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Dan Froomkin Needs a New Job

by BooMan
Thu Jun 18th, 2009 at 04:16:15 PM EST

The Washington Post, now with even less liberal. Here's a thought, maybe the Post's loss can be the New York Times' gain. If not, the Philly Inquirer could use someone a bit better than Rick Santorum and John Yoo.

Dan Froomkin Needs a New Job | 13 comments (13 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Dan Froomkin Needs a New Job (4.00 / 3)

Screw the traditional media. The New York Times is not far behind the Washington Post and it's not worth changing the system from the inside, as it where. Leave them for dead. Froomkin should unleash himself from the shackle of these fake journalists and rotten and corruptec institutions. I would literally trust an usigned twitter post more than I would trust the WaPo. Froomkin shouldn't lend his good name to these rotten institutions.

They hate the truth and they hate real reporting. Complete rags and completely rotten. There is no redeeming value in the WaPo. Just look at the roster of liars the paper supports! Krauthamer? C'mon. No wonder I don't even read the WaPo anymore--even when I'm in D.C. I would rather read the Onion--that's truthier.

by SFHawkguy on Thu Jun 18th, 2009 at 04:46:32 PM EST

Re: Dan Froomkin Needs a New Job (4.00 / 2)

meh, i think that's a little over the top SFHawkguy.

the WaPo op-ed page is indeed a piece of shit, but the news department has done some good work.

John Mccain Called his wife WHAT??

by brendan on Thu Jun 18th, 2009 at 05:28:32 PM EST
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Re: Dan Froomkin Needs a New Job (none / 1)

Like what? I am indeed conflating the op-ed page with the rest of the paper but I guess I can't handle the smell of the rot from the back of the paper to even hold the other parts of the paper in my hand.

I'm sure there are good reporters there as there are at the Times and the other A list traditional media places but it's the editorial direction that is so lacking and has infested not only the op-ed pages but the way the hard news is edited.

I am simply better informed by going to other online sources first. When an editor, like you or Booman, links to a good WaPo article, bring it on. Otherwise I would never go there to be informed.

In fact, the only reason I independently went to WaPo the last few years was to read Froomkin. Except maybe the few times I told myself, "hmm, I wonder how the traditional media is reporting this" and then would go to WaPo and NYTimes and usually would be very disappointed with the reporting.

by SFHawkguy on Thu Jun 18th, 2009 at 06:20:11 PM EST
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Re: Dan Froomkin Needs a New Job (none / 1)

yeah, but I'm wrong about everything.

by BooMan on Thu Jun 18th, 2009 at 06:30:38 PM EST
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Re: Dan Froomkin Needs a New Job (none / 1)

WRONG again Booman! You are indeed occasionally right on the merits. But more importantly you have a good editorial sense and I trust you to sniff out the good stories much better than WaPo. You're a good writer. And you're much more observant about the politics of issues and don't have to play this silly game of trying to be fair and balanced and basically kiss the ass of the Washington establishment. That means you bring the TRUTH much better than WaPo.

It's all relative of course. But at least you're not actively trying to suppress the truth.

by SFHawkguy on Thu Jun 18th, 2009 at 06:40:26 PM EST
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Re: Dan Froomkin Needs a New Job (none / 0)

good to know that I am occasionally right about something.

by BooMan on Thu Jun 18th, 2009 at 08:18:08 PM EST
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Re: Dan Froomkin Needs a New Job (none / 0)

I should rephrase that: you are often correct on the merits.

And you're right enough times to really piss me off when you're not.

by SFHawkguy on Thu Jun 18th, 2009 at 09:52:01 PM EST
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SFHG, you're wrong (none / 0)

as much as i agree with you on so many topics, when you write:

editorial direction that is so lacking and has infested not only the op-ed pages but the way the hard news is edited.

...I have to say you're wrong. One of the reasons the o-ed page at the post is so frwquently out of step with the hard news is that the two departments are entirely separate.

and yes there are some real shitty reporters at both papers. but it's simply not true that the op-ed pages have "infested" the news department.

OTOH< i agree that I get most of my news online. My first visits these days are blogs: newspapers don't are second and third tier for me these days.

John Mccain Called his wife WHAT??

by brendan on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 11:15:42 AM EST
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How about McClatchey (none / 1)

they seem to be the only American newspaper interested in making money.

alternatively maybe one of the Japanese English language publications will pick them up. The Japanese have a history of recognizing quality that Americans so casually toss away.

by AliceDem on Thu Jun 18th, 2009 at 04:55:04 PM EST

Re: How about McClatchey (none / 1)

Greenwald's on it.

by BooMan on Thu Jun 18th, 2009 at 05:13:13 PM EST
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Re: Dan Froomkin Needs a New Job (none / 1)

Politico should offer him a spot. Their business model revolves around others linking to them. Froomkin's one of the most linked-to columnists around and he's quite generous linking to others. He'd be a good fit there and probably get more TV appearances and such as well.

by RandyH on Thu Jun 18th, 2009 at 05:31:11 PM EST

Re: Dan Froomkin Needs a New Job (none / 0)

...or he becomes the Alan Colmes of the Obama era.

More at Zandar vs. The Stupid.

by Zandar1 on Thu Jun 18th, 2009 at 06:39:59 PM EST
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Re: Dan Froomkin Needs a New Job (none / 0)

I hope huffpost hires him. They have been looking for an investigative reporter.

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