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Serious Question

by BooMan
Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 04:15:47 PM EST

Who are the Republicans going to nominate to run for president in 2012? I'm thinking the list just got shorter by one.



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by ask on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 04:24:50 PM EST
try again.
by BooMan on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 04:26:36 PM EST
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Thanks.
by ask on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 04:27:41 PM EST
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pretty odd, iddnit?
by BooMan on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 04:31:38 PM EST
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Sure is, but then there is this bizarre notion that IOKIYAR.
by ask on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 05:17:50 PM EST
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WTH?  The governor of a state in the midst of an economic crisis just up and leaves - without a security detail - to do some writing?  And no one can get ahold of him?  It's just unbelievable - if someone put it into a movie, I'd laugh them off the screen for being so unbelievable.

Sadly, I laughed at this juxtaposition:

First lady Jenny Sanford told The Associated Press earlier Monday her husband has been gone for several days and she did not know where.

She said she was not concerned.

by nonynony on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 04:41:26 PM EST
they're self-destructing at a rapidly increasing pace. first jindahl, then ensign, now sanford...pickin's are getting a bit slim over in the gop corral...palin by default...slaughter at the polls ensues.

the revolution will not be televised...
by dada on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 04:48:11 PM EST
Apparently it took some time for anybody to notice.

Oh, there you are, Perry. -Phineas -SLB-
by boran2 (blogistan@yahoo.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 04:51:53 PM EST
Sarah Palin will be the  nominee.

nalbar

by nalbar (nalbarsatgmaildotcom) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 04:52:43 PM EST
I say MN gov Pawlenty will be the nominee.

Being from Minnesota automatically confers some "moderate" cred to the guy--good for the general election.

Oops! But being perceived as "moderate" (which he ain't in any case) is the kiss of death in the primaries.

Such a conundrum for the goppers.

My conundrum is what 3rd party I'll support if Obama fails to take a stand in a really big way on the public healthcare option.

I'm 58 and been going the lesser of two evils route since '68--everytime against my better judgment.

by sleepy (imcotton1991@yahoo.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 05:17:13 PM EST
Huckabee. Or did he do something unforgettable, too. I can't keep track anymore.

Anyway, I can't help feeling a little empathy for Sanford. He seems to be seriously going off the deep end.

FDR's response to progressive demands: "I agree. Now go out and make me do it."

by DaveW on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 05:18:48 PM EST
Huckabee doesn't stand a chance in the general.

Unless . . . . . he parlays his heretofore faux populism into some real populism along the lines of universal healthcare.

Maybe Pawlenty-Huckabee could be the ticket for at least a respectable showing in the general of 40%.

by sleepy (imcotton1991@yahoo.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 05:22:04 PM EST
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The election will be about Obama, not the Rep nominee. If Obama comes through (as I think he will), nobody will have a chance against him. If not, everybody will, including Huckabee.

FDR's response to progressive demands: "I agree. Now go out and make me do it."
by DaveW on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 05:25:05 PM EST
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I think the threshold for failure is pretty low.

I think the sort of failure necessary to catapult a loon like Huckabee into office would require an economic situation of high unemployment and high inflation.  In other words, things get worse, not necessarily a whole lot better.

So, I think that not much is required of Obama to "come through", at least from a re-election perspective.

A few lefties like me will vote no in the absence of a "put it all out there" push for a public health option, but we'll be in the usual tiny minority.

by sleepy (imcotton1991@yahoo.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 06:07:02 PM EST
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Loons like Reagan and Bush got elected without any economic disasters going on. Why should Huckabee be any different?

FDR's response to progressive demands: "I agree. Now go out and make me do it."
by DaveW on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 07:32:44 PM EST
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Bush (and I'm assuming you mean the recent loon, not his father) got into power for a variety of reasons that mostly had to do with Clinton.  The election was so very close for two reasons - one was that Clinton was unable to keep his pants on for 8 years and giant scandals are always good for flipping the party in power.  And Gore was convinced he had to distance himself from Clinton - and his successes - because of the taint of scandal.  

More importantly, after 8 years of having a so-called liberal president in the office, liberals were kind of fed up with how much power the conservatives were able to exercise - with Clinton mostly cheering them on.  So they got frustrated and didn't bother voting, or voted for a protest candidate.  The "no difference between the two parties" meme was a very effective one for suppressing liberal votes in 2000.  (2004 is an odd case because the country had been whipped into a fear frenzy and the Republicans knew how to play that).

I wasn't really politically aware when Reagan was elected, but my read on the 1980 election is that it wasn't that people wanted Ronald Reagan, but that they didn't want Jimmy Carter anymore.  Obama could fall into that trap, but I think it's more likely he'll turn out like Clinton than Carter.  He seems to have internalized the lessons of "don't do what Carter did" but doesn't seem to have quite grasped the "don't do what Clinton did" lessons either (except, hopefully, the whole "cheating on his wife" thing).

by nonynony on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 10:26:10 PM EST
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Just goes to show you, loons are capable of elective office in the US any old time.  You're probably right, though I think Huckabee's religiosity puts him at a disadvantage in the loon sweepstakes.
by sleepy (imcotton1991@yahoo.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 11:22:22 PM EST
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The stress of having the SC legislature disagree with him over the stimulus sent him over the edge? Another one bites the dust!

Michaela
by michaelmt (MrMichael_t@yahoo.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 05:25:21 PM EST
Palin/Paul
"Uniting what's left of the GOP"

The Underground Railroad
by Oscar In Louisville on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 05:31:02 PM EST


the revolution will not be televised...
by dada on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 05:39:13 PM EST
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Golden showers for every American...

The Underground Railroad
by Oscar In Louisville on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 05:46:07 PM EST
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"Golden showers for every American... "

First brought to us by St. Ronnie and his trickle-down economic policies.

"I never trust people who don't laugh." Maya Angelou, March 5, 2009

by Indianadem on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 05:51:29 PM EST
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He sounds like he's having a nervous breakdown of some sort.  If I were the Lt. Guv I'd quietly see if his family could convince him to step down.

A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. Franklin D. Roosevelt
by Steven D on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 05:50:37 PM EST
Yes, hard to say what's up with the guy.  It's certainly unusual to say the least.  Who knows, maybe he's into Zen.
by sleepy (imcotton1991@yahoo.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 06:09:06 PM EST
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I should add, all snark aside, that I hope he's ok.
by sleepy (imcotton1991@yahoo.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 06:10:54 PM EST
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I do too, but erratic behavior is often a sign of some sort of mental disorder manifesting itself.

A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. Franklin D. Roosevelt
by Steven D on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 08:24:56 PM EST
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What's up with the quote from the "Office on Aging?"  Is that the media trying to hint about something that may be an open secret in SC Politics?  Or is that just the only office the reporter could reach on a Sunday night?  Very strange situation all around.
by The Electric Messiah on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 08:59:36 PM EST
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Maybe someone is after his precious bodily fluids...

General Jack D. Ripper: Mandrake, do you recall what Clemenceau once said about war?
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: No, I don't think I do, sir, no.
General Jack D. Ripper: He said war was too important to be left to the generals. When he said that, 50 years ago, he might have been right. But today, war is too important to be left to politicians. They have neither the time, the training, nor the inclination for strategic thought. I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.



"I never trust people who don't laugh." Maya Angelou, March 5, 2009
by Indianadem on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 10:59:35 PM EST
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It won't be Palin.

Since 1960, the following VP nominees of the losing ticket ran for President:  Lodge, Muskie, Shriver, Dole, Mondale, Quayle, Lieberman, and Edwards.  Only Mondale won the nomination (Dole's turn came only after he had served another 20 years in the Senate), and Mondale had not only been a VP candidate, but had actually served as VP.   Palin was a liability to the ticket in 2008; I don't see any way Palin becomes the Republican nominee in 2012.

I think it will be Petraeus.

by JLG on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 06:44:00 PM EST
I'm betting Petraeus is smart enough to wait until he doesn't have to face Obama.

But I've been wrong before about these things.

A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. Franklin D. Roosevelt

by Steven D on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 08:26:15 PM EST
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I hope Sanford's found with an underaged illegal named Pedro.

Let them nominate Caribou Barbie.

by rikyrah on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 09:18:48 PM EST
OK, I'm just talking out my ass here (so what else is new?)  But I'd bet on Huckabee.  The repubs have a sense of hierarchy.  The next nominee is often the guy who came in 2nd the last time (Ford/Reagan-->Reagan, Reagan/Bush-->Bush, Bush/Dole-->Dole, Bush/McCain-->McCain).  Huck was 2nd last time, so he'll be the front runner this time.  My bet is that he tones down his "populism" to be more acceptable to the corporate interests.  And we should underestimate him.  He is very personable.  Sure, he's a right-wing nut, but that doesn't disqualify him in the eyes of most of the country.  
by rae on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 10:27:11 PM EST
from freeperville:

palin and bachmann 2012. they are the voices speaking with authority and conviction.

sarah palin / liz cheney 2012.

petraeus /palin or palin/petraeus -either is fine with me. slight preference for petraeus at the top of the ticket. then palin for president 8 years later.

palin/voigt 2012!

palin- ingraham 2012

two ladies who could leave a mark on america. call it the brand of freedom. (mark levin chief of staff)

if we've come to a point where men will not stand for our freedom, then let it be a woman. if a man won't pick up the sword and a woman will, let her lead, i don't have a problem. courage and freedom come packaged together. you can't have one without the other.

who knows, maybe 2012 will be Ladies Night. i'm buying.

alan keyes / sarah palin 2012. not necessarily in that order.

sanford and palin 2012.



i'm glad you asked
by aarrgghh on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 11:54:07 PM EST
IFFF Sanford was having a ' breakdown', then I don't think his wife would be reacting the way that she did. She's a proper White Southern political wife, who basically just shived her husband.

So, unless she's a cold mofo, I'm not thinking `breakdown'.

I'm thinking an underaged illegal named Pedro

or Shaniqua (any age will do).

Take your pick.

by rikyrah on Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 at 12:07:14 AM EST


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