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A Chat With the President

by BooMan
Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 11:45:56 PM EST

I was invited by the White House to participate in a conference call for bloggers with the President of the United States. The call took place beginning at 5:30 this evening. I was going to do a long piece on what transpired, but that is no longer necessary. Joan McCarter wrote up an excellent synopsis for Daily Kos and John Amato recorded the call and uploaded it to Crooks & Liars. There is also a write-up from David Dayen. Everything you need to know about this call can be learned through those sources.

I think all the bloggers who were invited on the call probably have some differences with the Obama administration, but we all are united in wanting to help him pass what they are calling a 'robust public option' as part of the health care plan. This created an interesting dynamic. The call was on-the-record, so behind the scenes strategizing wasn't an option. After Obama spent about twenty-five minutes talking to us and answering questions, he turned the call over to his political strategist David Axelrod and the Director of the White House Office of Health Reform, Nancy Ann DeParle.

There were a couple of substantive questions on health care policy, but most bloggers wanted to get some ideas on the administration's needs, strategy, and bottom line. Yet, because the call was on-the-record, neither Obama nor Axelrod was going to say anything much different that what they would say to Jake Tapper or David Gregory. They certainly weren't going to say anything that might alienate powerful chairmen like Max Baucus or Kent Conrad.

The first question came from John Amato who wanted to know if Obama would force Congress to stay in session if they couldn't complete their work before the August recess. Obama didn't say yes or no. Instead, he said that he had contacted the key chairpeople the day after he was elected to let them know that health care reform was going to be his number one priority, and that there was therefore no excuse for delay.

Jonathan Singer followed with a question on the possible use of the budget reconciliation process (which only requires 50 votes) if the Senate can't pass a health care bill before October. Obama danced around a little but essentially said that he would use reconciliation in that scenario because doing nothing is not an option.

Joan McCarter wanted to know if the administration was considering a co-op alternative to the public option that has been espoused as a compromise by Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad. Obama explained that co-ops don't have the scale or resources to compete with corporate insurers, but that he had advised his team to take a careful look anyway.

In the end, Obama made an observation that I have made many times before. The House is going to introduce several different bills from different committees (Health & Education, Energy & Commerce, and Way & Means) and so is the Senate (HELP & Finance). All of those bills will eventually be combined into one, so it doesn't matter tremendously if one of them lacks the public option. The whole thing is going to go down after the House and Senate have each passed their bills, when those bills have to be reconciled in a Conference Committee. It is the Conference Committee that will produce the final product. What Obama wants right now is for the House and Senate to each pass a single bill before they go into the August recess. That will be the completion of the first step.

When they come back in September, they will have the vote on the reconciled bill. If the Dems can get 60 votes in the Senate, then Obama will sign it, and it will become law. If the Dems can't get 60 votes in the Senate by October 15th, then they will revert to the budget reconciliation process that only requires fifty votes. The latter process is inferior for a variety or reasons that I will not go into right now, but it can get the job done if it becomes necessary.

The main things that Obama, Axelrod, and DeParle want from the bloggers are to put a human face on health care fiasco in this country, to explain why the status quo is unsustainable, to demonstrate why the system works for the insurance and pharmaceutical industries but not for the average Joe or the federal budget, to combat the arguments of the Right, and to amplify the evidence of obstructionism coming from people like Bill Kristol and Senator Jim DeMint of South Carolina.

It's not anything different from what we were doing already.

But they also want you, the reader, to get involved and call your representatives. Call them and tell them all the things I listed above.



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I spent a good part of Sunday (2-8) working with two three-hour shifts of 2-3 people each, making phone calls to get declarations of public support for the President's health care initiative.  We called 800 people, most of whom were not at home (or who were screening calls), but we scrabbled together nearly 100 supporters, some of whom were incredibly pleased to have their support solicited.  

There are many ways to become involved - Organizing for America, MoveOn, Democracy for America, to name a few.  We need to advocate against the propaganda and lies being put out by groups like Patients First, which are essentially shills for the insurance and pharmaceutical industries.  Get involved.  We may be required to shout louder and longer than the other side (the side that wants to stick with the status quo), but if that's what it takes, that's what it takes.  None of us can afford to take a back seat in this fight.

by Mum on Tue Jul 21st, 2009 at 03:57:12 AM EST
describe Obama's plan to the people you talked to? What is the public option? How will it work? Etc.

I went to an OFA organizing meeting and was deeply disappointed that even the meeting organizers did not know what Obama really wanted in a plan. 80% of the attendees were for single payer and we were told we would serve the purpose of pushing the debate enough leftward for Obama to get his "public plan."

What was it? To be determined, we were told. But then we were asked to make calls about it. About what, we asked, and got no answers.

Have you been given answers yet?

Thanx much!

by jawbone on Tue Jul 21st, 2009 at 12:46:21 PM EST
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plan has become a bait-and-switch, with the actual plan coming out of Congress looking nothing like what people thought they were being promised during the campaign and early going.

Longish piece, but filled with need to know information.

by jawbone on Tue Jul 21st, 2009 at 12:50:50 PM EST
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Did anyone bring up Bill "William the Bloody" Kristol .. and how he knew that passage of health care in 1993(or was it 1994?) would doom the Republicans to a long time in the wilderness ... and what else could be done to get the Blue Dogs on board?  And did anyone asked him who is going to go on the talking head shows to counter the lies of the TradMed? .. because bloggers won't be enough .. lastly ... did anyone ask him what he now thinks of bipartisanship? .. given comments like Sen. DeMented of South Carolina .. and that Republicans are only interested in trying to sink his Presidency
by Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle on Tue Jul 21st, 2009 at 12:33:31 AM EST
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.

I suggest listening in at Crooks & Liars.

by BooMan on Tue Jul 21st, 2009 at 12:48:55 AM EST
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So basically they said to do the things the bloggers and netroots are already doing, but now the WH will take credit for it. Brilliant!
by peacearena on Tue Jul 21st, 2009 at 01:18:41 AM EST
We should not have a problem with the WH agreeing to doing the things that the bloggers and netroots are doing.  Isn't that what our goal is as bloggers.
by Hot2na on Tue Jul 21st, 2009 at 11:08:52 AM EST
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I think blogger concern with what Obama says he wants is misplaced. He's the president of all the people. He can't be the open instigator of the partisan struggle. It's up to the rest of us, bloggers included, to take the lead doing what Obama can't. The problem with the health care plan is not the GOP -- they're doing what Republicans do. The problem is the "moderate" congressional Dems. Obama can't go all-out to make things untenable for them. We can.

The blogs developed an effective tool in Act Blue as a source of funds and volunteers. Our most powerful strategy now is to set up funding and organization to develop primary opponents and campaigns against any Dem senator who fails to vote for cloture. The Republicans have made their agenda clear: use the health issue to "break Obama". Congress has had its time for discussion and amendments. Now we're down to a simple choice for Democratic senators: you're with us or you're part of the push to break Obama and prevent any change in our health care system. The blogs, in coalition with allied groups that got many new Dem senators elected, are in position to force Blue Dogs to jump one way or the other, and to assure that the wrong jump means assured electoral misery. It's the least we can do.

FDR's response to progressive demands: "I agree. Now go out and make me do it."

by DaveW on Tue Jul 21st, 2009 at 11:47:15 AM EST
by Alice on Tue Jul 21st, 2009 at 12:24:33 PM EST


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