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Something to Remember

by BooMan
Fri Nov 20th, 2009 at 01:21:39 PM EST

The Republican governors got together in some god-forsaken place called Lost Pines, Texas, to discuss their collective futures and the prospects for winning more state houses in the November 2010 elections. Adam Nagourney was there, and he wrote about it. AdNags was most impressed by the lack of emphasis on social issues. These governors were focused on the health care bill, budget deficits, and kitchen-table issues facing voters in a down economy. Gods, gays, and guns didn't enter into the discussion, and neither did birth certificates.

Part of this may well be a recognition that social issues are no longer a political winner in the fight for the hearts of independents. But the larger explanation is that governors have to govern. They can't do that by obsessing over fantasies like death panels and gay indoctrination. Still, the Republican rhetoric about smaller state-based government doesn't suit governors any better than it does candidates for federal office. At least, it doesn't suit them in a down economy. Every state but Vermont has a constitutional duty to balance their budget. When revenues plummet at the same time that the number of people seeking government assistance spikes, governors are reliant on the federal government to make up some of the shortfall. Raising taxes in a down economy can be counterproductive, and there is a limit to how much they can slash programs without getting voted out of office.

The Republican governors are going to need federal assistance, but they are going to run on the evils of the federal government. When Obama sends them large checks, the won't thank him. They'll complain about the strings that are attached, and the national budget deficit. It's just politics. Times change, but the Republicans' ideology does not.

As for Congressional Republicans, their hypocrisy knows no bounds. They created this deficit and the accompanying economic catastrophe. They have always opposed Medicare. But, now, they are bemoaning the deficit and accusing the Democrats of making deep cuts to Medicare.

Seeing through the emptiness of Republican rhetoric is the key to understanding our national debate. If they came back to power, they would do the exact same thing they did under Reagan and Bush. They would explode our deficits and loot the treasury. The Democrats aren't perfect, but when they waste money, they waste it on things like health care and education. Something to remember.



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What Obama should do - or more precisely the Congress, as I don't think this should come from TARP or stimulus money, and therefore will have to be specifically allocated - is force Republican Governors to declare a financial emergency and ask for assistance. I know some people don't like to punish red states for being stupid, because there are still some virtuous people is Sodom, but we all have to live with the bad decisions of the majorities within which we are embedded, and forcing Republicans to either betray their ideology or visibly screw their constituents helps their constituents in the long run by getting rid of Republicans.

One thing Obama hinted to California is that any assistance would come with painful demands for deep spending cuts - which is exactly what the Republicans are trying to achieve by bankrupting the state. The strings attached should be revenue enhancement. The feds will give the money, but the states have to show that they can balance their budgets over time, and, as spending cuts are more contractionary than most tax increases, that's where the shortfall must be made up.

by bento on Fri Nov 20th, 2009 at 01:46:43 PM EST
Any help to any state with the Proposition 13 type of restriction on raising taxes should require the repeal of those restrictions.

The sad fact is that under conservative tutelage a lot of states squandered substantial "rainy day funds" in unnecessary but politically expedient tax cuts, especially cuts to businesses and high-income individuals.

Any help should require that repayment be made to nonrevocable rainy day funds in lieu of repayment to the federal government, with some protective mechanism on when a "rainy day" can be declared.

50 states, 210 media market, 435 Congressional Districts, 3080 counties, 192,480 precincts

by TarheelDem on Fri Nov 20th, 2009 at 03:08:23 PM EST
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Prop 13 was a constitutional amendment. It would be hard to repeal. But I think making them raise taxes and fight among themselves on how would be sufficient. It would be sufficient in California.
by bento on Fri Nov 20th, 2009 at 03:28:34 PM EST
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The citizens of California have a gun to their head fiscally and they can't figure out that it might be because of Prop 13?  And folks talk about Southern dementia!  What happened to all those wonderful special referenda?

From Earl Warren and Pat Brown to "dah Gubernator".  From the best schools in the nation to - what - no schools?  No healthcare?

NC raised tobacco taxes this year.  North Carolina. Cigarette taxes.  It was weeks of hell and posturing, but it got done.

50 states, 210 media market, 435 Congressional Districts, 3080 counties, 192,480 precincts

by TarheelDem on Fri Nov 20th, 2009 at 05:43:24 PM EST
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Part of the problem in CA is the same as the problem with the Senate re filibusters: a majority can require a larger majority than itself in the future. Hence, 51% of Senators can approve a filibuster requirement that then requires 60%. While that 51% have in a sense reduced their power, if their agenda is obstruction, they have punched above their weight. Similarly, Prop 13 passed with 62%, I believe, of the vote. A healthy margin. But now you have a 67% requirement to pass taxes. I think it should be an accepted principle of democracy that no majority can impose a requirement for a larger majority than itself.
by bento on Sat Nov 21st, 2009 at 03:20:01 AM EST
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Why haven't the Democrats started to talk about the "borrow and squander" Republican Party.  It seems like an accurate depiction of post-Eisenhower Republican government.

50 states, 210 media market, 435 Congressional Districts, 3080 counties, 192,480 precincts
by TarheelDem on Fri Nov 20th, 2009 at 03:10:31 PM EST
The lost pines are beautiful, when there aren't Republicans all over the damned place.
by lacerda on Fri Nov 20th, 2009 at 03:20:25 PM EST
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Beautiful location and wonderful folks living in cabins BooMan.

"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."

by Oui on Fri Nov 20th, 2009 at 04:15:44 PM EST
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I don't think they should get any money, if they run on the evils of federal monies.
by rikyrah on Fri Nov 20th, 2009 at 04:46:02 PM EST
Republican spending? Nah....

Why, its only pocket change

Costs of an SDI system were estimated at $100 billion or more. Opponents used this to try to stop SDI, although this cost would have been a small fraction of the Defense Dept. budget. From 1984 to 1993 a total of $39.7 billion was spent on the program.

Just take it outta petty cash

The Congressional investigation found that Blackwater charges the government $1,222 per day for each private military operative -- more than six times the wage of an equivalent soldier. And still it uncovered instances of overcharging. It reported that an audit in 2005 by the State Department's inspector general found Blackwater was charging separately for "drivers" and "security specialists" who were, in fact, the same people.

Merely a pittance

Total federal outlays will rise 29 percent between fiscal years 2001 and 2005 according to the president's fiscal year 2005 budget released in February. Real discretionary spending increases in fiscal years 2002, 2003, and 2004 are three of the five biggest annual increases in the last 40 years. Large spending increases have been the principal cause of the government's return to massive budget deficits. (emphasis mine)

< /snark >

"I never trust people who don't laugh." Maya Angelou, March 5, 2009

by Indianadem on Fri Nov 20th, 2009 at 07:25:01 PM EST
As far as Republican spending on a more local playground, anything goes as long as it goes to the all-holy private sector..
Because the state halted the implementation of the IBM-led system in January, only about a third of the state's public assistance clients were being served by the new system. But the state was on track to pay as if the program had been completely implemented. In less than three years, IBM had been paid about a quarter of the contract's original $1.16 billion sum.
Rep. Peggy Welch, D-Bloomington, took a stab at what she called "back-of-the-envelope" calculations when the state's answers didn't satisfy her. Welch said she and her legislative assistant, using numbers provided by the state's auditor, calculated the state was paying about $140,000 a day to IBM during the first eight months of this year for services not rendered.


"I never trust people who don't laugh." Maya Angelou, March 5, 2009
by Indianadem on Fri Nov 20th, 2009 at 07:36:06 PM EST
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