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House Health Care Vote on Saturday

by BooMan
Thu Nov 5th, 2009 at 10:16:21 AM EST

It looks like, while there are still some details to work out, the House is going to pass a health care bill on Saturday night that has a public option with negotiated reimbursement rates. They aren't going to have three weeks of debate. They aren't going to let any Democrats stop the process and prevent a vote using procedural obstacles. The people gave the Democrats huge majorities, they endorsed Obama's health care agenda, and the House is going to act accordingly.

Meanwhile, the Senate can't get their shit together, even though the Democrats have a theoretically filibuster-proof 60 members in their caucus. It's time for Rahm Emanuel to clunk some senatorial heads.

Meanwhile, this is funny:

Republicans are learning an unpleasant lesson this morning: The only thing worse than having no health-care reform plan is releasing a bad one, getting thrashed by CBO and making the House Democrats look good in comparison.

Late last night, the Congressional Budget Office released its initial analysis of the health-care reform plan that Republican Minority Leader John Boehner offered as a substitute to the Democratic legislation. CBO begins with the baseline estimate that 17 percent of legal, non-elderly residents won't have health-care insurance in 2010. In 2019, after 10 years of the Republican plan, CBO estimates that ...17 percent of legal, non-elderly residents won't have health-care insurance. The Republican alternative will have helped 3 million people secure coverage, which is barely keeping up with population growth. Compare that to the Democratic bill, which covers 36 million more people and cuts the uninsured population to 4 percent.

But maybe, you say, the Republican bill does a really good job cutting costs. According to CBO, the GOP's alternative will shave $68 billion off the deficit in the next 10 years. The Democrats, CBO says, will slice $104 billion off the deficit.

The Democratic bill, in other words, covers 12 times as many people and saves $36 billion more than the Republican plan.

I think the congressional Republicans would do better to honor their own teabagging rhetoric and tell the American people that it's up to the states to come up with 50 different plans for insuring everyone and cutting costs. Their plan should be that the federal government doesn't do health care, and they want to eliminate Medicare, Medicaid, CHIP, and the veterans' hospital system. They'll take all the cost savings from that and give everyone a huge tax cut. People who don't make enough to pay taxes can go pound sand. If they would just run on that, the teabaggers would stop harassing them.

But, of course, we all saw what the Republicans did when they ran Congress. They ran up the biggest deficits in history, and expanded Medicare. They gave all our money to the pharmaceutical industry and did nothing to regulate the insurance industry and protect the consumer. So, no wonder they have a teabagger problem. They're rhetoric is empty. It's also crazy. That's why the people who want them to live up to their rhetoric come off as crazy. What a mess.



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Meanwhile, the GOP is even less cooperative on climate legislation than they have been on health care.
by BooMan on Thu Nov 5th, 2009 at 11:53:45 AM EST
[QUOTE]t's time for Rahm Emanuel to clunk some senatorial heads. [/QUOTE]

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by MNPundit on Thu Nov 5th, 2009 at 12:16:53 PM EST
Wow that sucked (my response). I meant to add: The next time I hear of Rahm knocking heads for anything but a trigger option will be the first.

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by MNPundit on Thu Nov 5th, 2009 at 12:17:45 PM EST
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that ship has sailed.  We'll see if it returns.
by BooMan on Thu Nov 5th, 2009 at 12:55:38 PM EST
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I think it's time for "somebody" to clunk Rahm Emanuel's head.
by obsessed on Thu Nov 5th, 2009 at 07:15:35 PM EST
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so let us see. we have the house, the senate and the white house. just about every poll shows a clear majority in favor of health reform with a po. yet, the major media sources tend to focus on the goopers as a force. the goopers go up on tv with a 12 hour program touting their health care reform position. the bachman pig calls for and gets a ton of responses to a marchon wwashington and she does it in less than 1 week.
and where the eff are the dems? where the eff is the wh? where the eff are the dem marchers and the rest of the folks who are losing their health care and their homes and their lives?
 what the hell am i missing?????????????????????
by billjpa (billjpa@aol.com) on Thu Nov 5th, 2009 at 01:22:28 PM EST
just got a big boost from AARP and the AMA. via the LAT:

Seniors, doctors groups throw their support behind House healthcare bill

As House Democrats prepare to vote Saturday on a sweeping bill to overhaul the nation's healthcare system, they have picked up an important endorsement today from the 40-million-member AARP, the nation's largest senior citizens group.

The group, which has been pushing for a health overhaul for more than a year, had withheld a formal endorsement of any of the healthcare bills being developed by congressional Democrats.

That endorsement was followed by an announcement at about 10 a.m. Pacific time from the American Medical Assn. in which the nation's largest doctors group voiced its support for the measure.
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The AMA, which represents a quarter of a million physicians, has kept an open mind to the Obama administration's efforts, particularly since the president took the unusual step of addressing the group at its annual meeting in June in Chicago.

The AMA believes the House bill backs goals supported by the majority of its members because doctors will have a choice on whether to participate in the so-called public option. In addition, the AMA has said the rates paid to doctors are going to be better than those they receive from the Medicare health insurance program for the elderly, which is also key to the group's support.

l'm going to view this as a positive for the time being, but at the same time, it seems to indicate, that the status quo is comfortable with the watered down version. imo, that, in itself, may not be a particularly good omen for the people who are going to be left behind.

we shall soon see.

the revolution will not be televised...

by dada on Thu Nov 5th, 2009 at 03:43:49 PM EST


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