrahim in Israel who enthusiastically take part at all levels from the government on down. Likewise, there are many Ashkenazi Jews in Israel and elsewhere who do not accept what Israel does in their name, some of whom have devoted their lives to opposing Israel in various ways, and some of whom do not accept Israel's right to exist as an ethnocratic Jewish state. So, I do not see culpability for Israel's actions as falling on "the Jews" at all, or solely on Israel's Ashkenazi Jews. Nor does it fall only on Jews or only on Israelis, but on everyone who supports Israel, acts as an apologist for Israel, or ignores Israel's horrific conduct.

by Hurria (Muslawia@gmail.com) on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 03:19:07 PM EST
[ Parent ]
BBC World Service, about 4 A.M Central European Time, reported that rumors were circulating in the U.S. that Rice was planning to vote yes, but that Olmert called Bush and Bush then told Rice to forget it. Later in the morning the item had vanished.
by Quentin on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 12:33:46 PM EST


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