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Our Purity Trolls vs. Their Purity Trolls

by BooMan
Thu Oct 22nd, 2009 at 01:52:51 PM EST

As recklessly conservative as the Washington GOP is, they do seem to want to rebuild a moderate wing. NRSC chairman, John Cornyn, has recruited moderates to run for office in Illinois, Delaware, Connecticut, Florida, California, and, perhaps, in New Hampshire. But the base of the party is rebelling. It's actually a House special election in New York's Upstate twenty-third district that is causing the most division at the moment. Bush speechwriter, David Frum, tries to explain (although he doesn't seem to understand New York election law):

By all rights, the special election in New York's 23rd Congressional District should be a Republican cakewalk. Stretching across the hunting and fishing towns along the Great Lakes and Canadian border, the district contains Fort Drum, base of the 10th Mountain division, and re-elected its Republican congressman in the disaster years of 2006 and 2008 by margins of 60-plus percent.

Yet polls show the Republican candidate in serious trouble. State Republican Party leaders prevented an open primary race and instead engineered the nomination of one of their own, moderate, pro-choice Assemblywoman Deirdre Scozzafava.

Angry conservatives in the 23rd rebelled, rallying to the third-party candidacy of local accountant Doug Hoffman. Hoffman and Scozzafava are splitting the Republican vote between them, allowing Democrat Bill Owen to emerge as the front-runner.

It's my understanding that New York avoids paying for a primary in special elections by empowering the county party chairpeople to select the candidates. The New York GOP leaders didn't select Scozzafava to avoid an open primary. There are no primaries in New York in these circumstances. But, regardless, the party leaders did pick a candidate who is pro-choice, friendly with labor, and that has a decent environmental record. Her positions are sufficiently moderate that Markos Moulitsas is rooting for her to win over the Blue Dog democrat in the race. Perhaps he is just making mischief but, tongue-in-cheek or not, the Republicans seem to have taken the bait. When Newt Gingrich, of all people, endorsed Scozzafava, he came under fierce criticism from the right. Now everyone from Dick Armey to Michele Bachmann are lining up to support the Conservative Party candidate in the race. The question is why?

I mean, this is not a Senate seat. It's one House seat out of four hundred and thirty-five. The equivalent on the Democratic side would be if the blogosphere and liberal publications, liberal lawmakers, and MSNBC had all lined up to beat Travis Childers in the Mississippi special election of 2008. After all, Childers is no progressive and he disagrees with us on most social issues. But we know that we're lucky to elect any Democrat at all in northern Mississippi. Electing Childers didn't do any harm, and it made it one seat harder for the Republicans to retake the House.

When progressives go after wayward Democrats it's usually because they are voting much more conservatively than their state or district (see Joe Lieberman). And even that is not ordinarily sufficient. A lot of Democrats fly below the radar and avoid the wrath of progressives because, while they may vote poorly, they don't go on teevee and radio and badmouth the liberal wing of the party or the leadership.

While there are strategic reasons for running primaries (see Joe Sestak) to keep wobbly Democrats in line, the idea is not to elect a Republican in their stead. But the GOP base is actually making that mistake, and making it repeatedly. The Club for Growth has knocked several lawmakers out in primaries, only to see the Democrats take over the seats. There is definitely a 'cut off your nose to spite your face' tendency to the right's strategy.

David Frum summarizes the problem. If the Republicans lose the New York special election and the New Jersey governor's race, what lessons will they take from it?

But the risk is that the party will draw a very different conclusion. From the New York experience, Republicans will be tempted to draw the lesson: Always nominate the more conservative candidate. From New Jersey: We need to drive pro-environmental fiscal moderates out of our party and into the Democratic Party where they belong!

And if the Republicans pick up an Arkansas Senate seat and a dozen blue-dog Democratic House seats in 2010, you can see this "tea party" mentality taking strong hold of the GOP in the run-up to 2012.

But a political formula that encourages Republicans to write off the suburbs, the Northeast, and California is not a formula for a national majority. It's a formula for a more coherent, better mobilized, but perpetually minority party.

I don't know about the adjective 'coherent' in this context. 'Consistent' might be more accurate. There is very little that is coherent about the tea party mentality. In fact, if the base succeeds in purifying the GOP and purging itself of moderates, the rest of the country is going to vote for the Democrats from sheer terror of the alternative. There are a lot of shitty Democrats, many of whom I'd like to see replaced. But I don't want this version of the GOP getting even a whiff of power any time soon, and I think more and more people are reaching the same conclusion.



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By all rights, the special election in New York's 23rd Congressional District should be a Republican cakewalk. Stretching across the hunting and fishing towns along the Great Lakes and Canadian border,...

Frum is apparently a bit misinformed about the makeup of the hunting and fishing towns.  Some of them are actually SUNY centers, most notably Potsdam and Oswego.

Oh, there you are, Perry. -Phineas -SLB-

by boran2 (blogistan@yahoo.com) on Thu Oct 22nd, 2009 at 02:53:59 PM EST
When Newt Gingrich is the voice of reason, your party has entered the loony bin.
by BooMan on Thu Oct 22nd, 2009 at 02:21:35 PM EST
It's only my opinion(and you'd have to ask him to get the correct answer), but I think Kos really wants Scozzafava to win(before her childish and stupid display the other day).  Owens would be a Blue Dog at best.  Not only that but a Scozzafava win would further split the GOP and its base, resulting in lots of popcorn sales.
by Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle on Thu Oct 22nd, 2009 at 02:25:45 PM EST
I haven't followed this election, but it sounds like another case of Dems nominating a DINO in order to "play safe", and putting themselves as usual in a lose-lose position -- either you vote Republican in order to get a moderate or you vote for the Dem for the party even though he's worse than the Republican. Another opportunity to get a better Dem in office, blown as usual by the Dead Skunk wing of the party.

FDR's response to progressive demands: "I agree. Now go out and make me do it."
by DaveW on Thu Oct 22nd, 2009 at 03:32:45 PM EST
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I think we're seeing the birth pains of a major realignment -- or at least the potential for one. If the current Dem regime fails to engage the corporate oligarchy and cut it down to size, angry populism will shake the establishment from both ends of the spectrum. I could see an uneasy alliance of convenience ranging from militia types on the Right to a newly energized revolutionary Left. Empty talk will not keep the populace in line forever. The story of Huey Long, among others, offers some foretaste of such an alignment's nature.

The Dems are at a true historic nexus, seems to me:  they will either usher in deep and genuine basic change or they will take us to an age of chaos and a painful, perhaps fatal, rebirth. Like FDR in his time, they are the current structure's last hope of continuity.

FDR's response to progressive demands: "I agree. Now go out and make me do it."

by DaveW on Thu Oct 22nd, 2009 at 03:47:59 PM EST
While I can't see myself making common cause with the militia freaks, I can say that I will have no reluctance abandoning the Dems for some real socialists when the time comes.
by corvus on Thu Oct 22nd, 2009 at 09:56:39 PM EST
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Heh.
I proudly gave my absentee ballot to the Socialist Left Party in the recent (September) general election in Norway.
They are in a coalition government  - Labor is the dominating partner, the third member of the coalition is the Centrist Party (agrarian). The coalition was (narrowly) re-elected from the previous term.
by ask on Thu Oct 22nd, 2009 at 10:20:42 PM EST
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Oh, right -- show us all your candy while we peer, starving, through your well-heated window, struggling mightily to fend off the extremist Right and move almost to the center. Well for your information, we used to have presidents who were very rich. Hah.

FDR's response to progressive demands: "I agree. Now go out and make me do it."
by DaveW on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 12:41:47 PM EST
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Hah, that made me laugh!
If it's any consolation; I spend most of my time in the US. Two kids to raise (the younger wants to move to Norway, the elder is busy in college here).
by ask on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 01:20:26 PM EST
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In fact, if the base succeeds in purifying the GOP and purging itself of moderates, the rest of the country is going to vote for the Democrats from sheer terror of the alternative.

That's the first thing you've said that's made me think you may have a point when you argue that having the other party go off the deep end might actually be a bad thing.

I'd like to think that right-wing extremism will drive the people to the far (by American standards) left as a counterreaction, but if the electorate really does become afraid of the GOP, that might have the undesirable side-effect of electing a whole lot of DINO blue dogs.

by corvus on Thu Oct 22nd, 2009 at 09:55:32 PM EST
It already has had that effect.  
by BooMan on Thu Oct 22nd, 2009 at 10:58:23 PM EST
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The suburban Deep South has already shown signs of shift. House seats with around 30% black population get iffy for the GOP. A successful Obama first term could pull along enough white voters to handcuff a second term with a larger numerical but more conservative majority.
by ILuvChez17 on Thu Oct 22nd, 2009 at 11:00:51 PM EST
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