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Bedwetters

by BooMan
Fri Nov 13th, 2009 at 11:45:11 AM EST

I am waiting for all the bedwetters who live nowhere near New York City to start crying about how dangerous it is to put al-Qaeda suspects on trial in New York. Also, it is so unfair to put people on trial rather than just endlessly detaining them with no due process of law. Of all the issues facing this country, the one that irritates me the most is this issue of how to deal with Guantanamo Bay. A country that can send young people to die in the deserts of Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan can ask its civilians to accept a small degree of risk to uphold the rule of law. I despise politicians who argue that we are a nation of cowards even as they cheerlead our imperial wars. If this country can't hold these trials, it is unworthy of not only respect, but fear. Is John Boehner right? Are we a nation of bedwetters? The president doesn't think so. I'm not sure. We shall see.

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Nothing more to add. I agree completely.

by Heart of the Rockies on Fri Nov 13th, 2009 at 12:12:36 PM EST

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Bedwetters:

"The Obama Administration's irresponsible decision to prosecute the mastermind of the 9/11 attacks in New York City puts the interests of liberal special interest groups before the safety and security of the American people," Boehner said in a statement. "This decision is further evidence that the White House is reverting to a dangerous pre-9/11 mentality - treating terrorism as a law enforcement issue and hoping for the best."
NRSC chair John Cornyn had a similar view.
"Reverting to a pre-9/11 approach to fighting terrorism and bringing these dangerous individuals onto U.S. soil needlessly compromises the safety of all Americans," he said in a statement. "Putting political ideology ahead of the safety of the American people just to fulfill an ill-conceived campaign promise is irresponsible."

by BooMan on Fri Nov 13th, 2009 at 01:20:06 PM EST
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That didn't take long, did it?

by Heart of the Rockies on Fri Nov 13th, 2009 at 05:51:50 PM EST
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Not a bedwetter:

Holder will face some of the administration's Capitol Hill critics when he testifies before the Senate Judiciary Committee next Tuesday. Committee chair Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) was one of the few lawmakers to release as statement praising the Holder move today.
"I have always believed that the nation's federal courts are capable of trying high profile terrorism and national security cases," he said. "They have proven time and time again to be up to the job."
"I hope these cases will move forward promptly," Leahy added. "By trying them in our federal courts, we demonstrate to the world that the most powerful nation on earth also trusts its judicial system - a system respected around the world."

by BooMan on Fri Nov 13th, 2009 at 01:21:29 PM EST
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Bush, Blair, and others elevated a gang of psycho murderers to the status of near-godly holy warriors whose unearthly powers must overwhelm a prison system that had no problems with McVeigh or the Mafia or its streetgang successors or any number of serial killers.

The ironies abound. Apparently these killers' beliefs confer magical abilities on them that is denied to believers in America's home-grown notions -- so perhaps the only way to fight them is for all of us to convert. Seems like a strange thing for the Christianists to admit.

Seems like a strange thing for the super-patriot teabeggers to admit that America is too weak or stupid to keep a few theocrat psychos behind bars, too.

So are we a nation of cowards? Hard to say. Certainly the loudest mouths among us fit the bill nicely.

FDR's response to progressive demands: "I agree. Now go out and make me do it."

by DaveW on Fri Nov 13th, 2009 at 02:07:32 PM EST

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A country that can send young people to die in the deserts of Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan can ask its civilians to accept a small degree of risk to uphold the rule of law.

I'd argue that a democratic nation that sends soldiers to war can be asked to accept the same amount of risk the soldiers accept. Otherwise, it has no right to send them. One might argue that this would only apply with a conscript army, but even with an all-volunteer army, it certainly applies to supporters of the war.

by corvus on Fri Nov 13th, 2009 at 02:10:00 PM EST

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We hardly have an all-volunteer army. The National Guard didn't volunteer to fight criminal wars oversees after signing up to help mitigate disasters in the US.

FDR's response to progressive demands: "I agree. Now go out and make me do it."

by DaveW on Fri Nov 13th, 2009 at 02:31:01 PM EST
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unless you read the fine print, that is.

by BooMan on Fri Nov 13th, 2009 at 03:08:02 PM EST
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To be fair, I don't think it was a big secret that the National Guard is a reserve combat force. Its use for disaster relief is a secondary function.

That said, I'm pretty sure no one in any part of the armed forces signed up to fight wars for Exxon-Mobil.

by corvus on Fri Nov 13th, 2009 at 05:16:43 PM EST
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