Like it wasn't already hurting my BRAIN enough trying to figure all of this before. Now we have ooooh, clusters of aspen roots turning together! That shit means something :o)

Sorry to sound sarcastic, but man! It must be code cuz who writes like that?

Green Grass and High Tides Forever

That is one creepy letter.  Unctuous, yet below the surface ominous.  His new name should be "Wormtongue."

Biological threats this fall might be the potential bird flu epidemic - congress took action on this surprisingly quickly and quietly this week, although I suspect it may be too little too late.  But it will need to be spun in a positive manner if the shit hits the fan: "See, we did what we could; no more could be done..."

Ecological collapse is already happening. Your resentment of the word doesn't change the fact that it is occurring.

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Speculation -- Karl Rove will change his statement, it has been agreed and coordinated within the network. Karl Rove to take the fall to protect the VP?

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It's like a letter from one cultist to another.

Yeah, it really is interesting to figure that she's their girl at the NYT.  Aren't journalists supposed to be free from such influences.  But of course, she's probably following the lead of Cokie Roberts.

An untypical Negro

IBM Selectrics didn't have that font back in 1972.

Have you read the rest of the letters on the NYT site (pdf file) that cover the haggling back and forth between the lawyers about whether Libby's original waiver had been coerced or not?

It's interesting that Cooper an Miller had the same lawyer and that apparently Cooper felt he had been released via that waiver (or was it Libby and not Rove who actually called Cooper the morning of his testimony?).

Out West, where you vacation, the aspens will already be turning. They turn in clusters, because their roots connect them.

I too was curious about that line.  I wonder if this is a message that 'the group' is turning, group meaning, as in they all turn at once, in a new direction...maybe anti Bush (hopeful thinking) new strategy or?????.
Could have many meanings, beyond that I suspect.

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I really enjoyed reading this thread on dKos. It reminded me of Alternative Reality Games (ARG's) I've played. The language is so strange it must be conveying code word allusions.

The interpretation I favor is: Miller went into jail because she was afraid she was about to have a "fatal accident" because she knows too much. Libby is assuring her that she is a member of the Grove and it's safe to come out now and resume her work. It may also reference the meeting between Rove and Novak and suggest that they all have their cover stories worked out now and Fitzgerald's grand jury won't do any of them any harm -- long term. Afterall, their buddy George will simply pardon them all if it goes that far.

If nothing else, this letter gives us a peek inside of the romantic delusions these people have about themselves -- the Neocon Conspiracy is like a Grove of Aspens with hidden roots... they are all part of the same organism... Creepy!

Here's another thought on the Aspen thing in letter, it made me think of Ivanwald,"The Cedars" which I researched in relation to the Jeff Gannon issue.

THE CEDARS:" THE HOUSE
ON 24th STREET - LAYING THE
FOUNDATION FOR A NEW HOLY
WAR AGAINST THE POOR OF THE EARTH
by: S.R. Shearer
June 30, 2003

(here's a portion of the article)
There is a house just outside Washington D. C. called the Cedars; it is located across the Potomac River from Georgetown on 24th Street North in Arlington, and it is emblematic of everything that is WRONG with American Christianity. The mansion is named for the cedar trees that surround it. It is owned by a secretive organization called the International Christian Leadership Council (ICL), known today as the Fellowship Foundation. Lisa Getter of the Los Angeles Times reports that -

"... the mansion has been a private hideaway for world leaders, members of Congress, (etc.) ... Located on a quiet residential street, the $4.4-million estate called CEDARS sits at the highest point of the Potomac River, with spectacular views of Washington beyond the pool and tennis courts. It is owned by the Fellowship, a nonpartisan Christian group that sponsors the NATIONAL PRAYER BREAKFAST."

Laura Jakes Jordan, in an article that appeared recently in the Arizona Sun, estimated from IRS records that the National Prayer Breakfast (which is held on the first Thursday in February of every year) costs almost $1 million to put on. Getter elaborates:

"The embossed invitation (to the prayer breakfast) comes from 'members of the Congress of the United States of America'. It asks guests to join the president, vice president 'and other national leaders in the executive, judicial and legislative branches of our government' for a morning of prayer. Presidential seals decorate nearly everything at the event, from the podium, to the registration desk, to the official program. It's not surprising that many think it's an official government event."

Now stop for a moment and think about this; that's big, that's really big: a "prayer breakfast" that has the "political clout" to compel the attendance of the most powerful politicos of the country (including EVERY president and vice president since the Eisenhower administration), many of whom don't have a "religious bone" in their bodies. That's "CLOUT."
(please go here and read the whole article if you haven't read this before:
http://www.antipasministries.com/html/file0000057.htm

Also, I seem to recall something about an 'Aspenwald' either group or club or enclave, but my google search did not reveal anything at this time but seems like I read something about it in the past year when I was doing a lot of Gannon research..My recollection is that it was a group similar to the "Ivanwald" group and seemed to be located in Ca.

I did find this  interesting article here, seems there was a Lloyd Aspenwald,  "of  Jekyll Island Club Hotel was founded in 1886 as a hunting retreat by some of the richest men in America. William K. Vanderbilt, J.P. Morgan, William Rockefeller, Joseph Pulitzer and approximately 50 of their friends chose Jekyll because of its natural beauty and abundant wildlife." experpted out of the following article:

Though the members spent a majority of their time at Jekyll escaping all of their responsibilities, they also used the retreat to take a vested interest in their own -- and the country's -- finances. In 1907, J.P. Morgan, Senator Nelson Aldrich and five other banking magnates met at the clubhouse to plan a centralized banking structure for the country. The Federal Reserve Bank was born at that meeting.
Article here

Phsewwww, ok, that's my 'conspiracy' contribution for the day and that's the longest comment I ever posted.

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You can go here and run any "odd-sounding" phrases through an anagram engine to see if there's a hidden message in that phrase.

"Out West" gives "Two Tues" for example, which fits in with the "October surprise" idea floated over at Kos - something might happen in two weeks from the letter's date.  Of course, it also rearranges to "Wet to us" and "We stout"...

The other really odd phrase is "Come back to work - and life."  This rearranges into about a brazillion possibilities, but the engine I've linked can weed them down by allowing you to specify words that must appear in the anagram.  So you can tell it that "October" or "Karl" or whatever must appear in the anagram.  If the remaining words don't make sense, you can go back and change the required word to something like "war" and try again.

It's still a big job, so I'm throwing this out there in case anyone else also feels like playing junior spy this afternoon.

Tinfoil hattily yours, KP

Ecological collapse is already happening. Your resentment of the word doesn't change the fact that it is occurring.

Judith Miller is a traitor three times:  To the public, to the press she claims to work for, and the government of laws.  

More prosaically:  This one letter alone reveals her as an operative, not a reporter.  

Whatever her part is, she is in the Plame Affair up to the eyebrows.  

Thanks, Spiderleaf, for bringing this over to the pond.  

and yes, "the aspens" - since when did Judy become a naturalist?

Get on this Oui!

To thine own self be true. W.S.

This may explain the Biological threats part:

Bush: Military may have to help in pandemic
President wants Congress to discuss how to use armed forces

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush said Tuesday that the possibility of an avian flu pandemic is among the reasons he wants Congress to give him the power to use the nation's military in law enforcement roles in the United States. Read the rest

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I suggest that the reason Libby waived confidentiality for Miller was that the Bush administration is getting desperate. Miller was one of their most effective shills, writing all about the ficticious WMDs that Saddam was supposedly acquiring. I suggest that they leaned on Libby to waive his confidentiality so that Miller could go back to shilling for them and thus turn the tide of public opinion. And maybe hype up Iran as a war target.

Conservatism is Dead!

Does anyone really believe that Libby did not think this letter would be leaked? Come on! Who's the real intended recipient of this letter? What's the real message?

Hello?!!

media girl

I think the Kos code discussion is a stretch, but fun to contemplate.

Really, I think the whole thing is Judy Miller's hope that she could go to jail and things would blow over before she had to testify.  Didn't work out that way.  I'm sure the book will come out in 2 years, but I'll wait for the Movie of the Week, which I will also ignore.

The most plausible explanation I have heard is that Libby knows he's toast, so he is just telling her to let it go becuase her staying mum won't help anymore anyway.  If that's true, then perhaps Libby does have a sympathetic bone somewhere in his body.  

Probably a metatarsal.

mcolley
I'm not liberal, I'm just paying attention

I'm concerned about Scooter's siggy.  What's with the eighteenth century penmanship?  And the pen...is that a friggin quill he's using?

And his first "o" looks like an "r".  Scroter?  I hesitate to ask.

Anyone here a handwriting expert?

I actually thought it sounded like he was threatening her. i.e "You say one word to Fitz that doesn't fit our story and you're dead."

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