what's even worse?  waterboarding is just the beginning of the horrors unleashed under faux legal justification.

monsters.

Find me at Latino Político or The Sanctuary

Now if he endured it for only an additional 182 times, he'd have that true Gitmo experience.

Oh, there you are, Perry. -Phineas -SLB-

Well, there's a modicum of hope for this guy; at least he want through it if only for a few seconds.  Now if we can sign up Russ, Sean, Anne, Dick, Karl, Newt, George the clown etc etc, we can start the education process for these republican stalwarts.  I can dream can't I?

Suppose you scrub your ethical skin until it shines, but inside there is no music, then what? Kabir

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"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."

vhannity'll never do it...he doesn't have the stones.

anyway, how many assholes have to go thru it until they're convinced, as christopher hitchen's wrote in vanity fair  back in aug 2008:

I apply the Abraham Lincoln test for moral casuistry: "If slavery is not wrong, nothing is wrong." Well, then, if waterboarding does not constitute torture, then there is no such thing as torture.

the dream scenario would be for one of these blowhards to be extraordinarily rendered by a group of masked strangers, bound, gagged, transported to a very inhospitable location and given the entire enhanced interrogation procedures for a couple weeks...you know, the belly slaps, wall bangings, sleep depravation, chained to the ceiling, the whole nine yards...then we'd see how they really feel about it.

never happen...but there're more than a few that deserve it.

the revolution will not be televised...

First they deny it's torture, then maybe it is torture, but they're terrorists and we have to do everything we can to save American lives.  They justify everything. It would be more interesting if they made him say something absolutely untrue to make the waterboarding stop.

sorry, this might be OT, but how does this dude pronounce his name?  I ask, coz 'Manko' (long-'o') is Japanese slang for female genitalia.

If that is his name's pronunciation, he probably has his Japanese-fluent audience in stitches just over his name....  

Whadda pussy.....   couldn't handle his water.  Hannity says he can do better ;-)

"The invisible hand of Adam Smith seems to offer an extended middle finger to an awful lot of people"---George Carlin

I wouldn't call Muller exactly an idiotic nutjob, at least not compared with Beck, Hannity, Cheney, Orally et al. He's more of your dime-a-dozen "real man" "common sense" poser who pretends to be a maverick but in fact just parrots the current line of the "tough" media. A petty opportunist, basically, sort of like Notjoe the Notplumber but less damaging. I'm surprised he's known of on the East Coast -- or did you just hear him on the Net?

Anyway, as already said above, even if he had lasted some length of time that would do credit to his testosterone level, the test would be absolutely meaningless. Victims of the US don't have teddy bears to tell the torturers to stop, and have no reason to believe they will stop short of death. What Muller went through is the equivalent of camping in a national park for a week to prove that homeless people are just whiners who should just learn to tough it out.

One of these days one of these posers will "pass" their fake little test and give the pro-torture crowd the excuse they need to continue their lies. Stunts like this should be banned unless they're conducted in a place like Iran or Burma or Colombia or Texas by unknown torturers and no teddy bears or friendly doctors or lawyers or cops standing by. Even the training practice the military uses doesn't even begin to cut it.  

FDR's response to progressive demands: "I agree. Now go out and make me do it."

There was a special about incarceration and torture on Sundance a few years ago. Several of the men who supported torture changed their minds quickly.
One man was even treated medically because his heart couldn't stand the strain of his treatment.
Where is Dick today?

Absolutely it's torture.

I admire Mancow for actually having the guts to be waterboarded. Time for Hannity, Kilmeade, O'Reilly and the others to have the balls to put their money where there mouths are. But I won't hold my breath waiting for that to happen.

Why is it that both parties are so intent on screaming at each other, rather than trying to find solutions to this country's massive problems??

never saw water boarding before..so the new Mancowism "its absolutely torture" Actually, I think this will help a little that water boarding is torture.